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The new Metallica?

Started by greencard, May 06, 2006, 05:48 PM

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fireflyry

Quote from: ben on May 07, 2006, 02:07 PM
Why care about these money-hungry pricks when there are much better bands out there, espeacially if you're looking for metal.

Agreed to an extent when considering the last ten years but I guess it's a respect thing.

If it was'nt for Metallica and Sepultura who knows what kind if shit I would be listening too now?Not only that but a lot of the "better" bands you listen to would list Metallica as a direct influence.

I'm also constantly baffled by the "they made it hence they are money hungry sell outs".To me that's BS as it's their early musical success that got them to where they are now.You don't sell 90 million albums without releasing some great music and nobody was ever forced to buy a Metallica album.

 
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ben

It is fine for a band to reap the rewards because their albums are very good and sell a shitload.

but metallica has proven they are greedy bastards in the past 10 years with all their lawsuits against P2P programs and other instances.

fireflyry

Yeah but that was Lars, don't think the whole band was totally for that or thought it would blow up like it did.I agree that was a pretty stupid move in terms of their relations with fans but at the same time I admire anyone who stands up for what they think is wrong even if I disagree with their opinion.

It's not only Metallica who lose out but the smaller bands that take such profit loses hard due to P2P software.

I don't think it was motivated by money either.Do you really think that has had any lasting effects on them making money?It was a stance on intellectual property and the right for it not to be stolen more than anything else which I partly agree with.On a tangent I noticed on the news tonight they plan to increase movie prices due to a profit lose of 6.1 billion dollars due to piracy last year.

Different medium but similar effects to the consumer.
 
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ben

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It doesn't affect Metallica at all.  That's what makes their opinion on it that much lamer.  It's like they're scrounging for anything that might subtract a fraction of their money away.  I know Lars is the main culprit, though. 

fireflyry

All I remember is those great Joe cartoons.Man they were the shit:

"Beer good!!Napster bad!!!"

lol

To be honest Lars strikes me as the type of guy who would have done it just for an excuse to whine about something.He seems to have a pretty catty and quick fire temper.
 
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greencard

Somebody mentioned recording. I think that's one key element. They can't get too polished sounding; too much pro-tools and what not. They should just go and play and not do any 'cut and paste' tracks.

And yeah Lars snare sounded like crap on S.A. They really need to fix that!

I've liked Rob Trujillo since he was in Sucidal Tendencies ands it'd be interesteing to see how he could contribute to Mets sound. Some slap bass perhaps?  :P Prob not if they're going back to an old sound.


I think 'old' sound would be anything from "Justice" and before. More 'metal' sounding, less "rawk" sounding. The rhythm guitar especially. And Kirk needs to go back to his old solo style - 80's era.

Lyrically and vocally there's lots that could be done like addressing the war in Iraq, and other social commentary rather then personal shit.


Wait and see.


Necrocetaceanbeastiality


law

Quote from: greencard on May 07, 2006, 05:01 PM
Somebody mentioned recording. I think that's one key element. They can't get too polished sounding; too much pro-tools and what not. They should just go and play and not do any 'cut and paste' tracks.

And yeah Lars snare sounded like crap on S.A. They really need to fix that!

I've liked Rob Trujillo since he was in Sucidal Tendencies ands it'd be interesteing to see how he could contribute to Mets sound. Some slap bass perhaps?  :P Prob not if they're going back to an old sound.


I think 'old' sound would be anything from "Justice" and before. More 'metal' sounding, less "rawk" sounding. The rhythm guitar especially. And Kirk needs to go back to his old solo style - 80's era.

Lyrically and vocally there's lots that could be done like addressing the war in Iraq, and other social commentary rather then personal shit.


Wait and see.



yeah that'd make sense, re make an album they've already done, sheesh


Necrocetaceanbeastiality

Quote from: black coffee on May 07, 2006, 05:57 PM
Quote from: Frankz0r on May 06, 2006, 09:14 PM


old and washed up.



Don't forget sellouts!

How anyone can still like this band is beyond me.

Assassin

Hey that's mean! Any band that gets me headbanging around my room like a total pratt is good in my book, and Metallica certainly does that!

Necrocetaceanbeastiality

Mean but true.

So I ask you this: HOW CAN YOU LIKE THIS BAND?! Especially after they fucked Napster in the ass. Then put out a shitty album.

Azwethinkweiz

Nothing wrong with liking the old albums.

Necrocetaceanbeastiality

I can MAYBE see liking stuff from like, the Kill 'em all era, but that's it.

Haha, my mom made me listen to that album a few days ago and I was reading the lyrics. That shit's dumb.

a-freak-speaks

Sellout because of the Napster thing? Damn, i wish you could realize what kind of crap your letting out. That had nothing at all to do with Metallica.

Im not really listening to Metallica that much, but with Rick Rubin, and with the sound they had on St*Anger, it can only be a awsome record.

Necrocetaceanbeastiality

Will you shut up? I won't listen to an opinion that isn't based on anything. Have you even listened to old Metallica? St. Anger or whatever sounded like everything else on the market aat the time. You think that wasn't deliberate? You thing the AREN'T money grubbing fucks that should just be put down?

law

No. I want them to do another record. best metal band ever, they rip it up like no other.

Assassin

Hell yeah, law knows what he's talking about.

law

aha, thanks.

It just goes on my experience from seeing them. I've seem them a lot of times, and the first few gigs... god damn, kick up the ass or what... Hetfield owns you all. Now I aren't as fussed as metallica as I used to be as I've seen them loads and have their records engrained into me from listening over a long period of time.

Too damn good, damn them, DAMN THEM lol

Fireal1222

Quote from: greencard on May 06, 2006, 05:48 PM
So I just read that Rick Rubin will be producing the new Metallica album which kind of makes me curious what it will sound like and Lars saying it's a return to 'old Metallica'.

Who knows tho....I wait to read reviews and probably listen to it before I think about buying it.

St. Anger was crap, and I sure as hell didn't buy it!

Anyone else curious about  new Metallica or they just old and washed up?


listen. metallica have always sucked in my mind


but theres no way these old dudes can rock hard anymore, .. and even if they go back to there routes its just gonna sound rehashed and dumb


metallica suck

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