"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

[Shadow46/2]

Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS. 

[xtalaphextwin]

I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.

idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.

[rainnyx4]

I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.

idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.

That's definitely may favorite part of the album and wish they had done more dreamy leads like that. It's very KNY (the latter half of the song feels a lot like Entombed, my favorite track off there), which is my favorite album since WP. Only problem is that I actually feel like it could have been even bigger. The second time they do it, they should've played a little with the line on the second run through, adding in some flourishes or even turning it into something approaching a solo to really mix it up. Could've been epic. But that's my problem with this album. Feels a lot like Tool's Fear Inoculum album, where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.

[Sal_Ameigh]

Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS.

The start of Urantia and Bay Area Metal parts are begging for double bass from Abe though. Chino said in a recent interview when have they ever done that, but all the more reason to do that and expand their sound. Double bass could have been added in just the heavy guitar parts and made the song that much more heavier and brutal. I mean there was a point they never did a solo then they had Jerry Cantrell play a solo. There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.

But that's my problem with this album.  where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.

Agree 100%. Wish Abe expanded his drum kit. Not change his playing style. Just a bigger palette of sounds to hear. Abe is one of the best drummers in Rock/Metal over the last 40+ years. He's like John Bonham. You know it's Abe when you hear him. I love the band, but I'd really love to hear them keep growing sonically too. Like if Chino played a tenor guitar or soprano guitar or Sergio played a 6 string piccolo bass. Just something new and different to expand their sound. Frank on a ROLI Seaboard. Seems like the only one continually evolving musically is Stephen trying new extended range guitars.

Or what of they took cue from their past in other ways like having a song with a guest vocalist and also having someone play a solo on the same song?

[Draken]

Urantia is the best song. Should be the next single if they do another. It deserves a real video. And man WHAT AN EARWORM OF A CHORUS.

As much as I want TSOM to be the next single I know it's likely to be Urantia, if there is another one. I love that song, honestly thought it was going to be the first single when I heard the snippet that Abe teased us with.

[xtalaphextwin]

I like that beautiful riff Stephan pulls out in the second half of the song ''Error'' just stunning how the music rises so atmospheric, one of their best riffs, and I've been a fan for over a decade, never heard them sound quite like that before. Check it out it starts at like 2:49 into that song ''error'', its just awesome keep returning to it. and great decision to make chinos vocals more sort of reverbed in that part the combination is just so effective. great job from Terry Date.

idk why but that part makes me feel a type of way, it sounds so emotive yet warm too, sad but hopeful. unexplainable.

That's definitely may favorite part of the album and wish they had done more dreamy leads like that. It's very KNY (the latter half of the song feels a lot like Entombed, my favorite track off there), which is my favorite album since WP. Only problem is that I actually feel like it could have been even bigger. The second time they do it, they should've played a little with the line on the second run through, adding in some flourishes or even turning it into something approaching a solo to really mix it up. Could've been epic. But that's my problem with this album. Feels a lot like Tool's Fear Inoculum album, where it's a distillation of their sound, everything feels pretty safe and by the numbers. I kept waiting for a lot of these songs (and FI) to just take off at some point and blow me out of the water, but it never happens.

That's pretty interesting, I felt Deftones really expanded on this album, I really was entertained by it mostly. I felt that the Tool album lacked dynamics in sound, if you go back and listen to Tool's last album before the new one (10,000 Days) the dynamics on that one are crazy, listen to a song like Right In Two, or The pot, so many different sounds and shifts in dynamics in just one song, FI felt like one long boring song to me. Was super disappointed by the Tool album.

[from_musings]

There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.

frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had guest vocalists before white pony (max cavalera and annalyn cunningham)

[Draken]

There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.

frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had a guest vocalist before white pony (mx/atf)

I wouldn't call what Abe's wife did as a "guest vocalist", but yeah ATF had Max Cavalera on Headup.

[from_musings]

There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.

frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had a guest vocalist before white pony (mx/atf)

I wouldn't call what Abe's wife did as a "guest vocalist", but yeah ATF had Max Cavalera on Headup.

she wasn't a band member that's fore sure

[Sal_Ameigh]

There was a point they never had guest vocalists then you had White Pony. There was a point Frank was never in the band. Then they added Frank and expanded their sound.

frank did stuff on adrenaline and atf "to expand their sound". also: they had guest vocalists before white pony (max cavalera and annalyn cunningham)

Right about Max. But my point exactly about Frank. Frank wasn't a member when the band first started out when they initially played live in the club days. They expanded their sound by adding Frank. There's still room for the band to grow. If they wanted to. And without completely changing who they are. Like on the next album I wouldn't want Abe to play double bass on every song all throughout every song, Chino do Death Metal or Black type vocals, Sergio play slap bass, Stef add pinch harmonics at the end of every riff, etc.

That's pretty interesting, I felt Deftones really expanded on this album, I really was entertained by it mostly. I felt that the Tool album lacked dynamics in sound, if you go back and listen to Tool's last album before the new one (10,000 Days) the dynamics on that one are crazy, listen to a song like Right In Two, or The pot, so many different sounds and shifts in dynamics in just one song, FI felt like one long boring song to me. Was super disappointed by the Tool album.

Specifically how do you think Deftones expanded on this album compared to other albums? Frank being more involved? Stefs 9 string?

I actually really liked the last new Tool album and didn't think it sounded boring at all!

[E-Money]

Had to give the album a break.. hate to say it but I was loosing interest. Been having some personal issues and didn't want to associate this album with a bad time for me personally. Gave it a 3 week break and just listened to it again today.

I absolutely love the first 5 songs on this record. Was nice to get some chills again from them tonight. Second half is ok but still hasn't blown me away .

Error is my jam. Chino is gorgeous on it.

[Far away]

Been having some personal issues and didn’t want to associate this album with a bad time for me personally.

Hope things get better as soon as possible! I understand the feeling of trying to avoid associating something special to a bad phase or whatever.
Funny history (), I used to date this girl back in 2011 and she was big on Deftones too. The first time we had sex she asked me to leave them playing on the background and I said no. Til this day she has no clue why.
The thing is, as much as their songs are so fitting for sex, no way I'd use them as a background for it, with any girl. I also dont want to associate their songs with some drama bulshit or bad breakup.

Its weird, I know, but I love music THAT much. Sex is great, but I'd reather put some random crap I dont really pay attention to or care about.

Yeah, yeah, too much information, sorry... lol

[nineteen]

I can imagine the Jesus Christ bit of Pompeji on a song from Mellon Collie or something. It's just weirdly Pumpkins and cool.

[punkflop01]

Only just noticed those intense breathing noises that Chino makes at the end of This Link is Dead.  I find something new to love about this album every time I return to it!

[LG95]

This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones

Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.

[Draken]

That's so awesome to hear the demo! Thanks!

This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones

Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.

[Sleeping_Giant]

It would be great to hear more stuff like that, great episode

[punkflop01]

This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones

Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.

oh man thank you so much for this! Was a real treat. Would love to hear the band break down each song from the new album like this !

[mono]

This song breakdown from Chino on the title track is awesome https://songexploder.net/deftones

Includes clips from Stef's original demo and them jamming out the idea in the studio.

Amazing stuff, thanks a lot!!

[Penicks]

it's been a while since chino's been so eloquent. hardly any youknow or youknowwhatimeans