"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

[2MoreHours]

After giving Ohms several listens (enough that it's all familiar now) I believe I can say it's kind of a mid-pack Deftones album.  While all the songs are pretty good, there are a few elements that could be better.  Steph rides the same note too often throughout the album and while heavy, some of the riffs seem lazy.  It's almost like he was thinking he has to play these live and doesn't want to have to think too hard.  Anyway, it's a good album as all Deftones albums are.  Here is how I rank their albums for now.  Diamond Eyes and Ohms could be flipped in my rankings.  They are very close.  I gave the nod to DE because Stephs riffs are a little better on that one with songs like Prince and Royal.

White Pony
SNW
Deftones
Around the Fur
Diamond Eyes
Ohms
KNY
Adrenaline
Gore

[kleptoned]

Im so glad I know nothing about production or lazy riffs or not enough snare etc. Its all subjective and I love this album just like all the other ones. Seems like some people here are nitpicking the shit out of it. Again glad Im a moron when it comes to the audiophile type shit so I can just enjoy it.. Wish I could rank all the albums and or songs but it all depends on my mood and whats going on around me .

[lungdamage]

Im so glad I know nothing about production or lazy riffs or not enough snare etc. Its all subjective and I love this album just like all the other ones. Seems like some people here are nitpicking the shit out of it. Again glad Im a moron when it comes to the audiophile type shit so I can just enjoy it.. Wish I could rank all the albums and or songs but it all depends on my mood and whats going on around me .

I think the snare is tuned a little low on purpose for the particular mix on this album.

[lungdamage]

I can't do that poll btw, I selected a song just so I could see the results

Do a poll where you can select your top three next It's too hard to choose damn it

Wow, not one person has chosen 'This Link is Dead' yet... I wasn't expecting that.

[Visionz]

I can't do that poll btw, I selected a song just so I could see the results

Do a poll where you can select your top three next It's too hard to choose damn it

Wow, not one person has chosen 'This Link is Dead' yet... I wasn't expecting that.

Today, its probably my least fav Deftones track, diwn there with PBride n Sextape for me. Hope it changes but its just cheesy to me

[Visionz]

Love Radiant...  its like left out parts from ATF and ST to my ears.  Whole record is really starting to feel a type of way for me and i really really enjoy the hell out of it. Going into Headless for about the 10th time right now.... great intro. Cant determine if its the opening of an old creaky door effect or Chino making that throaty sound during the intro. That 2 seconds is fucking cool bc idk and it goes with it so well. If that makes sense

[Far away]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

[Visionz]

How about right before Chino sings "were miles beyond the sound!" for the last time at the very end of that last chorus how Stephs guitar climbs like that with Chino's voice in those few seconds?! FUCKING POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL.....like PERFECT

As he's singing "were floating thru the ether"...its right at ether his guitar just screams

[Visionz]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

[Shadow46/2]

Spell, Radiant, Urantia, and ESPECIALLY Headless. Wow that track is beautiful.

[Far away]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.

[Sunbath]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but. c'mon.

And they just released their most compex record ever 

[funksk8er]

Anyone else's exclusive vinyl from deftonesmerch still stuck in pre-transit?

[Hidalgo]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.

yea i think people are waiting on Stephen to finally break out and write complex riffs and bust out his first true deftones solo since "answers", and write more complex things, but he's not gonna do it, ever. he's even said he doesn't practice or ever pick his guitar up. he doesn't care, at all about improving. he's the weakest link skill wise in the band. but he's good at writing solid stuff that sounds good,  and he's consistent, and Chino makes it shine. this band is really about the unique singer. Chino and Abe are the most talented in the band by miles

his most complex riffs on the new album is on Ohms(song) i'm pretty sure. that whole song has great riffs, but the beginning and ending riffs are fairly complex

fun fact, some Stephen solos are on: Sol Invicto "unidose" , "answers"(demo), dallas (eros demo), "i feel fine" butchering the beatles. (then the sorta almost solo in the hearts/wires intro he did). he's shown he can solo to some degree, but 0 willingness whatsoever to put one on a deftones record. super shy to do it? or maybe it would actually kill him, someone has told him they'll kill him if he does, lolz. we could be nice and just count the hearts/wires intro as his first album solo. but i'm pretty mean, so i dunno

and this youtube video 42 sec mark, he solos just goofing around. he could easily slap something like this in the middle or end of a deftones song, but refuses. lol. i never expect it to happen, he'd have done it by now. he's not gonna write too many cky style riffs either (like Ohms), he's set in his way, and everyone knows what to expect from him by now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1shwyyJjQ

https://soundcloud.com/solinvicto/sol-invicto-tapes-unidose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bic3UBXnW8
1:15 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpfu3NfKNHA
56 sec mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx75JmBFrvk
3:33 mark

[Far away]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Ignore em, its easy. Plenty of good conversation otherwise.. the musicians cant help themselves i guess

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

Seems like they want to find a reason to not like it. Ok, I guess. Its not like they HAVE to like it.
But, what I just find very odd is the fact they want something Deftones usually never do. Complex shit. And by complex, I mean riff wise. They might have some, but c'mon.

yea i think people are waiting on Stephen to finally break out and write complex riffs and bust out his first true solo since "answers", but he's not gonna do it, ever. he's even said he doesn't practice or ever pick his guitar up. he doesn't care, at all about improving. he's the weakest link skill wise in the band. but he's good at writing solid stuff that sounds good, and Chino makes it shine. Chino and Abe are the most talented in the band by miles

his most complex riffs on the new album is on Ohms(song) i'm pretty sure. that whole song has great riffs, but the beginning and ending riffs are fairly complex

fun fact, some Stephen solos are on: Sol Invicto "unidose" (not on youtube anymore), "answers"(demo), dallas (eros demo), "i feel fine" butchering the beatles. (then the sorta almost solo in the hearts/wires intro he did). he's shown he can solo to some degree, but 0 willingness whatsoever to put one on a deftones record. super shy to do it? or maybe it would actually kill him, someone has told him they'll kill him if he does, lolz. we could be nice and just count the hearts/wires intro as his first album solo. but i'm pretty mean, so i dunno

and this youtube video 42 sec mark, he solos just goofing around. he could easily slap something like this in the middle or end of a deftones song, but refuses. lol. i never expect it to happen, he'd have done it by now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1shwyyJjQ

Exactly. And Im pretty sure most people in here are not new to the band, so, complaining about something they never bothered to do, is weird.

[LG95]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.

[Hidalgo]

look at The Spell of Mathematics dominating the poll. havent' listened to the album in a few days, waiting on the real cd to come in the mail in a few days(29th, freaking slow pokes)

update: ok i caved, listening to it again now. didn't wanna wait another 2 days

[nineteen]

I think my favourite track is Error at the moment. Love the intro riff, especially when it goes to the low note....and when Chino and Abe come in on the first and second verses.....

"Shiny Candy, Glowing Fruits" - love it

[from_musings]

This link is dead.Lost count of how many times i've fapped to this song.

[Hidalgo]

Are (some) people complaining about the lack of complexity in a Deftones song? Really?
Stef is not Steve Vai or Kirk Hammet. They have plenty of amazing songs that have like 3 chords, yet, they are very dinamic and have their fingerprint all over it. Why start complaining now? Its not like hes going to, suddenly, start playing complex shit.

Yes, they have a good amount of songs using the same notes/chords/harmonics rearranged in a different order or whatever. Still, most of their songs do not sound the same, at all. Maybe a couple.

A bunch of 'Im a weekend musician so they should do this, or that, to make the song better', really pisses me off.

Get over it.

I get it though. I don't think people are expecting him to start shredding, just write parts that lead the song rather than add texture. I think it's just the way they write now - because of Chino and Sergio's songwriting contributions and the collaborative way it works, Stef's role is often adding muscle to a song with little flourishes. It's not like Around The Fur where Stef was writing the riffs and then everyone worked off that.

i do think he was more creative on the 6 string. interesting that Ohms is basically a 6 string song, and it's my fav riffs from the album. go back to 6 Steffy