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Started by Fireal1222, Feb 20, 2006, 08:24 PM

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Fireal1222

i cant imagine what this next record will sound like.. i cant possibly imagine it being good. theyve gotta make one shitty record. there human

I'm Not Here.
This Isn't Happening.

Cynique

It's adorable band...with original sound and very deep lyrics.For me...)
This town, don't feel mine
I'm fast to, get away
Far!

Cynique

I really like 2+2=5 anime video...It's fantastic!
This town, don't feel mine
I'm fast to, get away
Far!

ben

I think The Eraser is the best album I have heard all year, frankly.  Besides Anathallo.

skinnypuppy

#504
I've had lots of religious-like experiences at concerts, but what I felt at the radiohead concert was like a near death experience. I closed my eyes during the closing song ("Lucky") and while the red strobe lights flashed through the lids of my eyes, I felt like I was in another place, the hallway from life to death... It was breath-taking.

The new material is awesome. Two of the nine new songs brought chills to my spine, which is pretty good considering I couldn't fully understand the vocals and the instruments themselves morph together more during live performances. The new material is a cross between dancy indie rock and beautiful ambient piano driven material. It's got remnients of The Bends, Amnesiac and HTTT.

As for the stage presence; it was top notch. Some people said Thom didn't look that happy, but it seemed as if he had a smile on his face during most of the show, and danced around taboot. He got pissed off with the audience a few times though. Someone yelled out "Creep!" once and he said ""creep" is so last week" and later in the show ""creep" my ass" - he also called us a bunch of monkey's in a negative way. Nonetheless, everyone seemed to be really into it in the band.

Bergerac

I dislike them. Personally, I think its obvious that OK Computer was a calculated album, laden with altruisms about 9 to 5, commuting, drinking tea, watching television, nights out or whatever other subject they could use to generate mass buys. I think its a disgusting dishonest album.

Fireal1222

Quote from: Bergerac on Jul 02, 2006, 04:21 PM
I dislike them. Personally, I think its obvious that OK Computer was a calculated album, laden with altruisms about 9 to 5, commuting, drinking tea, watching television, nights out or whatever other subject they could use to generate mass buys. I think its a disgusting dishonest album.



yeah man, radiohead are garbage.

I'm Not Here.
This Isn't Happening.

Bergerac

Well, yes, they are. Though, Pink Floyd is without doubt my most hated band, so its no wonder that we aren't in agreement.

Musically speaking... the technical side, I can admit that Radiohead are very good. Its the lack of sincerity that bothers me.

I'd rather listen to someone bang on a biscuit tin and mean it, than someone who wrote great, technical music and songs with a design to proliferate falsified empathics. So yes, Radiohead are garbage, because they don't care for anything other than selling through 'intellectualising' their music.

Though, this is a public conversation, so how can you expect all responses to be in praise? I don't much care if the NME are up their arses because they went Oxford. They're still insincere.

ben

You're so cool.  You so get it.

Bergerac

Quote from: ben on Jul 03, 2006, 12:12 AM
You're so cool.  You so get it.

Are you being... sincere?  :P :)

Nice smiling woman you have there anyway, regardless. ;)

ben

Just because you complimented her, I'll leave you be good sir.

Fireal1222

ill bash him then...  do me a favor bergerac. post me the lyrics to one radiohead song.. just one. that you think has "falsified empathetics"



I'm Not Here.
This Isn't Happening.

Bergerac

#512
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 03, 2006, 03:43 AM
ill bash him then... 

Why bash me? For disagreeing? You quite literally do expect everyone to respond positively, don't you? Not everyone likes Radiohead.

Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 03, 2006, 03:43 AMdo me a favor bergerac. post me the lyrics to one radiohead song.. just one. that you think has "falsified empathetics"

Perhaps you missed me pointing out the whole of OK Computer. I don't need to point out a specific example when I've pointed toward the entire album. Whether its 'Paranoid Android', 'Let Down', 'The Tourist' or, Good Lord... 'Fitter Happier'... they all say the same thing:

'We're Radiohead, and we understand every nuancé of society. We understand how people think, and we're on your side. In fact, we understand it so well and can articulate it for you to such an extent that you should buy our records, because we can identify with you.'

Moz La Punk

I can see where he's coming from, but Radiohead are one of my favourite bands. Hurray for different opinions.

law

Quote from: Moz La Punk on Jul 03, 2006, 11:03 AM
I can see where he's coming from, but Radiohead are one of my favourite bands. Hurray for different opinions.

word.

Bring back the 'rape time' sig moz ;)

no name cola

anyway. KID A is still one of my favorite albums, even 6 years later.

Fireal1222

Quote from: Bergerac on Jul 03, 2006, 10:54 AM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 03, 2006, 03:43 AM
ill bash him then...

Why bash me? For disagreeing? You quite literally do expect everyone to respond positively, don't you? Not everyone likes Radiohead.

Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jul 03, 2006, 03:43 AMdo me a favor bergerac. post me the lyrics to one radiohead song.. just one. that you think has "falsified empathetics"

Perhaps you missed me pointing out the whole of OK Computer. I don't need to point out a specific example when I've pointed toward the entire album. Whether its 'Paranoid Android', 'Let Down', 'The Tourist' or, Good Lord... 'Fitter Happier'... they all say the same thing:

'We're Radiohead, and we understand every nuancé of society. We understand how people think, and we're on your side. In fact, we understand it so well and can articulate it for you to such an extent that you should buy our records, because we can identify with you.'



haha, you cant give one line of lyrics in which thom is being "falsely empathetic" haha you cant even find one, yet u expect people to listen to you

instead youll just keep saying, i said all of ok computer. yet u wont put out one sentence from the entire album

I'm Not Here.
This Isn't Happening.

Bergerac

#517
You mean you've proven me wrong because I've given more than you asked for? That doesn't make sense. Why give you one single line of a song when I quite clearly stated that I believe all the lines in the song prove my point?

I'm fairly sure that not only do you have the lyrics for 'Fitter Happier', for example, but that you could likely recite most of it from memory. I can remember it, so why do I need to post it to prove my point? How does not posting it disprove my point? What you will, then. I'll post 'Fitter Happier' for you. Though I could go for any song, especially on OK Computer.

Fitter, happier, more productive,
comfortable,
not drinking too much,
regular exercise at the gym
(3 days a week),
getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries,
at ease,
eating well
(no more microwave dinners and saturated fats),
a patient better driver,
a safer car
(baby smiling in back seat),
sleeping well
(no bad dreams),
no paranoia,
careful to all animals
(never washing spiders down the plughole),
keep in contact with old friends
(enjoy a drink now and then),
will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall),
favors for favors,
fond but not in love,
charity standing orders,
on Sundays ring road supermarket
(no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants),
car wash
(also on Sundays),
no longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate,
nothing so childish - at a better pace,
slower and more calculated,
no chance of escape,
now self-employed,
concerned (but powerless),
an empowered and informed member of society
(pragmatism not idealism),
will not cry in public,
less chance of illness,
tires that grip in the wet
(shot of baby strapped in back seat),
a good memory,
still cries at a good film,
still kisses with saliva,
no longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick,
that's driven into frozen winter shit
(the ability to laugh at weakness),
calm,
fitter,
healthier and more productive
a pig in a cage on antibiotics.


Now, I've posted all of it. Why post all of it? I mean all of it. Not one or two lines. All of it.

Read that, and tell me; A) how that is not Radiohead trying to sum up the general behaviourisms and feelings of most normal people, followed by B) how that is not Radiohead trying to tell us that they understand how we want to feel, for the purpose of C) empathising with us on nothing more than the very subtle presumption to dictate, in a calculated attempt to woo people into believing that Radiohead are societal saviours.

The great irony being that Yorke's own musings of being just that - a societal saviour - are just as commonplace and banal as any of those of anyone whom he patronises.

Did I need to do that? No, because 'Fitter Happier' has very memorable lyrics, and I knew that we both know them. Everything Radiohead has done right back to 'Creep' has been the exact calculated crap I've been talking about. Everything they've ever done has been about falsified bonding with the common person. For what purposes? I can only presume to make money - as that's all they accomplish outside of proliferating their music.

OK Computer just happens to be the best example, and if I say 'all of OK Computer', its because I mean 'all of OK Computer'.

Though to be honest, I don't believe you actually know what I'm talking about, otherwise you'd stop trying to bait me with the tangentile, which has nothing to do with an argument that I don't need to present any further.

OK Computer is a perfect example of picking out the societal lowest common denominators in; people who work, especially in an office; people who've been cruel to animals; people who've felt basic alienation; people who've thought about mortality - and to specifically fit into the fast paced, commuting lifestyles Radiohead are critiquing, being in a car wreck or airplane crash; people with status anxieties; people who'd like to think that they're politically aware; people who're new parents... or whatever other trivialities that happen. This all leading up to the final, universal exclamation of loathing for, and excommunication from the world, in which Radiohead can have people ultimately identify with the music.

All Radiohead then have to do is soup up the lyrics in an 'intellectually superior' way in order to clinch people's egos. Everybody's a pseudo intellectual. Everybody wants to believe that they can have an enlightened laugh at triviality. Radiohead indulge this mindless need for societal superiority and then cash in on some supposed 'bond' they have with us.

'Yes, the world is unkind, and we are with you.'

...and for that I say Bollocks to Radiohead.

lostcancer

Well i guess everybody is entitled to their own opinion, in the end you listen to what makes you feel good and smile whether it be a kelly clarkson tune or an amazing live radiohead show, can't wait for their new album.

Bergerac

I understand that, but that guy refuses to acknowledge that I have an opinion.