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"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

Started by Drop-Dead, Aug 20, 2020, 01:29 PM

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Visionz

Radiant's chorus is growing on me. Cant seem to grab onto the schizo-riff throughout though.

buflen

Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live

I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.

Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.

B_S_79

Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live

I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.

Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.

Maybe. I think that's partially true. I think they didn't rehearse them because they didn't really like the songs. They pretty much played all of them live at some point, except for Xenon and Pittura.

I've seen them so many times that any sort of deep cut or something I've never heard them play live is always welcomed. Geometric Headdress is on my wish list, although I doubt that will ever happen for me.

buflen

#3083
It's very difficult for a band with so many albums to make a setlist that'll make most people happy.

First time I saw them live, I was disapointed they wasted their time playing "Teenager". I liked the song but i didnt care about seeing it live. I was a dumb teenager.

ANattyRat

Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:48 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 24, 2020, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Ianldiotaiuti on Sep 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
one thing that no one said is that all of these new songs will sound extremely good live

I was just thinking that. They will sound amazing live.

Let's hope they play them. I've seen them enough to know that sometimes they skimp on the newer material for the album that they are touring. It was pretty extreme the second time I saw them for the Gore tour cycle. I think they played Phantom Bride and that was it.
maybe they realised none of those songs were fan favorites and had luke warm reactions so they decided to not play them. Usually bands play too much newer stuff and ignore the older deep cuts. But with Ohms, I wouldn't mind them playing all the songs.

Maybe. I think that's partially true. I think they didn't rehearse them because they didn't really like the songs. They pretty much played all of them live at some point, except for Xenon and Pittura.

I've seen them so many times that any sort of deep cut or something I've never heard them play live is always welcomed. Geometric Headdress is on my wish list, although I doubt that will ever happen for me.

When I saw them on their Gore tour, they'd been switching up between two different setlists and alternating on each day. The one that was the day before mine they played Geometric Headdress, my favourite at the time, we got Phantom Bride. Which, don't get me wrong, sounded amazing, but damn. And (L)MIRL, my other favourite, they'd only recently stopped playing live. I was kind of bitter about it lol. They played a few SNW songs on the alternate setlist that I missed too, and Teething and Hexagram I believe. I love the band and I've never been disappointed by a live show, but expecting them to play some new songs or songs you've not heard them play much and they mostly play DE songs was just...unjust haha.

Visionz


Inkblades

This Link Is Dead is growing on me a lot. It's a banger.

LG95

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 24, 2020, 03:59 PM
This Link Is Dead is growing on me a lot. It's a banger.
It took me a couple of listens to adjust to it too because Ceremony-Urantia-Error-TSOM-Pompeji was such a beautiful run. It's got me now.
I could float here forever

Moz La Punk

#3088
Listened to it in full five times now and my opinion is slowly but surely crystalizing. Still very happy with it!

I think the chorus of Radiant City remains my favorite part of the record. Its sooooo good for my soul, I cant explain it. Almost all songs are firmly stuck in my head now and I love em. Even Pompeji grew on me entirely. I had some problems with Error the first few runs as well but its getting much much better.

The only song Im still not entirely set on, is Headless. I love the groovy sounds, but Chino's singing reminds me a bit too much of Gore - not that I hate that record but you know what I mean. It feels a bit 'aimless' for me, but that could also be because I just havent 'learned' the strange sonic loundscape of it yet. So we'll see how it'll end up.

For now Im still very positive the record is in the top half of the discography for me. This is in no way final - actually it never is - but if you'd put a gun on my head and I had to make a list, it would probably go like this:

White Pony
Diamond Eyes
Ohms
Koi No Yokan
Around the Fur
Self Titled / SNW (tied)
Gore
Adrenaline

Everything from White Pony to (and including) ATF is god-tier for me. Like ultimate classic and above the best works of most other bands I listen to. So that should tell you something.

Which reminds me that I really have to try and learn to appreciate Adrenaline more. Ive listened to it plenty but somehow never really got it (I got into deftones during ATF-days). I want to like it more, we'll see how that goes after the hype for Ohms has settled.


Edit: one other thing I wanted to mention - I'm so glad we have another 'heavy' Deftones record in the discography. Its not straight up metal or anything, and stuff like White Pony is my favorite shit, but Im just glad there's another record besides ATF that I can blast through my speakers when I really want some heavy Deftones stuff. That's very cool.

endstand

So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
hello memory lover, you are mine

buflen

Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.
Hey, my opinion is the complete opposite. This album makes Gore sound even worse.

Moz La Punk

Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.

Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?

nicklav

Outside of Acid Hologram I don't really see myself returning to Gore that often ever again.

LG95

He could mean Gore now makes more sense to him.
I could float here forever

buflen

Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.

Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?
I could easily see people being turned off by most of the vocal melodies on this album. And chino's screaming can hurt your ears. And some riffs are "simple". That's the negative I could see. But my biggest complaint of Gore has been fixed, which is the horrible mixing/production.

feedthegod

#3095
I'm not a huge fan of Gore. Had it come out as a Chino side-project, I'd probably like it more, lol. That said, Ohms makes you realize how bad and disconnected it really was. The feel of the album is very upbeat. Obviously you can probably attribute that to the Abe, Stef, and Chino writing together, in-person, like the old days. This album definitely has a case of the feelies. :D


I want to know if this was recorded with the AXE-FX III or tubed amps. I saw someone here or somewhere that said the album was recorded with heads this time. The guitars are a little over produced or it's the AXF3. It's a bit sterile feeling. Hard to explain.

FatherUppercut

Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.

Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?

The Gore era is over, and I can take about 4 of 5 good songs from it into the Ohms era. I'll call it a W. If I take 4 or 5 songs from the Ohms era when its all said and done, I'll call it a really good Gorhomes EP and be on to the next thing

LG95

I still like Gore. It's a good record.

This is much better.
I could float here forever

buflen

Quote from: FatherUppercut on Sep 24, 2020, 04:24 PM
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 04:18 PM
Quote from: endstand on Sep 24, 2020, 04:13 PM
So after listening to new album, GORE seems not that bad as an album.

Lol. This has been a staple of many deftones fans for a long time. New record comes out, previous 'bad' record is suddenly okay. You do you man, but could you explain in more detail what you dislike about Ohms?

The Gore era is over, and I can take about 4 of 5 good songs from it into the Ohms era. I'll call it a W. If I take 4 or 5 songs from the Ohms era when its all said and done, I'll call it a really good Gorhomes EP and be on to the next thing
What? I don't understand what you just said at all.

Inkblades

If Terry produced Gore, it would be as good (or, bit of a hot take here, perhaps even better) than Ohms.