Gore

[phil for real]

Yeah that chorus on LMIRL is amazing.  So dreamy.  Beautiful.  LMIRL and H/W are my fav two tracks definitely.

[blondie]

for those who are finding it hard to make this album work to their liking, you should've seen this coming since snw. deftones have been progressively making the transition to open more doors for themselves, rather than sticking to the tried and tested white pony formula. this phase will give them more creativity and longevity in the long run. i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

[phil for real]

Stephs not going anywhere.  These dudes have been arguing for years.  It's only logical Deftones progress into a Smashing Pumpkins/Failure type band especially as they age.  They should.

[gwenudo]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

[all3n_y]

Ok, where would you guys rank Gore?

White Pony
Self Titled
Diamond Eyes
Gore
Around The Fur
Koi No Yokan
SNW
Adrenaline

[blondie]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

[blondie]

stephen not leaving deftones is a business decision at this point. deftones is an established business that tours all over the world and makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. i'm sure he can do a lot worse if he left deftones to pursue his own musical happy-place.

edit: do a lot worse money-wise.*

[CarloDefDonno]

stephen not leaving deftones is a business decision at this point. deftones is an established business that tours all over the world and makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. i'm sure he can do a lot worse if he left deftones to pursue his own musical happy-place.

So you think he is staying for the money. You must be crazy.

[gwenudo]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

Maybe you havnt read his interviews but he mentioned asshats like you in one. Basically he said you guys read too much into shit believe what the media wants you to believe. Maybe you didnt hear when said he managed to get shit done in this album and loved it. Maybe you havnt heard Gore either where he lays down some heavy ass shit. Pfft

[lungdamage]

and good day sir..

[blondie]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

Maybe you havnt read his interviews but he mentioned asshats like you in one. Basically he said you guys read too much into shit believe what the media wants you to believe. Maybe you didnt hear when said he managed to get shit done in this album and loved it. Maybe you havnt heard Gore either where he lays down some heavy ass shit. Pfft

i did read the interviews. he had no choice but to like the album. he simply came into the studio to put in work because what's his other choice? do nothing? like i said, it's a business decision.

if you think this album is laced with stephen's influence, you should go back to their previous albums and listen to everything again.

[lungdamage]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

Maybe you havnt read his interviews but he mentioned asshats like you in one. Basically he said you guys read too much into shit believe what the media wants you to believe. Maybe you didnt hear when said he managed to get shit done in this album and loved it. Maybe you havnt heard Gore either where he lays down some heavy ass shit. Pfft

i did read the interviews. he had no choice but to like the album. he simply came into the studio to put in work because what's his other choice? do nothing? like i said, it's a business decision.

if you think this album is laced with stephen's influence, you should go back to their previous albums and listen to everything again.

Blondie, I hear what you are saying, but it doesn't/didn't work like that. I know for sure.

[gwenudo]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

Maybe you havnt read his interviews but he mentioned asshats like you in one. Basically he said you guys read too much into shit believe what the media wants you to believe. Maybe you didnt hear when said he managed to get shit done in this album and loved it. Maybe you havnt heard Gore either where he lays down some heavy ass shit. Pfft

i did read the interviews. he had no choice but to like the album. he simply came into the studio to put in work because what's his other choice? do nothing? like i said, it's a business decision.

if you think this album is laced with stephen's influence, you should go back to their previous albums and listen to everything again.

Just because we hear more chino and sergio in this album DOES NOT mean steph has no influence in this album. Did you hear Gore? Doomed User? Acid? Xenon? Hell even prayers man. You listening to this with speakers? I recommend buying some audio technica m50s and give that flac a good listen, hes DEFINITELY in there.

[Freedomsoldier17]

Just listened to Acid in 320 and holy fuck, that song reminds me of Pink Maggit in terms of darkness

[lungdamage]

I'm in there dog.

[blondie]

i just hope stephen carpenter sticks around for it.

These comments are getting ridiculous. If you are asking yourself this, then you dont know this band at all.

you know this band so well, right? so you knew that stephen would have little to no input in this album, even before stephen knew, huh?

Maybe you havnt read his interviews but he mentioned asshats like you in one. Basically he said you guys read too much into shit believe what the media wants you to believe. Maybe you didnt hear when said he managed to get shit done in this album and loved it. Maybe you havnt heard Gore either where he lays down some heavy ass shit. Pfft

i did read the interviews. he had no choice but to like the album. he simply came into the studio to put in work because what's his other choice? do nothing? like i said, it's a business decision.

if you think this album is laced with stephen's influence, you should go back to their previous albums and listen to everything again.

Just because we hear more chino and sergio in this album DOES NOT mean steph has no influence in this album. Did you hear Gore? Doomed User? Acid? Xenon? Hell even prayers man. You listening to this with speakers? I recommend buying some audio technica m50s and give that flac a good listen, hes DEFINITELY in there.

just because stephen jumps in with an 8-string doesn't mean it has his influence. any dumbass can tune down and claim it sounds like stephen. his style is vastly unique to chino's rather basic riffs. and that's what gore is; an album full of chino's textbook bland riffs, sprinkled with stephen's 8-string.

[77years]

I'm at target and they have these bitches all over the place

[B_S_79]

I'm at target and they have these bitches all over the place

Don't try to buy it. The cashier will shank you and then the manager will pry the CD from your lifeless hands and put it back on the shelf.

Fuck Target.

[ominousnimbus]

stephen not leaving deftones is a business decision at this point. deftones is an established business that tours all over the world and makes hundreds of thousands of dollars. i'm sure he can do a lot worse if he left deftones to pursue his own musical happy-place.

So you think he is staying for the money. You must be crazy.

I don't know anything the rest of you don't, but does that sound so implausible? Imagine you're in a band similar to Deftones: successful enough to make a good living, but at the same time, they never quite reached "never work another day in my life" success. Even if you started out with the right intentions but eventually grew uninspired by the direction of the band, it would be hard to quit if the only alternative was giving up and getting a "real job."

I have no idea whether any of that actually applies to Steph. I'm just saying that when you have a band that's been moderately successful (commercially) for over two decades, it's likely there will be periods where some of the members aren't feeling it, but stick around anyway. Nobody loves their job all the time - even the luckiest among us. Playing music that isn't exactly what you want is probably a lot better than a suit, tie, boss, and schedule.

[E-Money]

I personally feel that steph is a big part of this record. I also think he is much more creative on this record than the last two records and did a fantastic job. I have been one of the critical ones recently about his last two records and I am very pleased with his performance on Gore.  Rubicon is the Perfect example of heaviness mixed with beauty. Only Deftones can pull this off. And even though he is still playing the eight string there's much less Chug on this record. And I love that.