Gore

[elite54]

Are Seven, The Prodigy and Red Pill the same person? All signs point to yes.

[Red Pill]

http://youtu.be/yVf3AyInvNk

[Inkblades]

Cool video. It's proof that Head would be a better front man for Korn, just like how Wes would be a better front man for Limp.

[Red Pill]

In 2001, Borland, considered by some to be the creative genius of the band, left the group. Though, in a public statement, Durst said that he wished Borland well after his departure, he still managed to start a MySpace war with Borland when he began working with his new project, a band called Black Light Burns.

Without Borland, and with Durst now completely in control of the band's focus, their musical direction shifted. And that is the reason for lb fall in the recent years. They are cool N 2 gether now. Korn works without Head. But they are better with him.

[BewareTheWater]

Cool video. It's proof that Head would be a better front man for Korn, just like how Wes would be a better front man for Limp.

Whaaaat ? I love JD. If you really want to see Head as a front man, check out his solo stuff and Love And Death.

[BewareTheWater]

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I fuckin' love Eric Andre lol

[Inkblades]

Cool video. It's proof that Head would be a better front man for Korn, just like how Wes would be a better front man for Limp.

Whaaaat ? I love JD. If you really want to see Head as a front man, check out his solo stuff and Love And Death.

I was being slightly facetious. Just a sneaky way of saying Chino will always be a better vocalist than JD.

[Red Pill]

As you see... It didn't work out so well!

[Inkblades]

S'all good. I'm used to my subtlety going over heads.

[Red Pill]

I dont think so! Anyway...I'm good!

[ANattyRat]

Why have a bunch of people joined a DEFTONES forum just to call people who prefer Deftones fanboys? What is going on??? I think it's time for news of a new album or something, things get stupid here when things have died down.

[O]

If you dont like something you're not a fan. Then someone defend himself with you're a fanboy... keep fighting on this dying forum ...

[Inkblades]

We're far from fanboys. Fans, sure, but we don't blindly love everything they do. Anyone on this board will tell you I've criticized many aspects of Deftones and Chino's other stuff. I think Koi is overrated, will be the first to tell you that SNW and Gore have very spotty production and find the Palms album to be borderline unlistenable. I'm not against anyone criticizing their work. That's partially what this board is for.

What I am VEHEMENTLY against is this notion that cringe-worthy bands like Korny, Limp Diczkit and Stinkin Park are or will ever be better than Deftones. That, good sir, is unequivocally and categorically false. Watch, these trololos will be telling us that Crazy Town is superior to Deftones next.

[O]

What I am VEHEMENTLY against is this notion that cringe-worthy bands like Korny, Limp Diczkit and Stinkin Park are or will ever be better than Deftones. That, good sir, is unequivocally and categorically false.

I like all the bands...cringe-worthy is drake and stuff as that...By logic we're on a deftones forum... Maybe it's a normal thing to say by you, on a Linkin Park forum, they say Linkin Park is better. On a Limp Bizkit forum, Limp Bizkit is better.. Korn forum - Korn is better...

[Inkblades]

You can like those bands. Listen to them all day if you want. And look, I'm not in these streets bumping them like that, but I do enjoy a song here and there. A.D.I.D.A.S. is a cool song, and Eat You Alive gets an A for effort because Durst actually tried on that song...drawing a blank on a good LP song. Maybe Session, because there's no vocals.

But just don't tell me those bands are better than Deftones. Sorry, I don't wanna hear it. Especially on a Deftones board. I'm sure other boards would say the same thing, but guess what? They would be wrong.

This isn't just me saying this, btw. This is the critical consensus. Deftones are much more critically respected than the rest of these bands.

Here's the bottom line. None of those bands...NONE...have made an album as good as White Pony or Around the Fur. And they never will. And that's not even getting into the rest of the Deftones albums.

[O]

You can like those bands. Listen to them all day if you want. And look, I'm not in these streets bumping them like that, but I do enjoy a song here and there. A.D.I.D.A.S. is a cool song, and Eat You Alive gets an A for effort because Durst actually tried on that song...drawing a blank on a good LP song. Maybe Session, because there's no vocals.

But just don't tell me those bands are better than Deftones. Sorry, I don't wanna hear it. Especially on a Deftones board. I'm sure other boards would say the same thing, but guess what? They would be wrong.

This isn't just me saying this, btw. This is the critical consensus. Deftones are much more critically respected than the rest of these bands.

Here's the bottom line. None of those bands...NONE...have made an album as good as White Pony or Around the Fur. And they never will. And that's not even getting into the rest of the Deftones albums.

I think they are all respected and all the bands have good and bad critics..by fans and shitty social media! Some has more fans, Some has sold more albums and a few reflect some of the pivotal moments within nu-metal/metal whatever. It's your opinion on a deftones forum! I see it as normal...

[Inkblades]

All of these bands have received good and bad criticism. Sure, as does any work of art. But Deftones have received more positive feedback, while the other bands haven't. Look at the actual Metacritic averages of all the albums these bands have put out since 2010:

Diamond Eyes - 78
Koi No Yokan - 86
Gore - 81

The Path of Totality - 58
The Paradigm Shift - 65
The Serenity of Suffering - 67

A Thousand Suns - 66
Living Things - 60
The Hunting Party - 65

Gold Cobra - 53

Deftones are more critically respected. The numbers don't lie.

[O]

What about the fans? Can you say since the 1st album? Album sales? I don't see you saying that stuff on a Deftones forum as anormal, but I can understand the other people and I respect them too.

[Inkblades]

Album sales are basically irrelevant to me, because I don't believe commercial success is indicative of musical talent. And obviously Korn, LB and LP all had more play from MTV back in the day than DT ever did. They were more commercially mainstream bands (possibly racism on the part of the industry, too, giving bands fronted by angry, depressed white boys more of a push than a band fronted by a talented Mexican kid). That being said, illthrowROCKS@U did post that DT albums have often had better first week sales on the Billboard charts than the others, especially lately. Why lately? This ties into what he's been saying, what I've been saying and what many outside of the board have been been saying. Here goes...

Deftones are more relevant than these other bands in 2017. Why? Because they transcended nu-metal. Shit, not only did they transcend the nu-metal tag, they did it BACK WHEN NU-METAL WAS IN ITS HEYDAY. You know, the 1998-1999-2000 MTV era.

Korn? Limp Bizkit? They haven't. They are still making nu-metal. I just heard Korn's new single on the radio and that shit was nu-metal as fuck. I actually started laughing at how nu-metal it was. Well, actually, I was laughing more because it was nu-metal 2.0 - nu-metal mixed with a shitty, bland pop veneer. Davis even had a lyric about "You are the disease"...like, this guy has been singing the same exact shit since the mid-90's.

Linkin Park, on the other hand, has tried to transcend nu-metal by making other types of music. They haven't succeeded, though, because the thing is they aren't that talented. So, they aren't making nu-metal anymore, but they are still making songs as bland as ever.

"Can I say since the first album?" Not sure what you mean there. Do you mean can I say that Deftones have always been more critically acclaimed than the others since Adrenaline? I dunno, because that is their most nu-metal album. That being said, I definitely saw the flashes that they could go way beyond nu-metal on songs like Fireal and Fist.

[O]

Album sales are basically irrelevant to me, because I don't believe commercial success is indicative of musical talent. And obviously Korn, LB and LP all had more play from MTV back in the day than DT ever did. They were more commercially mainstream bands (possibly racism on the part of the industry, too, giving bands fronted by angry, depressed white boys more of a push than a band fronted by a talented Mexican kid). That being said, illthrowROCKS@U did post that DT albums have often had better first week sales on the Billboard charts than the others, especially lately. Why lately? This ties into what he's been saying, what I've been saying and what many outside of the board have been been saying. Here goes...

Haha that shit had me laughing. Of course commercial sucess is indicative of musical talent too... " They were more commercially mainstream bands (possibly racism on the part of the industry, too, giving bands fronted by angry, depressed white boys more of a push than a band fronted by a talented Mexican Kid "

Weak justification...

Linkin Park, on the other hand, has tried to transcend nu-metal by making other types of music. They haven't succeeded, though, because the thing is they aren't that talented. So, they aren't making nu-metal anymore, but they are still making songs as bland as ever.

They are talented and more relevant than deftones... but you are on a deftones forum and it's your opinion... I see you, saying that stuff as normal...