Gore

[float here 4ever]

Geometric Headdress is overrated ? I feel like I'm the only one here who even mentions it...


Instrumentals are all over the place, then the chorus kicks in and it's fucking beautiful....

Agree, still my favourite on the album

[The Prodigy]

I think the drums in GORE are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

Fixed.

Gore is a split for me between really hating Matt Hyde's production and finding the songs to be mostly ok (some of them make me cringe slightly) but not better than what's come before. In terms of live shows to me this means that better songs are being cut for newer material that's just average at best

Good point.

[Inkblades]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

Yeah, I can't say I'm itching for them to get back into the studio with Matt Hyde. Kind of a shame that the album with some of the best songwriting of the Sergio era also has the worst production.

[O]

Chino said that, unlike how he usually writes, he came up with the title first, and then wrote the lyrics based on the title. I wouldn't want all his songs to be like that

I feel the same way, Geometric is weak.
Chino should keep in mind his unique and vulgar songwriting. Otherwise the lack of conviction behind them will make the lyrics feel stale.

Well said!

[Inkblades]

Interesting how much of a love it or hate it song Geo is on here. One of my favorites on the album, personally.

[people are people]

Then Stef is vocal about his input or lack thereof and how his band has moved away from him, hinting that dynamic chemistry that has helped create this special sound between members may have run its course. I always saw the response to this as damage control and once I heard the album felt that was exactly that. This was furthered by news of delayed release dates and issues with mixing, allegedly bringing back Terry Date to mix only to discard it and go with something in between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVsw6MefOQ&t

Clip from recent interview with Stef where he mentions having "no one to count on for practically anything" as a support system mixed with "making the most of it" when recording the album gave me bad vibes. I tend to agree with his "please, let's not be in a rush" attitude to them putting out another Deftones record. Gore is easily my least favorite album they've released.

Exactly... Gore 5/10

Good stuff...

2 overrated songs, in my opinion!

[ANattyRat]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

Yeah, I can't say I'm itching for them to get back into the studio with Matt Hyde. Kind of a shame that the album with some of the best songwriting of the Sergio era also has the worst production.

They didn't seem happy with it either, so I highly doubt they'll be working with him again, to be honest.

[LG95]

Yeah Abe was complaining about the guitar being too loud in the mix not that long after it came out.

I have full trust in the band to go in whatever direction they want to musically - they've earned it by getting to this stage of their career and not having a single mediocre album in their back catalogue - but Terry Date HAS to produce the next record. He just has to.

[The Prodigy]

Diamond Eyes = mediocre

[LG95]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Penicks]

yeah lmao, it's not mediocre

it's shit

[The Prodigy]

Yeah!

[people are people]

Opinions ... but yeah, I just really feel like DE was their weakest effort to date...

[illthrowROCKS@U]

Opinions ... but yeah, I just really feel like DE was their weakest effort to date...

Me too. I think DE is their weakest album, with KNY being better but still rather weak. Personally I feel Gore was a big step up from their previous 2 efforts.

[The Prodigy]

I think the drums in GORE are some of the most pathetic recorded/produced/mixed that I've ever heard. Abe plays so solid all over this record and the drums just sound like shit.

Fixed.

Gore is a split for me between really hating Matt Hyde's production and finding the songs to be mostly ok (some of them make me cringe slightly) but not better than what's come before. In terms of live shows to me this means that better songs are being cut for newer material that's just average at best

I feel this way!

[defTHE1s]

New DAC received today, the bass in GH seems more present and precise than before (although the overwhelming bass of my headphones is starting to annoy me). This track's got some hidden beauty to it. Not a long-time favourite though.

Still a sucker for Acid Hologram however.


Also I agree Matt Hyde is a bigger flaw than any of the music on this record. Almost makes you miss Nick Raskulinecz setting all the knobs and buttons at max.

Yeah, I can't say I'm itching for them to get back into the studio with Matt Hyde. Kind of a shame that the album with some of the best songwriting of the Sergio era also has the worst production.

They didn't seem happy with it either, so I highly doubt they'll be working with him again, to be honest.

Let's pray the Lord!

[BewareTheWater]

Are y'all kidding ? Both DE and KNY have some amazing tracks.

[Penicks]

KING KONG

GET SOME




I PROMISE

TO WATCH AND RAISE YOUR BABIES

[Reichward]

DE was never intended to be anything else than "not Eros". Koi was written in very similar circumstances. You can tell that they didn't really give a shit at the time. I like them, but I feel they represent a less impactful and important part of their career. Gore seems like a much more "serious" album, in spite of any flaws it can have.

[BewareTheWater]

KING KONG

GET SOME




I PROMISE

TO WATCH AND RAISE YOUR BABIES

Both are still awesome songs, despite the questionable king kong line you just referenced.

Sometimes I wonder if any of y'all are even actual Deftones fans, considering all most of you do is shit on them. You don't have to worship every single thing they did, and you don't have to have the same opinion, but you shouldn't have to go out of your way to mock a band you supposedly like, either...