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"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

Started by Drop-Dead, Aug 20, 2020, 01:29 PM

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buflen

Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
Tons of albums leak early these days. New Manson was 10 days.

Fit for a king was 10 days as well. I think.

It'll happen within the next week.
I'd say it will leak at least of the 25th.

buflen

I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?

imbrie

#1282
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?


Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a

buflen

#1283
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?


Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a

"Sorry, Qobuz is not available in your country."

I guess I'll go with HDTracks?

imbrie

Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:23 PM
Quote from: imbrie on Sep 14, 2020, 02:17 PM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
I want to listen to the new album with the best quality possible, without buying a vinyl (I don't have or plan to have the equipment), or a cd (which is rarely of good quality anyway), at least for the first few listens. What are the best legal options?


Qobuz 24-bit 96 kHz:
https://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/ohms-deftones/c6w11gh7itf3a

"Sorry, Qobuz is not available in your country."

I guess I'll go with HDTracks?


Yeah or 7 Digital.

Visionz

Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo

sharinglungs

This album will 100% not be their softest record, not will it be soft.


Big Boss

Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 03:24 PM
Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo

Yeah that was me. I've since humbly been put in my place. Carry on sir!

Visionz

#1288
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 14, 2020, 03:39 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 03:24 PM
Someone mentioned I think in one of the other topics that they think this might be one of the softer records if not the softest record by what they've been hearing. But when Chino rated or discussed all the albums he mentioned that it has a lot of energy this time around and didn't rule out that it wasn't heavy he just said it's subjective. That interest me and I think with that being said and having Terry back on board and everybody Really getting along and being stoked about making records again, at least us hard-core fans and maybe the masses will love this record. Like I said before I have a great feeling about it and I won't eat my words. I've been digging a little for interviews and articles about what Chino has to say before an album drops and he just seems more confident and excited this time around..... I am toooooooooo

Yeah that was me. I've since humbly been put in my place. Carry on sir!

;) All good bud. Just wanted to stoke the fire a little around here. This couldnt happen at a better time! Summer's about over here in eastern NC USA and with the pandemic and the civil unrest and the looming presidential choice coming up where we pick the better of two evils, I/we all have had a strange year and we need some new Deftones! And its really looking like we wont be dissapointed. I pray its a banger and has those legs their earlier stuff has. Something we all still talk about proudly 10-20 yrs from now. 

Inkblades

#1289
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

imbrie

Word! Less than 2 weeks guys.

Big Boss

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Overall they are generally balanced. But S/T for example skews heavy. DE skews heavy. KNY is most balanced to me. Gore skews fairly light  although not like, soft soft. My hope is that Ohms skews heavy. Just a tad is fine. Doesn't have to be relentless.

Visionz

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

Visionz

I would love a record that I play right through beginning to end every time I listen to it. Most of their records are like that for me but the last three for me have gems on them but a lot of tracks I don't even listen to. I imagine some of us feel that way

Nail

Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I think having Terry back will help take care of that
Men talk of killing time while time quietly kills them.

Sleeping_Giant

Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped   8)

Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.

Visionz

Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped   8)

Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.

Me too

Yossarian

Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped   8)

Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.

There are people considering Gore an impressive album  8)
"Something in our music that has a little provocative kind of vibe to it. And I feel like that exists in our music for some reason. I don't know where it comes from."

illthrowROCKS@U

Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 14, 2020, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped   8)

Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.

There are people considering Gore an impressive album  8)

According to Metacritic, it's their second highest rated album after KNY. In fact, their three highest rated albums according to Metacritic are their last three releases. Everyone put your own personal opinions on these albums relative to the rest of their discography aside for a moment, lets all just appreciate how impressive that is for a band as old as Deftones.

In any case, Gore impressed a lot of people out there. It's not popular among longer time Deftones fans because it's so different compared to the rest of their work, but believe it or not I've spoken to lots of people who love the album, or only know that album from Deftones, or told me it was the album that got them into Deftones, etc. This is mostly coming from the younger Millennial and older Gen Z "pretentious music fan" crowd. So keep in mind, Gore wasn't universally reviled, even though it may seem this way in our own personal circles.
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mandalay

Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Sep 14, 2020, 09:15 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 14, 2020, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 14, 2020, 05:50 PM
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 14, 2020, 05:45 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
Ohms will be a balance of heavy and melodic just like all Deftones albums. Even if Chino doesn't scream on a particular song, Stephen will still likely bring a heavy riff. That's kind of their thing.

Of course. But theres a slightly different "magic" that was more present on some albums than others i think and im hoping i can identify that this time around

I saw the same comments right before KNY/Gore were dropped   8)

Gore had really impresive reviews before the release, so this place was mad. I think this time it's different.

There are people considering Gore an impressive album  8)

According to Metacritic, it's their second highest rated album after KNY. In fact, their three highest rated albums according to Metacritic are their last three releases. Everyone put your own personal opinions on these albums relative to the rest of their discography aside for a moment, lets all just appreciate how impressive that is for a band as old as Deftones.

In any case, Gore impressed a lot of people out there. It's not popular among longer time Deftones fans because it's so different compared to the rest of their work, but believe it or not I've spoken to lots of people who love the album, or only know that album from Deftones, or told me it was the album that got them into Deftones, etc. This is mostly coming from the younger Millennial and older Gen Z "pretentious music fan" crowd. So keep in mind, Gore wasn't universally reviled, even though it may seem this way in our own personal circles.
There are a few reasons to not place a lot of weight into Metacritic scores of the albums: 1.) their scores are weighted averages with more weight given to certain reviewers, so it's not a true average score, 2.) Deftones, in outlasting their peers and maintaining credibility, have achieved far more respect from the critic community for a variety reasons beyond the output of their music, which in turn shapes the reception of their albums by critics (see also Mogwai, Twilight Singers, etc.), and 3.) far more reviews exist today thanks to the internet than during their earlier era, which again create an apples/oranges scenario that precludes a fair comparison of Metacritic scores, especially between works spread across multiple decades.  It's intellectually dishonest to say the scores can be compared in any raw way from Metacritic without adjusting and normalizing the data to account for these factors.  And beyond all of this the fact that Gore is an "81" compared to "72" for White Pony should tell you all you need regarding the reliability of these scores and how they relate to the artistic value of the underlying work.