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Ohms: pre-release hype thread

Started by LG95, Feb 23, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Gaz

I'm hoping for better production more than anything. Diamond Eyes really grew on me over time, as did KNY, Gore had some OK songs, but quite a lot of passable ones

I'm not expecting anything ground breaking, but want it to be progression from Gore at least

Inkblades

#181
With Terry Date behind the boards, it's an absolute 100% guarantee that the production will be better than Gore.

I pray for them to drop something groundbreaking, but if we're being realistic, I shouldn't expect that because it's probably not going to happen. BUT, how I see it is Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan and Gore are all good three-and-a-half to four star albums, but I know deep down that they have it within themselves to drop one more five-star record.

E-Money

Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM
With Terry Date behind the boards, it's an absolute 100% guarantee that the production will be better than Gore.

I pray for them to drop something groundbreaking, but if we're being realistic, I shouldn't expect that because it's probably not going to happen. BUT, how I see it is Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan and Gore are all good three-and-a-half to four star albums, but I know deep down that they have it within themselves to drop one more five-star record.

This is exactly how I feel . Think songs like Rubicon really had potential but the production just lacked so much.. What Happened To You has always been the Gem of the Sergio era for me personally. I love it sonically. But I really feel with Terry back in the mix they can create something special. Hoping this 9 string doesn't sound dumb. In my opinion he sounded his best and his heaviest on a 6. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Good times ahead no doubt!!

sharinglungs

If they're going for an april/may release, we should hear a single soon.

Rocket skates released on this day in 2010. Album was out on May.

So hopefully the album is set for a release earlier this year and not later.

stu_101

Quote from: lahemi on Feb 18, 2020, 03:05 PM
So what are you looking for from a new deftones album, what do you guys expect? Which songs and ideas did you like the most from the last album?
even though the mixing of Gore was atrocious, the album as a whole was much more captivating than DE and KYN (imo ofc). I just hope they'll improve their songwriting, I don't know what it is, but in some songs the pop structure seems way more obvious than others (Prayers / Triangles) and it kills the replay value.
And I don't give up on interludes, I still love the idea!

Stef's input is vital Deftones DNA and more song writing should be structured on what he brings to the party.

To me, the very few riff-driven songs on Gore felt awkward (Doomed User) and a bit lazy - as if it was an afterthought to include something "heavy". I'm confident TD will help bring all this together more coherently and capture the quintessential Deftones sound for 2020.

I'd also like to see Chino lower is vocal range and focus on the darker, emotive, more vulnerable side of things that will also translate better in a live show. I believe there are a few reasons why Gore songs are hardly ever played live - vocal execution is likely one of them as well as some members just not believing in the record.


Inkblades

I also want to see Stephen get his darker, fuzzier tone back (not sure if that's a realistic hope, considering the 9-string). And not resorting to repetitive, overly-simplistic riffs. I think we all know he can do better than what he offered up on Diamond Eyes, the end of Rosemary, the Gore chorus, etc.

luisch

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Climhazzard

#187
How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

Inkblades

Quote from: Climhazzard on Feb 24, 2020, 05:31 PM
How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

I'm guessing Abe told them that and they just didn't put his exact words in quotes.

The wait continues...

Climhazzard

Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 24, 2020, 06:08 PM
Quote from: Climhazzard on Feb 24, 2020, 05:31 PM
How did the person who wrote that article glean that the release date would be in the summer/second half of the year based on what Abe said?

I'm guessing Abe told them that and they just didn't put his exact words in quotes.

The wait continues...

Entirely possibly. If not likely. Not sure why I said that like a moron. But anyway, I'll take it when I can get it. Summer, Fall, whatever. It's going to be the first proper record in a long time. DE, KNY and Gore were decent. But they were warmups. There's been so much time since the last one. They know what they're doing and so does Terry. We're waiting this long for a good reason.

sharinglungs



Terry Date. CONFIRMED.

LG95

Actively starting to hope this is the softest Deftones record just to throw off all the boring pricks who just want them to write My Own Summer or 7 Words again.
I could float here forever

LG95

Plenty of people want it.
I could float here forever

kurtone

Quote from: LG95 on Feb 24, 2020, 10:56 PM
Actively starting to hope this is the softest Deftones record just to throw off all the boring pricks who just want them to write My Own Summer or 7 Words again.

The butthurt is going to be strong with this record, especially with Terry Date producing again.

laurapalmer

#194
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 25, 2020, 12:22 AM...

I mean, I wouldn't hate it. I'd prefer that to an Around The Fur 2 attempt in 2020

ANattyRat

All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

Penicks

i'll be happy if the guitars don't sound like 40 year old motorboats stuck in the mud like they have in the previous 3 albums

laurapalmer

Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 25, 2020, 04:26 AM
All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

I agree with most of this. Terry doesnt have me on board as a savior as much as some but production wise there is no way it can be worse than Gore. If it's a better sounding Gore, I'm in.

Inkblades

#198
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 25, 2020, 04:26 AM
All you guys hyping up the album and its potential just because Terry is back is going to screw you all over. I mean yeah, it's great news, and certainly for the people that have severe issues with the production over the last few albums. But the band is still going to make the music they want to make, for all you know, it could be a better-sounding continuation of Gore. Getting your expectations sky-high in anything rarely leads to happiness.

I love Gore, but I would love some darker songs. Not even necessarily heavy, just darker. The first part of (L)MIRL is exactly the kind of sound that I think they excel at, if they give it the exposure it deserves.

I'd be more than happy with a better-produced continuation of Gore, because my issues with it are not with the songwriting. The songwriting is mostly solid and some of the best of the Sergio era IMO (it's really a shame the mix wasn't always up to par). However, I have to disagree that will happen for two reasons. One, the sound and style of the music always changes every album (somewhat off topic, but it's why I don't believe those who say Eros just sounded like Saturday Night Wrist 2 - Smile sounds NOTHING like any of SNW). Two, some of the negative fan reception, all the hoopla about Stephen not being enamored with creating it and Deftones even posting a picture of flamingos hovering around trash pretty much guarantees they will go in a different direction and likely even a wildly different direction.

As for the return of Terry, I get what you're saying. Expectations are a motherfucker and can definitely lead to disappointment. It would also be silly to expect an album that's going to magically transport us back to the late 90's or early 00's. Truth is, yes, we probably won't get an album that's as heavy-hitting as Around the Fur was or as much of a game-changer as White Pony was. I'm simply looking for an album that has exploratory songwriting and consistent production - and, yes, maybe the best album of the Sergio era. My expectations are high but not out of the stratosphere.

Also, it is Deftones releasing a new album. It's hard not to get hyped up lol. I get hyped up on every album release. This band has always been like a drug to me, so when I find out the producer of my three favorite albums is returning, it's like the dealer telling me it's the purest, most uncut cocaine he has gotten in seventeen years. That's if I were into cocaine. I'm not.

Climhazzard

"That's if I were into cocaine. I'm not."

Yeah! ....Me either! Cocaine bad  ???