Minerva (info request & info accuracy)

[therealdaebat]

Hey everybody, I'm a mod over at the deftones reddit page and I am putting together a song spotlight per week and wanted to see if any of you would be interested in providing me with any extra info or to correct any inaccuracies to my post (and hey, maybe some of you don't know some of this stuff?) Thanks in advance for anything you guys can provide.

Title: Minerva

Album: Deftones (self titled)

Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa0-sQg1YM

Fun Facts:

* Red Faced was the working title for Minerva. / also have info that says "The Late Great Planet Earth" was the working title.

* Apparently the video for Minerva was shot during a sand storm. "The shoot eventually took 22 hours to complete, with Abe Cunningham saying that "[the shoot] sucked" and Chi Cheng calling it "terrible", but conceding that "it [is] a trippy video. I actually like it a lot".

Tabs: http://www.deftonesworld.com/3-minerva/

Remixes:

* Conscious Entity Remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot56M0r9S78

* Lieciniex Remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2kRFakbYic

Covers:

Firestar - Minerva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqEmeKh-XnM

Other Stuff:

* Minerva Instrumental https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAjz8snDtUM

* Minerva Multitracks Download https://mega.co.nz/#!FlRVHJSJ!Twie5gLXDAiXn08etk-MuEB-9PE2S85DaRzgfqibRIU

* [LINK IS BROKEN] Minerva Single FLAC Package w/ Artwork & B-sides http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,14773.msg610617.html#msg610617

* CD & Booklet Art - http://i.imgur.com/yOb3obY.jpg

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Notable Performances

Washington D.C. 9:30 Club 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKS1ukYTow - Can somebody confirm that this is the first time they played this song?

Pinkpop 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-OEebZOraQ - With an intro referencing lyrics from the Kool Aid Song from Team Sleep (collab with Mike Patton).

(If you know of any more notable performances please comment and I'll add them)

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>Minerva (Etruscan: Menrva) was the Roman goddess of wisdom and sponsor of arts, trade, and strategy. She was born with weapons from the godhead of Jupiter. From the 2nd century BC onwards, the Romans equated her with the Greek goddess Athena. She was the virgin goddess of music, poetry, medicine, wisdom, commerce, weaving, crafts, and magic. She is often depicted with her sacred creature, an owl usually named as the "owl of Minerva", which symbolizes that she is connected to wisdom.

Wikipedia Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva

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>"Minerva" is a song by the American alternative metal/experimental rock band Deftones and the lead single from their fourth self-titled studio album. It charted at #9 on Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks chart, #16 on the Mainstream Rock Tracks chart, and #15 on the UK Singles Chart.

Wikipedia Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_(song)

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Lyrics

I get all...numb

When she sings it's over

Such a strange numb

And it brings my knees to the earth

And God bless you all

For the song you saved us...

You're the same...numb

When you sing it's over

Such a strange numb

It could bring back peace to the earth

So God bless you all

For the song you saved us...oh...

For the hearts you break, every time you moan...

I get all...numb

We're the same numb

And it brings our knees to the earth

So God bless you all

For the song you saved us..oh...

For the hearts you break, every time you moan

And God bless you all on the earth...

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[buddyboy101]

Nice post.  My understanding is that Minerva was previously titled "The Late Great Planet Earth," but it got rejected last minute by WMG as being too morbid.

[therealdaebat]

Nice post.  My understanding is that Minerva was previously titled "The Late Great Planet Earth," but it got rejected last minute by WMG as being too morbid.

Interesting. Via deftones world I got different information but I'm seeing this stated throughout the internet so I'll put both until I can get some sort of confirmation on either.

I just saw deftonesworld lists them both as working titles.

[nicklav]

The tab is off. I haven't found any that are totally accurate.

[luisch]

The FLAC file is down

[therealdaebat]

The FLAC file is down

Ahh good call. I don't have the flac version so unless somebody else has it for reup I'll just note that the link is broken.

[shoop]

Romain added the FLAC soundboard to the Pinkpop 2003 vid.. i'd use that one instead. Sounds a bit better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_01zbX74E#

[daebat]

Romain added the FLAC soundboard to the Pinkpop 2003 vid.. i'd use that one instead. Sounds a bit better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_01zbX74E#

Good call.

[Inkblades]

I think another early working title was "Aria".

[therealdaebat]

According to http://www.deftonesworld.com/deftones-self-titled-tentative-song-names/  Ves is right.

[Inkblades]

Oops, my bad.

[Teknoman]

Some "secrets" about Minerva.

This is (arguably) the first deftones' song with three guitars, you can hear them during the verses, Steph's guitar, Chino's guitar and a 3rd one that does arpeggios.

Minerva was the Etruscan counterpart to greek goddess Athena and was the goddess of war (among other talents), this song title makes more sense when you see other song titles on the album referencing war and violence: Battle-axe, Deathblow, Bloody Cape and also the skull on the album cover.

The working title of Minerva was "The Late Great Planet Earth" which is also a 70's book and movie about christian prophecies of the end times.
Movie trailer: Late Great Planet Earth trailer

Accordingly to Chino (while recording the vocal track) he wanted to emulate the voice of a mother singing a lullaby to a baby.

On the music video, around 1:24 you can see the "Fender" decal on Chi's bass covered with masking tape. (Just a minor detail)

COVERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg6S_-O8MEE

EDIT: NOTABLE PERFORMACES

Rock am Ring 2003 (Dat sound!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTL6y3LMTi4

[therealdaebat]

Accordingly to Chino (while recording the vocal track) he wanted to emulate the voice of a mother singing a lullaby to a baby.

Interesting. Do you have a source for this? Also, thanks for the links to the covers / notable section.

[Teknoman]

Accordingly to Chino (while recording the vocal track) he wanted to emulate the voice of a mother singing a lullaby to a baby.

Interesting. Do you have a source for this? Also, thanks for the links to the covers / notable section.

Sorry I dont remember... but years ago I became obsessed with that song and I tried to find out every detail I could about Minerva (and s/t in general) and I read everything... interviews, reviews, articles, etc.

I mailed this info to deftonesworld.com hoping that they would include it on the site (as part of the "Secrets" section) but it never happened. I copy/pasted the text from that email.

[chi_no]

In 1996 Chino shared in an Interview with Abe and Stef (05:20) that he dreamt of filming a music video in the deasert some day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Wh-C2yrVc
7 years later they film Minerva's music video 

[luisch]

One million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3SN8tKyfpU

[chi_no]

One million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3SN8tKyfpU

... cost the video for Minerva. 

[sooniletugo]

In that video, where it says "On the couch with DEFTONES" the font used makes it look like the DE era band logo.

In 1996 Chino shared in an Interview with Abe and Stef (05:20) that he dreamt of filming a music video in the deasert some day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Wh-C2yrVc
7 years later they film Minerva's music video 

That's an awesome foreshadowing. The interviewer was like "Somehow I don't think so" but they did it.

[chi_no]

In that video, where it says "On the couch with DEFTONES" the font used makes it look like the DE era band logo.

In 1996 Chino shared in an Interview with Abe and Stef (05:20) that he dreamt of filming a music video in the deasert some day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Wh-C2yrVc
7 years later they film Minerva's music video 

That's an awesome foreshadowing. The interviewer was like "Somehow I don't think so" but they did it.

Yea

[Urantia23]

The FLAC file is down

Ahh good call. I don't have the flac version so unless somebody else has it for reup I'll just note that the link is broken.

Link fixed guys