Drunk and/or Stoned

[tarkil]

Cool... I'm looking forward to your findings then...   

[Variable]

Yeah so its really hard to find any good web sites on this.  Most are just web sites that are trying to get you to stop drinking all together. 

But from what I found there is nothing saying that vodka is worse than any other alcohol ( I dont know if you meant vodka in particular of just alcohol in general ) But im not going to insult your intelligence and tell you all the bad side effect of alcohol because im sure you know.  If I happen to run into anything strange ill post it though.

a side note though.  There is tons of research on memory loss and marijuana.  Not that im trying to get anyone to quit smoking or anything.  But if someone is having memory loss problems...and they smoke.......

[Variable]

actually this is kind of interesting.

The harmful effects of alcohol intoxication and alcohol abuse on memory are well known—for example, the college student who can't remember a conversation she had at a party the night before, or the man who wakes up in a hotel room with no recollection of how he got there.

But what may be less well known are the benefits that moderate amounts of alcohol can have on cognitive function. Growing evidence shows that people who drink moderately are at lower risk for memory loss and dementia.
http://www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com/reports/memory/66-1.html

It also says that alcohol increases a womans risk for breast cancer.  Never knew that.

[Fireal1222]

lmao


i def. wont smoke tonight.. and ill do what i can to not smoke all day tomorrow


ill post here when i do give in

it should not be that hard not to smoke if you dont want to.

of course you will remember it.  It happened in an e-conversation. 

But you of all people should know that I am probably the only board member that shares your love of vodka at the same level.  I would not bad talk it.

Shit I forgot it already !!!!
to snicker to snicker to snicker to snicker to snicker.... There, hopefully should be better now !

And yeah, I knew you'd never bad mouth vodka (neither would I), but I heard several times before that it's the alcohol that causes the most blackouts... Like it erases your memory... Maybe you had some more info on that, but I guess that's not really was they teach you...

im a corpsman.  Im supposed to know everything, but they teach me nothing.  Ill do the research there for you ( us )  though.

thats what people think who only smoke weed once and a while.. when you've been smoking all day for 2 years straight. it becomes a really tough fucking habit to break

when u get out of the service and you are home and able to drink. it'll be tough to quit once u started it back up again. its kind of like that.. except most people dont drink alcohol as often as people who smoke pot.. in most cases


people who drink a lot usually drink at night. unless they have a really bad drinking problem.. people who smoke too much weed smoke it all day long.. so its more difficult when everything reminds u of smoking


anyway. i still havent smoked since that post last night. but im about to smoke. im fucking dying to. lol

[Fireal1222]

Yeah so its really hard to find any good web sites on this.  Most are just web sites that are trying to get you to stop drinking all together. 

But from what I found there is nothing saying that vodka is worse than any other alcohol ( I dont know if you meant vodka in particular of just alcohol in general ) But im not going to insult your intelligence and tell you all the bad side effect of alcohol because im sure you know.  If I happen to run into anything strange ill post it though.

a side note though.  There is tons of research on memory loss and marijuana.  Not that im trying to get anyone to quit smoking or anything.  But if someone is having memory loss problems...and they smoke.......

its usually short term memory loss.. the THC sticks to cannabinoids  (sp)   in your brain... they are your short term memory receptors.. so when you are really high its tough to remember what you did a couple minutes ago..

marijuana really doesn't have that many health risks.. the main health risk is caused from smoking ( smoking anything is bad for the lungs ). marijuana is really meant to be eaten.. but the amount u need to eat to get high is insane. so people smoke it


it certainly is not good to smoke as much pot as i do.. i know. and understand that

but if u r someone who smokes from time to time. and only does it on the weekends of whatever. then you are responsible with it.. and there really isnt anything wrong with using pot like that

its when u abuse it that u look at more health risks

and i certainly abuse it...



oh and variable. vodka is one of the worst types of alcohol for a human. but its mainly due to the health risks on your stomach.. vodka is a type of liquor that does tons of damage on your esophagus... personally i think something as simple as using a good chaser can help.. orange juice is a bad chaser because theres a ton of acid in the orange juice. which is also bad for the esophagus

personally i dont usually need a chaser ( i like whiskey).. but its smart to use one. because a pure shot of liquor straight to ur stomach. is absolutely terrible for the lining of your esophagus

[goldpony]

Yeah so its really hard to find any good web sites on this.  Most are just web sites that are trying to get you to stop drinking all together. 

But from what I found there is nothing saying that vodka is worse than any other alcohol ( I dont know if you meant vodka in particular of just alcohol in general ) But im not going to insult your intelligence and tell you all the bad side effect of alcohol because im sure you know.  If I happen to run into anything strange ill post it though.

a side note though.  There is tons of research on memory loss and marijuana.  Not that im trying to get anyone to quit smoking or anything.  But if someone is having memory loss problems...and they smoke.......

its usually short term memory loss.. the THC sticks to cannabinoids  (sp)   in your brain... they are your short term memory receptors.. so when you are really high its tough to remember what you did a couple minutes ago..

marijuana really doesn't have that many health risks.. the main health risk is caused from smoking ( smoking anything is bad for the lungs ). marijuana is really meant to be eaten.. but the amount u need to eat to get high is insane. so people smoke it


it certainly is not good to smoke as much pot as i do.. i know. and understand that

but if u r someone who smokes from time to time. and only does it on the weekends of whatever. then you are responsible with it.. and there really isnt anything wrong with using pot like that

its when u abuse it that u look at more health risks

and i certainly abuse it...



oh and variable. vodka is one of the worst types of alcohol for a human. but its mainly due to the health risks on your stomach.. vodka is a type of liquor that does tons of damage on your esophagus... personally i think something as simple as using a good chaser can help.. orange juice is a bad chaser because theres a ton of acid in the orange juice. which is also bad for the esophagus

personally i dont usually need a chaser ( i like whiskey).. but its smart to use one. because a pure shot of liquor straight to ur stomach. is absolutely terrible for the lining of your esophagus

i agree with everything fireal said about pot. say what you want but it is addictive. ive seen people actually get shakes from not smokin (they smoke an unbelievable amount tho). i know i start to get really edgy if i dont smoke for a couple of days, there is definitely a withdrawl effect.

and about alcohol being bad for your stomach...funny story: I was back home from school one winter and my friend wanted to celebrate. so we go to the bowling alley and there are like 30 people there i know all bowling together. im bullshittin with everyone when my friend comes up to me and says "drink this". i knew this would turn out bad, so i asked what it was. he wouldnt tell me and like an idiot i drank it. a straight shot of 151. i ended up immediately pukin on this guy that was with us. it was cool tho cause he is kinda a tool. everyone was high fivin me the rest of the night for pukin on him

[shine down unshy]

hahahah

[devilinside]

I do have to say,my stepmom has been smoking it since as long as i have known her (21 years) and she is pretty fucking forgetful when she's not high. The longer she's smoked the worse it has gotten,especially since she retired and she doesnt have to worry about random drug testing and does it everyday.  So I disagree with the "short term" memory loss.

[Fireal1222]

fuck i forget what i was gonna post

jk.


i smoked.. im really really high from it too... i packed up the bong and hit it only once or twice throughout the day

had a great time at a softball game today. was fun to not be high and dreamy all day.. i gotta cut down bigtime

[Jerry_Curls]

Weird time for me to chime in. I have been planning to stop for a but and he is Fireal tring as well. We can do it!

I smoke everyday. Sometimes beforehand or afterwards I'm drunk as well. And I smoke cigarettes. Everyday. So I kinda wan to cleanse myself a little. Kinda have to clear my mind of addictions. And someone mentioned shakes from not smoking-  I never thought about that bu that must be why I shake sometimes. t's kinda weird. And my throat is all fucked up. So after tonight, I'm going to try and stay sober for a bit.

Last joint for a while.

[snw777]

Im the oposite.
I dont smoke since june 06 and I wanna smoke for a little.

[Variable]

Yeah so its really hard to find any good web sites on this.  Most are just web sites that are trying to get you to stop drinking all together. 

But from what I found there is nothing saying that vodka is worse than any other alcohol ( I dont know if you meant vodka in particular of just alcohol in general ) But im not going to insult your intelligence and tell you all the bad side effect of alcohol because im sure you know.  If I happen to run into anything strange ill post it though.

a side note though.  There is tons of research on memory loss and marijuana.  Not that im trying to get anyone to quit smoking or anything.  But if someone is having memory loss problems...and they smoke.......

its usually short term memory loss.. the THC sticks to cannabinoids  (sp)   in your brain... they are your short term memory receptors.. so when you are really high its tough to remember what you did a couple minutes ago..

marijuana really doesn't have that many health risks.. the main health risk is caused from smoking ( smoking anything is bad for the lungs ). marijuana is really meant to be eaten.. but the amount u need to eat to get high is insane. so people smoke it


it certainly is not good to smoke as much pot as i do.. i know. and understand that

but if u r someone who smokes from time to time. and only does it on the weekends of whatever. then you are responsible with it.. and there really isnt anything wrong with using pot like that

its when u abuse it that u look at more health risks

and i certainly abuse it...



oh and variable. vodka is one of the worst types of alcohol for a human. but its mainly due to the health risks on your stomach.. vodka is a type of liquor that does tons of damage on your esophagus... personally i think something as simple as using a good chaser can help.. orange juice is a bad chaser because theres a ton of acid in the orange juice. which is also bad for the esophagus

personally i dont usually need a chaser ( i like whiskey).. but its smart to use one. because a pure shot of liquor straight to ur stomach. is absolutely terrible for the lining of your esophagus

I know pot is addictive.  It , like alcohol, is very addictive.  I was probably not clear on what I meant.  What I was trying to communicate is that you should never put yourself in the position where something has control over you like that.  If you want to quit something, you would be able to drop it any time you want, for as long as you want.  If you get to the point where you cant, you should take a serious look at yourself and change something.  Im not saying that to look down on you (god knows we all have our vices) It is just concerning to hear someone say that they are not able to quit something.

However, I do think it is completely ridiculous that you would even suggest that marijuana doesn't have very many health risk.  I think you might be getting your info from too many stoner circles than actual legit sources.  I wont lecture you, but if it actually matters to you, I would look it up.

Im not sure about the whole vodka being bad for your stomach thing.  I mean obviously all alcohol is bad for your entire GI system.  but I dont know about vodka in particular being any worse.  Once again, that's something ill look up when I have more time.

But in the end man there is something called "the college drinking syndrome"  That today can probably also be translated into a smoking syndrome too.  Most people age 20-25 (give or take) drink like fish because they are new adults and dont really have any real life responsibilities.  But as you get older and you get more responsibilities most people tend to ease up and eventually move to social drinkers - smokers.  so I say enjoy the hell out of yourself, just dont get into any holes you cant get out of.

[lostpilot]

But in the end man there is something called "the college drinking syndrome"  That today can probably also be translated into a smoking syndrome too.  Most people age 20-25 (give or take) drink like fish because they are new adults and dont really have any real life responsibilities.  But as you get older and you get more responsibilities most people tend to ease up and eventually move to social drinkers - smokers.  so I say enjoy the hell out of yourself, just dont get into any holes you cant get out of.

I totally agree with this one.
Tonight was one of the examples of whole college drunk fest thing.

[Variable]

me too.  Had my frist taste of vodka in 9 months tonight.  GOD I forgot how much I love vodka

[alvarezbassist17]

smokin a toke before my guitar lesson wooo

[Variable]

whats going on man.  Why dont you realize you will never be a rock star and stay and chat a while?

[alvarezbassist17]

it's not the rockstardom that takes up all my time, i already got that shit on lockdown, it's the trying to be an accountant thing that makes me so effin busy.

and i am hungover as a goose so i'm goin back to bed.

ps i fuckin hate smokin tweedz with matches

[Variable]

yeah that really doesnt sound like much fun

[tarkil]

So I lost my phone, wallet, camera and memory yesterday... Thank you vodka...

Fucking terrible... Obviously, my wallet contained everything : credit cards, id, health card, etc. And my camera had pictures of me wearing just boxers on a bed in the middle of 8 girls dressed in lingerie....

Damn, now I hate that I forget everything while drunk.... Fuck fuck fuck fuck

[White Pwny]

Eeper!   That would suck.   Hopefully you can find at the very least your wallet. 

Who knows.. maybe that pic will make rounds on the internet and you will be like the next big thing.   



Stuff like this is exactly why I don't drink.   


Mary Jane FTW!