"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

[Martin]

Absolutely immersed in 'Ohms'. Such a good album. At loss for words. Ninth album and seventh album cycle I got to get into from the start (I got into the band when Around The Fur was out for a bit). So, so happy.

[Moz La Punk]

Very much into Error this weekend. Love how the track goes all spacey in the second half, reminds me of Entombed in that I can just drown in those sounds.

My fave track with Radiant

[sharinglungs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cftlFMtCZuI

[LG95]

UK people - this is on now

https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19

[Far away]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.

i do think he was more creative on the 6 string.

I kinda agree with you on that.

[Penicks]

UK people - this is on now

https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19

wonder if the radio received some instrumentals, ohms music playing in the intro

[LG95]

Interesting info that Chino wrote and recorded completely different vocal parts for Genesis ("more meandering"), then started over and wrote what's on the record.

[Shells]

UK people - this is on now

https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1310309035451846656?s=19

Argh I'd forgotten, thank god for the start from the beginning button!

[Far away]

Awesome takes from the band about each song. Tnx for the reminder, LG95!

[Shells]

This radio show is a proper Deftones treat, I recommend everyone go and listen!

[2MoreHours]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Sounds like the opinions of others is hurting your feelings.  They are just opinions.  You're entitled to feel differently.  You're not in the band.  Don't let it bother you so much.

[Roidragee]

Anyone know if the BBC radio deftones show will be re-uploaded on YouTube? Can't listen to it right now

[2MoreHours]

I think some of us have been wanting more from Stef for years because he flashed more potential in their earlier days.  I was listening to DE and KNY earlier today (as well as Ohms) and it finally hit me that he is what he is.  There aren't going to be anymore Around the Fur (album) type songs.  He likes to ride that low bass string now and has for the last 4 albums.  Nothing wrong with what he does but it's time for some of us to just lower our expectations when it comes to his writing.

[Far away]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Sounds like the opinions of others is hurting your feelings.  They are just opinions.  You're entitled to feel differently.  You're not in the band.  Don't let it bother you so much.

Hurt my feelings? Nah... I just find interesting how everyones an expert on the internet. 

[Sleeping_Giant]

Urantia at 2.17-2.22 - do I have a technical problem with my speakers or this weird sound is really there? What is it? Sounds like Chino is devouring his cereals

[Jesus2Chino]

I mean some people listen with their hearts, others with their heads, and others still somewhere in between; I think articulating what could have made the album stronger for you personally doesn't constitute bench musicianship. For example, I like the album a lot, more with every listen, but know I could have liked it even more with some small production tweaks. Does that mean I'm even 1% as talented of a producer as Terry Date? Heck no, haha--but that doesn't mean everything he touches is perfect and infallible, especially when subjectivity enters the arena. I think most people offering up criticism know they couldn't have personally done better, but that doesn't mean they can't hear something in their mind's ear that they wish would have been pressed onto record.

Anywho, just wanted to offer my two cents 'cause I think there's a difference between claiming to be an expert and offering criticism. I know where you're coming from though, and certainly there are people in this world who seem to want to dislike everything; I haven't been seeing much of that here, however, and people generally seem to either really like the album (plus or minus some small issues with it), or at least they seem like they really WANT to like the album, haha. Happy listening y'all!

[illthrowROCKS@U]

I'm trying really hard not to sound like a pathetic fanboy, but this album is more than I could have ever expected from the boys this late in their career. It may very well crack my top 3 by the time all is said and done, something I never thought possible.

I don't think the songs sound "simplistic" at all, in fact, I think this may just be their most experimental album to date, with a vast and disparate array of influences. Though none of the riffs are particularly complicated or difficult to play (they never have been), the sounds themselves and the composition and placement of those sounds are certainly far from mainstream or generic. And even more so once you combine that with the more prevalent keys and samples coming from Frank. I actually think this is quite the challenging record, from a listening standpoint, which is why I think you're seeing even the pretentious music community jump on board with this one.

[Visionz]

Did i say this record is ridiculously good? I got to thinking again about how most music especially this music for me, needs time to breath with every one of their records. I love em even more as time goes by. That being said proves to me at least, why its hard to compare to past ones and rate it anywhere in the discography. Bc ill most likely like it more than today.  It potentially could be my favorite at some point. Honest to god. Its top 3 for me already. I love em all equally though if that makes sense. But fuuuuuk this is a good record and i dont seem to tire from it like i did the last 3 quickly. I still listen to em casually but they were never this. Love OHMS

[Jesus2Chino]

Yeah, personally I think the writing is very solid on this album all around. What some people are referring to as lazy guitar, I hear as groovy. This album has a serious groove, especially from tracks 5-10, and what I love most about this album is how it feels like a complete piece of work rather than a collection of random tracks. The more I listen, the more individuality I get from each track as well, so I think they hit a great balance between having individual songs stand out just enough without feeling out of place.

I will say though that I imagine Stef's incredibly thick guitar tone, coupled with his low tunings, might be making it difficult for producers to find space for everyone else as far as goes mixing and mastering. From a style/writing standpoint I'm behind Stef on this album, but I think the band as a whole might benefit from him experimenting in C and B again with a 7 string. I don't want him to sacrifice tone to clear up sonic space on future records, 'cause to me his tone is very massive and very refined (i.e. I absolutely love it and imagine it was hard earned, haha), and I'm honestly along for the ride with whatever he wants to write, so tuning up and cutting a couple strings is just a quick and dirty solution that comes to mind. Obviously I'm not saying he needs to do this, and I'm not saying this is the only way forward, but I can see how it might be helpful for the band and producers when it comes to the ease of cutting more really dynamic records in the future.

But yes, to be clear, I think Stef did a great job on this record, along with everyone else, and I think the boys should be really proud of what they put out here!

[only pieces remain]

This record is incredible and exceeded my expectations. Ceremony is probably my favorite song they've done since white pony. At least s/t. The chorus/bridge drop back into the chorus gives me chills every time.

"So I'm leaving you tonight
It's not fun here anymore
I'll be joining the parade
Of the ghosts who came before"

And the track is short enough where it leaves you begging for more. Hell, the whole album is like that. Quickest 46 minutes every time. Wish they would've finished that 11th track.

Ceremony, Spell, and Pompeji are my top three but to me there's not a mediocre track on it.