Ohms: pre-release hype thread

[Inkblades]

So what are you looking for from a new deftones album, what do you guys expect? Which songs and ideas did you like the most from the last album?
even though the mixing of Gore was atrocious, the album as a whole was much more captivating than DE and KYN (imo ofc). I just hope they'll improve their songwriting, I don't know what it is, but in some songs the pop structure seems way more obvious than others (Prayers / Triangles) and it kills the replay value.
And I don't give up on interludes, I still love the idea!

The single biggest thing I'm looking for is for all of the songs to fit together and form a complete work as opposed to just being a group of random songs. All of their albums are pretty consistent in that regard, but some more than others. Some of the non-Terry albums feel like the songs don't always fit together (SNW and KNY, in particular) and it's one of the reasons I'm so happy Terry is back. I really think he will help them reach that.

As far as the overall sound they are going for, I definitely want something somewhere between dark, spacey, sad and beautiful. I'd definitely love to see them explore more of the futuristic space rock side that they've dabbled with on Minerva, HITE, Xerces, Combat, 976, Acid Hologram, Rubicon, etc. I'm always up for some experimental. Crazier song structures, definitely - and maybe even a few that don't have traditional choruses.

I also don't mind if the album isn't super heavy because let's be honest, this isn't a band of 20-somethings anymore. Of course, I still welcome heavier stuff if they are offering it up. It is a Deftones album, of course. Rumor is the album is heavier than Gore, so we'll see.

And it's a must that Abe and Frank are audible in the mix.

EDIT: Would love a song or two with some piano, too.

[cEvin Key]

So what are you looking for from a new Deftones album, what do you guys expect? Which songs and ideas did you like the most from the last album?
even though the mixing of Gore was atrocious, the album as a whole was much more captivating than DE and KYN (imo ofc). I just hope they'll improve their songwriting, I don't know what it is, but in some songs the pop structure seems way more obvious than others (Prayers / Triangles) and it kills the replay value.
And I don't give up on interludes, I still love the idea!

Personally I feel like since White Pony they have been repeating the same formula, there's a bit of variation and they have gone on a more pop direction but there isn't a drastic change of sound or any surprises.
I wish they would completely change what they are doing and would come out with a refreshing sound. Personally I would like something heavier in mood and also a lot more experimental but still with some beautiful dreamy and epic parts, but mostly with a dark and heavy feel. Definitely more Steph, Frank, and Abe. Given that the band has been known for mixing heavy and melodic I would like if they would explore a post-metal type of sound and if they would intense fast drumming in a few songs, a lot more synths and that Steph would write more than 2 or 3 riffs per song. I would also appreciate if Chino would play around with his vocal style, do more rhythmic stuff(no rap thou), more screaming(not all the time thou) and change the type of melodies he uses. Maybe some prog elements(I might be asking to much here). I would genuinely like it if they would do something a bit more ambitious, experimental, heavy and some nice surprises and curveballs. A song featuring Robert Smith on both vocals and guitar would be awesome.I also hope they ditch the pop elements.

In the end, I think they are going to end up coming out with more of the same, It's probably going to be an interesting album with some cool stuff going on but nothing groundbreaking.
Still, I have a little bit of hope that they might give us one really great surprise.

[Gaz]

I'm hoping for better production more than anything. Diamond Eyes really grew on me over time, as did KNY, Gore had some OK songs, but quite a lot of passable ones

I'm not expecting anything ground breaking, but want it to be progression from Gore at least

[Inkblades]

With Terry Date behind the boards, it's an absolute 100% guarantee that the production will be better than Gore.

I pray for them to drop something groundbreaking, but if we're being realistic, I shouldn't expect that because it's probably not going to happen. BUT, how I see it is Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan and Gore are all good three-and-a-half to four star albums, but I know deep down that they have it within themselves to drop one more five-star record.

[E-Money]

With Terry Date behind the boards, it's an absolute 100% guarantee that the production will be better than Gore.

I pray for them to drop something groundbreaking, but if we're being realistic, I shouldn't expect that because it's probably not going to happen. BUT, how I see it is Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan and Gore are all good three-and-a-half to four star albums, but I know deep down that they have it within themselves to drop one more five-star record.

This is exactly how I feel . Think songs like Rubicon really had potential but the production just lacked so much.. What Happened To You has always been the Gem of the Sergio era for me personally. I love it sonically. But I really feel with Terry back in the mix they can create something special. Hoping this 9 string doesn't sound dumb. In my opinion he sounded his best and his heaviest on a 6. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Good times ahead no doubt!!

[sharinglungs]

If they're going for an april/may release, we should hear a single soon.

Rocket skates released on this day in 2010. Album was out on May.

So hopefully the album is set for a release earlier this year and not later.

[stu_101]

So what are you looking for from a new deftones album, what do you guys expect? Which songs and ideas did you like the most from the last album?
even though the mixing of Gore was atrocious, the album as a whole was much more captivating than DE and KYN (imo ofc). I just hope they'll improve their songwriting, I don't know what it is, but in some songs the pop structure seems way more obvious than others (Prayers / Triangles) and it kills the replay value.
And I don't give up on interludes, I still love the idea!

Stef's input is vital Deftones DNA and more song writing should be structured on what he brings to the party.

To me, the very few riff-driven songs on Gore felt awkward (Doomed User) and a bit lazy - as if it was an afterthought to include something "heavy". I'm confident TD will help bring all this together more coherently and capture the quintessential Deftones sound for 2020.

I'd also like to see Chino lower is vocal range and focus on the darker, emotive, more vulnerable side of things that will also translate better in a live show. I believe there are a few reasons why Gore songs are hardly ever played live - vocal execution is likely one of them as well as some members just not believing in the record.

[Inkblades]

I also want to see Stephen get his darker, fuzzier tone back (not sure if that's a realistic hope, considering the 9-string). And not resorting to repetitive, overly-simplistic riffs. I think we all know he can do better than what he offered up on Diamond Eyes, the end of Rosemary, the Gore chorus, etc.

[luisch]

https://www.theprp.com/2020/02/24/news/tentative-release-time-frame-revealed-for-new-deftones-album/?fbclid=IwAR1PQdxMrUVKEH3NCFYZFQ5RfQmoScFuQn61q96Ci5YkDXmFgjSxGGUa1ew

[Climhazzard]

How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

[Inkblades]

How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

I'm guessing Abe told them that and they just didn't put his exact words in quotes.

The wait continues...

[Climhazzard]

How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

I'm guessing Abe told them that and they just didn't put his exact words in quotes.

The wait continues...

Entirely possibly. If not likely. Not sure why I said that like a moron. But anyway, I'll take it when I can get it. Summer, Fall, whatever. It's going to be the first proper record in a long time. DE, KNY and Gore were decent. But they were warmups. There's been so much time since the last one. They know what they're doing and so does Terry. We're waiting this long for a good reason.

[sharinglungs]

Terry Date. CONFIRMED.

[LG95]

Actively starting to hope this is the softest Deftones record just to throw off all the boring pricks who just want them to write My Own Summer or 7 Words again.

[LG95]

Plenty of people want it.

[kurtone]

Actively starting to hope this is the softest Deftones record just to throw off all the boring pricks who just want them to write My Own Summer or 7 Words again.

The butthurt is going to be strong with this record, especially with Terry Date producing again.

[laurapalmer]

I highly doubt anyone wants that.

I mean, I wouldn't hate it. I'd prefer that to an Around The Fur 2 attempt in 2020

[ANattyRat]

All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

[Penicks]

i'll be happy if the guitars don't sound like 40 year old motorboats stuck in the mud like they have in the previous 3 albums

[laurapalmer]

All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

I agree with most of this. Terry doesnt have me on board as a savior as much as some but production wise there is no way it can be worse than Gore. If it's a better sounding Gore, I'm in.