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Started by Drop-Dead, Sep 15, 2005, 05:44 PM

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E-Money

Quote from: derekautomatica on Oct 20, 2010, 07:09 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 19, 2010, 04:23 PM
Bixla is correct man, try not to make her feel like shes too out of it.  And just be there for her.  Maybe u two can get some couples therapy going.  Sounds like its more about some personal issues she's having but just be there for her.  And get her off the pills as soon as u can.  Its hard to think rationally on a bunch of shit... at least it is for me....

Well that was how she tried to kill herself. She took half a bottle of klonopin, 2oz of nyquill, and some aspirin. So I guess her dad keeps all the pills locked up in his room. I tried to tell her to just smoke pot and there's an ample amount of pot at my house so that's not an issue. But she said that pot "isn't fun for her" when in this case its not for just getting stoned, its actually for medicinal purposes. But over the past few days things are kind of getting better but she's still having really bad panic attacks. There's only so much I can do but thanks for the input everyone its helped a lot. Plus she needs to start rockin out to some Deftones and not that dubstep nonsense.

Word, well Im with u on the herb man... But I do see how it could also be a problem.  I truly believe herb has the great power of calming people down and taking their mind off tough times.  But I do have some friends who sometimes get panic attacks while smoking.  But yea make sure she's away from all the Klonopin and shit,  way too easy to od from.  She's going thru a rough time but I bet she'll be surprised how quickly life can turn around.  Good luck to the both of u bud!

derekautomatica

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Quote from: E-Money on Oct 21, 2010, 05:12 AM
Quote from: derekautomatica on Oct 20, 2010, 07:09 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Oct 19, 2010, 04:23 PM
Bixla is correct man, try not to make her feel like shes too out of it.  And just be there for her.  Maybe u two can get some couples therapy going.  Sounds like its more about some personal issues she's having but just be there for her.  And get her off the pills as soon as u can.  Its hard to think rationally on a bunch of shit... at least it is for me....


Well that was how she tried to kill herself. She took half a bottle of klonopin, 2oz of nyquill, and some aspirin. So I guess her dad keeps all the pills locked up in his room. I tried to tell her to just smoke pot and there's an ample amount of pot at my house so that's not an issue. But she said that pot "isn't fun for her" when in this case its not for just getting stoned, its actually for medicinal purposes. But over the past few days things are kind of getting better but she's still having really bad panic attacks. There's only so much I can do but thanks for the input everyone its helped a lot. Plus she needs to start rockin out to some Deftones and not that dubstep nonsense.

Word, well Im with u on the herb man... But I do see how it could also be a problem.  I truly believe herb has the great power of calming people down and taking their mind off tough times.  But I do have some friends who sometimes get panic attacks while smoking.  But yea make sure she's away from all the Klonopin and shit,  way too easy to od from.  She's going thru a rough time but I bet she'll be surprised how quickly life can turn around.  Good luck to the both of u bud!

Thanks man. I'm going to definitely try and get her off of the klonopin.

sing blue silver

Quote from: blixa on Oct 21, 2010, 01:42 AM
why can't boys offer girls milkshakes instead of pot? i don't understand...

because hippie chicks get mad that milkshakes perpetuate the slavery of innocent cows while offering a hippie chick a joint, she's much more likely to accept and subsequently fuck you. as we all know, hippie chicks are the easiest chicks as long as you don't get their womb in a knot about the poor wittle aminals.

as a side note the restaurant across the street from my house has the all time best milkshakes on the planet.

usefulidiot

I'm going to say it again but put more emphasis on it.

POT + ANXIETY = BAD

I worked the last 10 years in medical research, some of that has been on physciatric drugs.  Pot is a wonderful thing, I smoke every day, but I do know that for people suffering anxiety and panic attacks although it can temporarily help some people some of the time it is in fact deterimental over the medium to long term, and can seriously inhibit the recovery of a ill person.  I have  a number of pot smoking friends (including the suicial ex I spoke of in another post) who tried to get through their shit while smoking and it only ended up dragging out the issue and slowing the healing that needed to take place. Some have gioen up pot completly, others came back to it with no troubles, but only AFTER they had sorted their shit. People often assume physciatic and medical diseses are different things, but they are actaully a different part of the spectrum of illness and (dispite the many horror stories floating about) the vast majority of the time, are dealt with effectivly through evidence based medicine. Klonopin IS an effective drug for the type of thing you've described, if you are concerned about it get a second even an thrid opinion, but dont dismiss a medical professional's advice just cause it doesn't sit right with you.

Not trying to lecture anyone or anything(  t seems I did!), but I work at a medical school and there is case after case after case of people who thought they knew better than their doctor about how to treat their illness, both physical and mental, only to have them come back several months later much sicker than they were intially. /endrant

derekautomatica

Can't it just be because pot is awesome?

sing blue silver

Quote from: usefulidiot on Oct 21, 2010, 08:14 PM
I'm going to say it again but put more emphasis on it.

POT + ANXIETY = BAD

I worked the last 10 years in medical research, some of that has been on physciatric drugs.  Pot is a wonderful thing, I smoke every day, but I do know that for people suffering anxiety and panic attacks although it can temporarily help some people some of the time it is in fact deterimental over the medium to long term, and can seriously inhibit the recovery of a ill person.  I have  a number of pot smoking friends (including the suicial ex I spoke of in another post) who tried to get through their shit while smoking and it only ended up dragging out the issue and slowing the healing that needed to take place. Some have gioen up pot completly, others came back to it with no troubles, but only AFTER they had sorted their shit. People often assume physciatic and medical diseses are different things, but they are actaully a different part of the spectrum of illness and (dispite the many horror stories floating about) the vast majority of the time, are dealt with effectivly through evidence based medicine. Klonopin IS an effective drug for the type of thing you've described, if you are concerned about it get a second even an thrid opinion, but dont dismiss a medical professional's advice just cause it doesn't sit right with you.

Not trying to lecture anyone or anything(  t seems I did!), but I work at a medical school and there is case after case after case of people who thought they knew better than their doctor about how to treat their illness, both physical and mental, only to have them come back several months later much sicker than they were intially. /endrant

pretty much this. i have severe anxiety and it often results in panic attacks and though i'm a weed advocate and i LOVE pot it will always make my anxiety worse. for people who don't have a legitimate problem with it and smoke when stressed it can lower your stress levels but if you're having an episode of anxiety, for me, it will almost always result in a panic attack which are VERY uncomfortable. like pins and needles through your whole body and an intense pressure in your chest.

blixa

Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 21, 2010, 01:57 AM
speaking of milkshakes, i had a mocha and orange milkshake last weekend. random i know, but still, worst shake i have ever tasted.

i lost a bet once over something and i had to drink an onion and soymilk shake. i passed out afterwards. i can't talk about it without crying hahaha


Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 21, 2010, 05:59 PM
Quote from: blixa on Oct 21, 2010, 01:42 AM
why can't boys offer girls milkshakes instead of pot? i don't understand...

because hippie chicks get mad that milkshakes perpetuate the slavery of innocent cows while offering a hippie chick a joint, she's much more likely to accept and subsequently fuck you. as we all know, hippie chicks are the easiest chicks as long as you don't get their womb in a knot about the poor wittle aminals.

as a side note the restaurant across the street from my house has the all time best milkshakes on the planet.

mate, what hippie girls are you hanging around with? i used to be a bit of a hippie when i was in my teens and all the girls i knew would break men's noses if they so much bought them a drink.

lostpilot

I decided to sleep deprive myself (for the mind setting of finishing my latest album, "Silk Spaceport", which is in a way dedicated to Carl (No_More_Sugar from SL).

SO far 20 hours. Goal? 72?.. Maybe?

derekautomatica

Quote from: lostpilot on Oct 22, 2010, 05:31 AM
I decided to sleep deprive myself (for the mind setting of finishing my latest album, "Silk Spaceport", which is in a way dedicated to Carl (No_More_Sugar from SL).

SO far 20 hours. Goal? 72?.. Maybe?

Get ready for some REM rebound...you're gonna have some gnarly dreams.

lostpilot

I don't think I'll last too long. It's 23rd hour and I already feel so tired I could sleep any second now. I'm gonna drink some mate. No coffee, no nicotine (btw, I quit smoking about 20 days ago), no drugs, just some mate tea. :) I want to be awake for at least twice as much. I have to find ways to keep my mind working. Playstation? lol :)

sing blue silver

Quote from: blixa on Oct 22, 2010, 04:56 AM
Quote from: bright lights, big city on Oct 21, 2010, 01:57 AM
speaking of milkshakes, i had a mocha and orange milkshake last weekend. random i know, but still, worst shake i have ever tasted.

i lost a bet once over something and i had to drink an onion and soymilk shake. i passed out afterwards. i can't talk about it without crying hahaha


Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 21, 2010, 05:59 PM
Quote from: blixa on Oct 21, 2010, 01:42 AM
why can't boys offer girls milkshakes instead of pot? i don't understand...

because hippie chicks get mad that milkshakes perpetuate the slavery of innocent cows while offering a hippie chick a joint, she's much more likely to accept and subsequently fuck you. as we all know, hippie chicks are the easiest chicks as long as you don't get their womb in a knot about the poor wittle aminals.

as a side note the restaurant across the street from my house has the all time best milkshakes on the planet.

mate, what hippie girls are you hanging around with? i used to be a bit of a hippie when i was in my teens and all the girls i knew would break men's noses if they so much bought them a drink.

i think you might be mistaking hippies and big angry lesbians.

derekautomatica

Quote from: lostpilot on Oct 22, 2010, 08:35 AM
I don't think I'll last too long. It's 23rd hour and I already feel so tired I could sleep any second now. I'm gonna drink some mate. No coffee, no nicotine (btw, I quit smoking about 20 days ago), no drugs, just some mate tea. :) I want to be awake for at least twice as much. I have to find ways to keep my mind working. Playstation? lol :)

Games wear me out man...

lostpilot

I obivously failed at 30 hours. Pussy. :D

Crazylegs

i don't think i've ever even been awake for 24 hours straight.

from_musings

Quote from: Crazylegs on Oct 23, 2010, 11:50 AM
i don't think i've ever even been awake for 24 hours straight.

No, life isn't THAT fun


:'(

Crazylegs

it can be some times. Nothing is better than sleeping though.

Variable

I have found amphetamines to be better than sleeping

tarkil

Nah, not really actually...

What's up with you man ?



If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face.

Variable

I'm back but Ive been stupid busy getting settled back in.  Give me till about mid november until I'm back to normal

kittyy

Quote from: derekautomatica on Oct 21, 2010, 03:43 AM
She knows I'm there for her because she even admitted it to me. I've always told her I'm there for her and she knows that. I truly think it is the pills because when she takes them it seems like its even worse. But when she smokes pot with me she's actually way more mellow...the only thing is her dad doesn't like pot so its kind of hard for her to get away with it. I find it interesting how her dad's cool with klonopin, which is way worse than pot...yet she can't toke it up when its clearly safer for her. Seems like things are looking up in a way but she's still having panic attacks so I'm just giving her some space because this is out of my hands now.

Yeah, it's the klonopin. I'm still prescribed to it, but I never take it cause it did the same thing to me as well. Try to talk her into weaning off of it. It'll calm the panic attacks more than just quiting. She may still have panic attacks, but that's something she should try to learn to control. Well, not necessarily control, but like, learn how to calm herself when she feels one coming on, so it doesn't affect her nearly as badly. If that makes any sense at all..? lol. I'm half awake, so my apologies if I'm not making sense.
RIP No More Sugar<3