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"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

Started by Drop-Dead, Aug 20, 2020, 01:29 PM

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secretbandinsider

'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'

Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.

Sleeping_Giant

This is the first time I don't skip any song since SNW...Most of you said you hear some ATF/ST/KNY vibes. Maybe it's true, but for me they somehow redefined themselves - it's like completely different Deftones. And I like it a lot.

nick310

I've seen some people mention things about there being a lack of a ballad type song, but to be honest, I think there's enough melody in the songs that it almost cancels it out.

With most of their material, it was usually either a strictly heavy, or strictly soft song, yeah? With Ohms, it still feels like there's that good balance of heavy and soft, despite most of the songs having heavier roots to them.

secretbandinsider

If Pompeji was the 'ballad' track I think I'd bump the album up to a 9

Playhouse

This link is dead is easily his most aggressive vocal since RATS
You're a star, You blaze

B_S_79

Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 09:53 PM
'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'

Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.

I said (L)MIRL explains my point.

Far away

Quote from: B_S_79 on Sep 23, 2020, 10:07 PM
Quote from: secretbandinsider on Sep 23, 2020, 09:53 PM
'Some songs aren't songs, just cut and pasted riffs'

Can you give examples? You can kind of say that about anything.

I said (L)MIRL explains my point.

Its weird how the mind works. (L)MIRL is one of my fav 'Gore' songs.

LG95

Quote from: nick310 on Sep 23, 2020, 10:04 PM
I've seen some people mention things about there being a lack of a ballad type song, but to be honest, I think there's enough melody in the songs that it almost cancels it out.
Yeah that's people having stylistic expectations again. Judge an album for what it is rather than what you want/expect it to be.

To be fair I haven't really seen many people doing that on here.
I could float here forever

Playhouse

Also love the faster tempo of Error.
I'd be dancing my shit off to this in the crowd.
I guess in my dreams for now and the foreseeable future  :o



You're a star, You blaze

ANattyRat

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
I can't rank everything, but I think This Link Is Dead is my least favorite as of right now. It's like they are trying to do a throwback sound but it sounds a little silly and repetitive to me. Like fake angst. Dig Frank's synths on it, though.

All the other songs are good to great.

Maybe fake angst but I do love Chino's screams on that song. It's funny because it's the heaviest vocal-wise, but by no means is it the heaviest musically.

I never would've guessed that Ceremony and Urantia end up being my (first) favourites for the album. They kind of got quiet praise on reviews that mentioned them, so it was easy to have no expectations. Pompeji grew on me after my third listen and now I love it for what it is (I don't know why, but I was expecting it to be similar to (L)MIRL in tone, but with an oceany soundscape???). Ohms has grown on me too, it's high up there now in song ranking for me.

Genuinely don't get the hyped up love for The Spell of Mathematics lol I was the same with Rubicon with Gore. I mean I love the whole album, so it's not that I view it negatively, it just doesn't seem like as mind-blowing a song as others on the album. What makes you guys love it so much? If it's something you can put into words, of course.

secretbandinsider

Agree that Ceremony and Urantia have sneakily become some of my go-to tracks. As for TSOM... It's just a perfectly mixed deluge of sound to soak in, I don't know how else to put it. Just jam it some more :)

Visionz

"Youre on your fucking own 3X,  IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.

Frankz0r

According to Tidal, Chino plays guitar on the whole album. That's crazy

Matthewtheloser

Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:05 PM
"Youre on your fucking own 3X,  IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
I don't think it has anything to do with the fans directly. But I guess there could multiple levels to the interpretation as with a lot of Chino's lyrics

Frankz0r

Quote from: Matthewtheloser on Sep 23, 2020, 11:21 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 23, 2020, 11:05 PM
"Youre on your fucking own 3X,  IM SURE IMSURE OOOOOH"
- TLID. Hate this song. Maybe as i dissect it over time ill get into it but i hate that hes actually writing a letter to us.
I don't think it has anything to do with the fans directly. But I guess there could multiple levels to the interpretation as with a lot of Chino's lyrics

how come that is a letter to us? I havent even read the lyrics

Far away

A letter to us, fans? Dont you guys think you are reading way too much into this?

ireallywish

agreed, if anything I get more of a relationship breakup vibe. but then in the interviews chino has mentioned things being obscure and ambiguous
so it's probably not meant to be taken any one way specifically

Visionz

Just a first listen opinion

film_maker

It sounds fuller and more cohesive/energetic than Gore from a production standpoint, but the guitar stuff sometimes lack some effort  (Gore had the same problem)....some arrangements sounds too simple for my taste. Its all 0-1-0-1 riffs, slid octaves (like the chorus of Genesis) and hanging chords (like the choruses of Urantia, Error and Radiant City). Some songs really lack some hooks too, and don't really have memorable ideas that gets stuck in your head (Pompeji/TLID).

That being said, TSOM it's by far my favorite song of the album and maybe one of the best of their carrer, and I'm glad Frank synths are more pronounced this time. The A side of the album is nice, but the second half of the record it's somewhat lackluster. I'm waiting for a proper quality sounding rip or official stream to hear the way it truly sounds, and have a better evaluation about it. I'm happy about the record, but some of the guitars I feel were written with little effort. and putting a bunch of layers of synths and effects on top of it won't save a song.

Visionz

Listen, I have never been someone to say any music should sound like anything including this band. But there are a lot and a lot of people who do and it's just what I felt the first time listening to it. So many expectations and people throwing their pointless ideas at him because he's going to do what he's going to do is the vibe I get. I've listen to this Again and I like the song better but I can't get the idea out of my head just yet. Chino will never tell us what it's about because that's not what he does. So it's just something I said and not to cause a big stir. Man we are lucky today! It is a good fucking album