Gore

[77years]

Abe totally going crazy

[wkcwkc]

First reply on Sharing Lungs, long time fan and lurker.  Thanks everyone for putting in all the effort into good intel and such for Gore, I've been anxiously waiting like most for the KNY follow-up.

My feedback on what I have heard so far:

First, my acumen on production, engineering, mastering, chords, timing, etc. is practically non-existent, but both Prayers/Triangles and Doomed User were both mediocre to me, at first.  Let me explain. 

The previews for P/T that were being put out before the track was released seemed to overshadow the finished product.  In the same way that a badass movie trailer shows all the best sequences in the trailer, or a comedy movie trailer shows all the funny gags/jokes in the preview, and the rest movie is, more or less, mediocre.  I thought the mixing was a bit off in P/T on first listen.  Naturally though, I kept listening to the track on repeat.  The more I listened to P/T, especially on good speakers and in the car, with the volume cranked (who honestly wants to listen to Deftones quietly anyway), the nuances, intricacies, and layers of the song were well pronounced, and well deciphered.  I think P/T is a killer song, album opener, and was a fitting choice for the first single, as is plays to many of Deftones strengths but dabbles into some new sonics that I think set a good "thesis statement" for the album.

On Doomed User, when I first heard the live version, I felt similarly.  Pretty much everyone has drawn attention that Chino had an off night with the vocals, the crowd didn't seem into it, etc, but I really wanted to hear the studio version before I passed judgement.  I was really digging the riff and bass I heard in the live version.  Like many, I was up today at 6am EST and listened to the song first on my iPhone speakers, and my first thought was...Chino still sounds like his vocals are off.  Frankly, I thought SiriusXM mistakenly posted a higher quality rip of the live performance.  But, on the way to work this morning, I jammed it out on repeat in the car with the volume cranked, and as I listened to it more, I couldn't help but get sucked into it.  A lot of the complaints on here about not hearing the bass, Abe's bass drum, and some of the other intricacies of the song were erased.  The song fucking rocks, albeit taking a few listens to get there. 

I have read a lot on here and Reddit about Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan, comparing those to what has been heard so far on Gore.  Frankly, we are  not in a place yet to judge Gore, only predict.  Both D/E and KNY are awesome albums and two of my favorites.  If asked to predict, I foresee Gore being similar in it's experimentation to their Self-Titled album, which on first listen was my least favorite Deftones album.  That was, in my opinion, a very experimental album for Deftones, and I foresee Gore being similar in that regard.  The self-titled album has really grown on me, and while I still can't get into some of the songs on there, AND while I do not think it is their best whole album front to back (D/E and KNY), some of my all-time favorite Deftones songs are on that album - Hexagram, Needles and Pins, Minerva, Bloody Cape, Battle-axe.  But it took me so many listens of that album to get there.

I read a review of KNY not too long ago that sums up precisely how I feel about KNY, which is..."Deftones build on the success of Diamond Eyes by playing to their strengths, without altering their style."  I think that nails it.  KNY is one of my favorite albums from Deftones, but amidst all the comments of "it really wasn't outside of the box", I would agree with that.  I think it's the Deftones playing the best of what they play well, and it's damn good.

In contrast, the two tracks so far released from Gore make it clear that the Deftones want to try some new things, head down some new roads, and take new steps musically.  The release of Prayers/Triangles and Doomed User is clear evidence of that experimentation, and I am excited about it.  It shows how varied this album will likely be.  I want to hear the whole album as one before criticizing production value too much, but I think we will get some good stuff on April 8th.  Chino has been quoted numerous times leading up to Gore that they really wanted to go outside of the box, dissect the elements of each track, try new things, experiment, etc, and what we have heard so far is a clear indicator of that.  Personally, I think it's awesome that Deftones want to branch out, and they have shown an ability to really grow and expand without altering their identity.  That mindset, to me, is why Deftones have stood the test time of time, and it's the main reason that really (and probably many of you) really admire this band. 

Anyway, apologies for the long post, but I am really excited to hear the whole album in a few weeks and I am sure I will be jamming out hard to it.

Cheers!

[HooiserBowhunter]

Well Doomed User doesn't sound that far off from the live version for me. It is not a bad track at all. I am still holding out for something as incredible as Rosemary or Leathers.

[beaverwithfishyshoes]

i have a feeling its gonna suck.

[LG95]

i have a feeling its gonna suck.

Why would you bother writing that?

[beaverwithfishyshoes]

i have a feeling its gonna suck.

Why would you bother writing that?

to have a laugh when you respond.

[2MoreHours]

i have a feeling its gonna suck.

Why would you bother writing that?

to have a laugh when you respond.

I thought it was very insightful.  At least we have the old albums to listen to that don't suck.

[sooniletugo]

I have a feeling it's gonna be awesome.

[2MoreHours]

I have a feeling it will be just ok like the last album.  I'm just hoping for one or 2 standouts.

[xbloodycape]

Here's the direct link to the Doomed User file. its in wav format tho.

https://sxmfeed.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/im-a-fooltbd-track-3.wav

[BallZDeeP]

I have had no high hopes or feeling of " i cant wait for this". I wanted this album to wow me and its not..yet at least. His screams sound terrible now. I aint mad at him..hell we are the same age and i cant do what he does. Im hoping a few of the next 9 tracks grab me

[defTHE1s]

For me it reminds me a lot to Royal...
It's good but I hope also that it's not the best of the album...
3 more weeks!

[defTHE1s]

Here's the direct link to the Doomed User file. its in wav format tho.

https://sxmfeed.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/im-a-fooltbd-track-3.wav

Wanted to grab it that way too but you did first haha.. thanks!

[phil for real]

Feel the album should be leaking soon.  Few reviews have been coming out.  I certainly hope it's soon.

[sing blue silver]

I'm very excited that people are having such strong negative AND positive reactions to the music. Even though I think P/T is kind of boring and DU is... I don't even know, I'm excited Deftones are making interesting music that people are so split on. It certainly excites me that we're not just getting "more of the same" that we kind of had with DE and KNY. I'm happy about it.

[kleptoned]

I'm very excited that people are having such strong negative AND positive reactions to the music. Even though I think P/T is kind of boring and DU is... I don't even know, I'm excited Deftones are making interesting music that people are so split on. It certainly excites me that we're not just getting "more of the same" that we kind of had with DE and KNY. I'm happy about it.

Couldnt agree more with this ...

[sharinglungs]

from digging on their site, looks like we'll get another video with DU, maybe just a vid like P/T or hopefully a lyric video..

[Freedomsoldier17]

from digging on their site, looks like we'll get another video with DU, maybe just a vid like P/T or hopefully a lyric video..

what makes you say this

[sharinglungs]

from digging on their site, looks like we'll get another video with DU, maybe just a vid like P/T or hopefully a lyric video..

what makes you say this

There's a link to a private youtube video of P/T with text that says Doomed User now available

[el perro]

So far I'm finding it really hard to hear Frank parts.