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The new Metallica?

Started by greencard, May 06, 2006, 05:48 PM

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greencard

So I just read that Rick Rubin will be producing the new Metallica album which kind of makes me curious what it will sound like and Lars saying it's a return to 'old Metallica'.

Who knows tho....I wait to read reviews and probably listen to it before I think about buying it.

St. Anger was crap, and I sure as hell didn't buy it!

Anyone else curious about  new Metallica or they just old and washed up?

Assassin

St. Anger was the first Metallica album I bought, and I don't think it's that bad actually! Their older stuff is infinitely better though. I'm definitely curious about the new album, Metallica are definitely not washed up. Master Of Puppets, ...And Justice For All and the Black album are still absolute classics!

law

Best metal band ever, interested to see how the new stuff turns out. I hope Rick gives em a kick in the balls for stanger.

one weak

most def. washed up. i highly doubt they will ever return to old metallica.

Frankz0r


fireflyry

Not the best ten years for Metallica but I would'nt put it past them to put out a killer album although I'm not holding my breath.

I also highly rate Robert Trujillo as a kick arse bassist (if you hav't heard of Infectious Grooves check em out) and if he is allowed the freedom to contribute to the song writing process unlike ST Anger it should make for an interesting release.

Just pray Lars buys a new snare...please...

 
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DeftonesATF27

I hate when bands wanna return to their old style, thats their problem, never wanting to just be completley into now, 2006. They've made some sorry mistakes throughout their career but i grew up on their first 5 records so of course i would check their new shit out if it rocks. it probably wont though.

ToneDef

Quote from: one weak on May 06, 2006, 06:28 PM
most def. washed up. i highly doubt they will ever return to old metallica.

Word.

No band ever goes back to their old sound. Ever. A bands sound is as much to do with the production as it is with the instrumentation. Sure they could come up with all these classic Metallica riffs, but it would still be made in some high quality studio by todays production standards.

If they really wanna 'take it back to the old skool' then they shud lug their equipment down themselves to some shitty old studio and just record an album live whilst blind drunk.

That'll never happen though. Metallica will always remain a joke. Like a dog with 2 legs and one eye that just refuses to die and limps on, destroying every shred of dignity it once had and who will probably die in a pile of his own shit.

Gaz

Pah, St Anger was the biggest load of shit ive ever heard, they may aswell retire now before they shit on their career even more.

they will never top the Master of Puppets album, never.

Assassin

Quote from: ToneDef on May 07, 2006, 12:22 AMThat'll never happen though. Metallica will always remain a joke. Like a dog with 2 legs and one eye that just refuses to die and limps on, destroying every shred of dignity it once had and who will probably die in a pile of his own shit.

That's way too harsh man!

ToneDef

Quote from: Assassin on May 07, 2006, 12:26 AM
Quote from: ToneDef on May 07, 2006, 12:22 AMThat'll never happen though. Metallica will always remain a joke. Like a dog with 2 legs and one eye that just refuses to die and limps on, destroying every shred of dignity it once had and who will probably die in a pile of his own shit.

That's way too harsh man!

Nah man. Don't get me wrong, I respect the band they once were. But do I respect them now? No fucking way.

For this album to save them it has gotta be some tremendous shit. It's gotta overcome the joke that was St Anger as well as stamp some authority on the current scene. I just cant see that happening. Metallica just aren't Metallica anymore.

You may like St Anger, and that's up to you. Around 100% of the rest of the worlds population don't though.

Assassin

Quote from: ToneDef on May 07, 2006, 12:31 AM
Quote from: Assassin on May 07, 2006, 12:26 AM
Quote from: ToneDef on May 07, 2006, 12:22 AMThat'll never happen though. Metallica will always remain a joke. Like a dog with 2 legs and one eye that just refuses to die and limps on, destroying every shred of dignity it once had and who will probably die in a pile of his own shit.

That's way too harsh man!

Nah man. Don't get me wrong, I respect the band they once were. But do I respect them now? No fucking way.

For this album to save them it has gotta be some tremendous shit. It's gotta overcome the joke that was St Anger as well as stamp some authority on the current scene. I just cant see that happening. Metallica just aren't Metallica anymore.

You may like St Anger, and that's up to you. Around 100% of the rest of the worlds population don't though.

I can see where you're coming from, and you're right about the importance of their next album being some mindblowing stuff, but I wouldn't cast them aside so lightly. Pretty much every band makes at least one crappy album, and in many cases they're all crappy. Even if the next one is crap though, I'll still respect Metallica for their previous work and for the impact they've had on the genre of heavy/thrash metal.

Btw I don't necessarily like St. Anger, their old school stuff is incomparably better, but I just think it gets bashed way too much. Then again, for such a great band to slip in its standards that dramatically, I can't say I blame the older fans of Metallica. I know I would be truly disappointed if I'd been listening since the Master Of Puppets/...And Justice For All/Black album era and then I heard that, but luckily for me I'm a noob so my untrained ears aren't as fussy when it comes to Metallica.

Malpractice

never lose hope

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Quote from: Assassin on May 06, 2006, 06:05 PM
St. Anger was the first Metallica album I bought, and I don't think it's that bad actually! Their older stuff is infinitely better though. I'm definitely curious about the new album, Metallica are definitely not washed up. Master Of Puppets, ...And Justice For All and the Black album are still absolute classics!
same here!


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fireflyry

Anyone who has'nt watched "Some Kind Of Monster" should definitly check it out.Not only a highly entertaining documentary but personally it shed a lot of light as to why St Anger was a bit of a let down.With all the turmoil surrounding that recording it actually helped me understand why St Anger was pretty disjointed as an album.

I also think getting Rick Rubin on board is the best thing they could have done.Bob Rock is a pretty good producer but it's obvious he's way to close to the band which must have effected their recording process.It seemed to me that he was such a good mate of the band he lost his neutrality in telling them what worked and what did'nt as it must be hard to tell your mates "Dude.....that riff really sucks some major nuts and Lars dude...buy a new snare."

I'm curious to hear this new album.
 
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ben

Why care about these money-hungry pricks when there are much better bands out there, espeacially if you're looking for metal.


Assassin

Quote from: ben on May 07, 2006, 02:07 PM
Why care about these money-hungry pricks

Is that a rhetorical question?

Azwethinkweiz

Kill 'Em All
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
...And Justice For All
Metallica (black album)

= GREAT albums.

Load and Re-load had a few "ok" songs.
Whiskey in the Jar is a great cover and I personally enjoyed the S&M album.

St. Anger is rubbish.

Assassin

Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on May 07, 2006, 02:38 PM
I personally enjoyed the S&M album.

How awesome is the S&M version of Wherever I May Roam? That gets me going every time! In fact, I'll put it on now...

Chrisbo

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I think it's true what Tonedef says here though

Quote from: ToneDef on May 07, 2006, 12:22 AMNo band ever goes back to their old sound. Ever. A bands sound is as much to do with the production as it is with the instrumentation. Sure they could come up with all these classic Metallica riffs, but it would still be made in some high quality studio by todays production standards.

When you listen to albums like Master Of Puppets and that, the feelings you get from them, it's as much to do with the time of those albums as it is the music itself, it feels classic due to its lifespan! A product of its time! To say they're going back to the 'old sound' is silly, it's not that "time" anymore, ya know! I do still have mass respect for Metallica though, mainly because they were one of the first bands that I listened to and basically got me into heavy music, so I'll never really turn my back on them or anything. I'm as curious as anyone else is on how this new album is gonna sound like, but saying it's "Old Metallica" again is just building the fans up for a disappointment! Who knows though, maybe it'll be the greatest Metallica record in years and the doubters will have to eat their own words haha!

What I find funny though is with some of the people that I know, they say they hate the Black Album, and say it's a weak record! No fucking way! Ok, so it's not "thrash", but it's still a classic heavy metal record! Dont diss it because it's not like Master Of Puppets, ya know!

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