Ohms: pre-release hype thread

[Inkblades]

All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

I'd be more than happy with a better-produced continuation of Gore, because my issues with it are not with the songwriting. The songwriting is mostly solid and some of the best of the Sergio era IMO (it's really a shame the mix wasn't always up to par). However, I have to disagree that will happen for two reasons. One, the sound and style of the music always changes every album (somewhat off topic, but it's why I don't believe those who say Eros just sounded like Saturday Night Wrist 2 - Smile sounds NOTHING like any of SNW). Two, some of the negative fan reception, all the hoopla about Stephen not being enamored with creating it and Deftones even posting a picture of flamingos hovering around trash pretty much guarantees they will go in a different direction and likely even a wildly different direction.

As for the return of Terry, I get what you're saying. Expectations are a motherfucker and can definitely lead to disappointment. It would also be silly to expect an album that's going to magically transport us back to the late 90's or early 00's. Truth is, yes, we probably won't get an album that's as heavy-hitting as Around the Fur was or as much of a game-changer as White Pony was. I'm simply looking for an album that has exploratory songwriting and consistent production - and, yes, maybe the best album of the Sergio era. My expectations are high but not out of the stratosphere.

Also, it is Deftones releasing a new album. It's hard not to get hyped up lol. I get hyped up on every album release. This band has always been like a drug to me, so when I find out the producer of my three favorite albums is returning, it's like the dealer telling me it's the purest, most uncut cocaine he has gotten in seventeen years. That's if I were into cocaine. I'm not.

[Climhazzard]

"That's if I were into cocaine. I'm not."

Yeah! ....Me either! Cocaine bad 

[Lincblade]

I highly doubt anyone wants that.

I mean, I wouldn't hate it. I'd prefer that to an Around The Fur 2 attempt in 2020

What I meant is I highly doubt anyone wants a repeat of My Own Summer or 7 Words.

As for me, all that matters in the end is they make music they enjoy playing. I don't expect or want an old style with Terry. I just know that it will be produced to the best of its potential, unlike Gore. This band deserves that much. Heavy or soft doesn't really matter.

I agree with this except for one point. Well kind of one point. Your point about heavy or soft doesn't really matter. To me it does. At least a little. They do both very well. And both are essential to what they do. But for me, I've gotta have some songs with teeth. Nothing crazy. Gore had just enough. Doesn't have to be a sequel to their older stuff. But I also feel as though they should do whatever represents who they are today. If that's a significantly softer record, then so be it. I'll have to accept it. I'd be a little disappointed. But I'd respect it.

[Gaz]

Lets' not kid ourselves, it isn't going to be White Pony Version 2 etc. But with Terry on board the sound and production HAS to be improved

Getting hyped up is all part of the expectation of a new album, don't get me wrong I'm not expecting anything ground breaking as I've said, but I'm excited to hear what they put out, it will be a typical Deftones album, heavy songs, soft songs etc. it's how they roll

[laurapalmer]

I highly doubt anyone wants that.

I mean, I wouldn't hate it. I'd prefer that to an Around The Fur 2 attempt in 2020

What I meant is I highly doubt anyone wants a repeat of My Own Summer or 7 Words.

As for me, all that matters in the end is they make music they enjoy playing. I don't expect or want an old style with Terry. I just know that it will be produced to the best of its potential, unlike Gore. This band deserves that much. Heavy or soft doesn't really matter.

100% agree

[Inkblades]

Beware and Rapture both debuted at Taste of Chaos 2006. Rocket Skates also debuted at a festival if I'm not mistaken.

EDIT: Rocket Skates debuted when they opened for Slipknot in 2009.

[Inkblades]

Don't think it's gonna happen. A recent post with Stef's rig had an advance setlist, nothing new on it. Besides they never premiered material outside of North America.

Link por favor?

And another song that debuted at a festival was Korea at Ozzfest '99.

[Gaz]

I guess if they are in the mood to play a new song they will do, like when they throw some surprises into the set

[DeftonesNZ]

I'm going to the Auckland show, hopefully we'll get a teaser of something new

[endstand]

What is a private show?

[Inkblades]

Also, I'm still holding out hope they incorporate a new song into their setlist when they start touring in March, though I'm not sure if they would do that during a festival run. Historically, have they premiered songs during festivals? Or is it usually during their own headline shows?

Adrenaline material was debuted way before its release, as those demos had been written way before they were even considered for a contract.
ATF material was debuted prior to the album release, a whole 5-6 months in fact, at headline shows. The songs were not finished though.
WP material, the intro of Pink Maggit was first played in 1998 on a headline tour. Korea was played in 1999 at Ozzfest, a touring festival as opposed to a 2-3 day festival.
S/T material was first played on a headline tour a pair of weeks before the album dropped.
SNW material was first played almost 10 months prior to the album release. on the Taste of Chaos tour. Not sure that counts as a festival.
DE material was first played in 2009, on their opening slot on the Slipknot tour, about 7 months before the album release.
KNY material (Rosemary) was first played at private show in Burbank, about 4 months before the release.
Gore material was performed about a month before the release, at a festival.


I wouldn't take this info into account for speculation. All of these occurrences were in North America, and they're touring Oceania next month. Also, given how they're taking their time with this record and how they want to make it right, they might hold off on premiering new material pre-release altogether. Here's to hoping I'm completely wrong. After all, they are starting that tour with a headline date in Auckland.

Don't think it's gonna happen. A recent post with Stef's rig had an advance setlist, nothing new on it. Besides they never premiered material outside of North America.

Link por favor?

Here's the pic (do not look at it if you don't want to know what they're gonna play)

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

Thanks man, nice post. Pretty good setlist, although I really wish they would stop playing Diamond Eyes and make Hole in the Earth or Prayers/Triangles a set staple instead. Both are infinitely better songs.

[Inkblades]

Hmm, it says it will drop right around the 20th anniversary of White Pony. Yeah, I thought the fall thing seemed a little off. May or June, maybe July, is my bet and I'm sticking to it.

[illthrowROCKS@U]

New interview with Frank dropped, he said "I think it's coming out in the near future... I know it will".

He also hinted at the possibility of an WP anniversary set.

White Pony in full live would be amazing.

[Inkblades]

It would be, plus they have to. A lot of bands with albums a lot less influential than White Pony have been doing anniversary concerts.

[Inkblades]

https://www.beat.com.au/chino-moreno-reflects-on-the-past-present-and-future-of-deftones/

Chino says he wants to play a new song at Download. If so, that would put a release on track for late spring/summer, I think.

He also says the new album is more "upbeat" than Gore. Take that how you will lol.

He touches on Eros a little bit too, but it's basically what he's always been saying. It's at the point where I'm getting sick of interviewers asking about it, so I can only imagine how he feels.

[Gaz]

https://www.beat.com.au/chino-moreno-reflects-on-the-past-present-and-future-of-deftones/

Chino says he wants to play a new song at Download. If so, that would put a release on track for late spring/summer, I think.

He also says the new album is more "upbeat" than Gore. Take that how you will lol.

He touches on Eros a little bit too, but it's basically what he's always been saying. It's at the point where I'm getting sick of interviewers asking about it, so I can only imagine how he feels.

Sounds to me like he is bored of talking about Eros, I don't blame him to be honest, if it's unfinished and unpolished, to the band it probably doesn't seem worthy of a release

[Penicks]

CHONGI MARENA WHEN U PLAY EROS IN BRAZIL?

[Inkblades]

https://www.beat.com.au/chino-moreno-reflects-on-the-past-present-and-future-of-deftones/

Chino says he wants to play a new song at Download. If so, that would put a release on track for late spring/summer, I think.

He also says the new album is more "upbeat" than Gore. Take that how you will lol.

He touches on Eros a little bit too, but it's basically what he's always been saying. It's at the point where I'm getting sick of interviewers asking about it, so I can only imagine how he feels.

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Sounds to me like he is bored of talking about Eros, I don't blame him to be honest, if it's unfinished and unpolished, to the band it probably doesn't seem worthy of a release

Yeah, when the band is in their twilight years, maybe they'll revisit it. Until then, it's kind of a moot point.

CHONGI MARENA WHEN U PLAY EROS IN BRAZIL?

[RaptureWS]

https://www.beat.com.au/chino-moreno-reflects-on-the-past-present-and-future-of-deftones/

Chino says he wants to play a new song at Download. If so, that would put a release on track for late spring/summer, I think.

Awesome! I was really hoping they would start playing a new track! Though it says he "wants" to, not that they will. Hopefully there are no issues and they get to give it a go!

[Gaz]

https://www.beat.com.au/chino-moreno-reflects-on-the-past-present-and-future-of-deftones/

Chino says he wants to play a new song at Download. If so, that would put a release on track for late spring/summer, I think.

He also says the new album is more "upbeat" than Gore. Take that how you will lol.

He touches on Eros a little bit too, but it's basically what he's always been saying. It's at the point where I'm getting sick of interviewers asking about it, so I can only imagine how he feels.

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Sounds to me like he is bored of talking about Eros, I don't blame him to be honest, if it's unfinished and unpolished, to the band it probably doesn't seem worthy of a release

Yeah, when the band is in their twilight years, maybe they'll revisit it. Until then, it's kind of a moot point.

CHONGI MARENA WHEN U PLAY EROS IN BRAZIL?

Always good to keep some mystique surrounding the band for their twilight years for sure