Sharing Lungs - Deftones Online Community

protests all around the world

Started by black coffee, Jun 21, 2013, 03:38 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

black coffee

It started with the Arab Spring in Libya, Tunisia and Egypt.

But there are protests in many more countries as people are not any further willing to accept that politicians care more for the interest of the upper class and big companies than for the rest of their citizens.

Especially Turks and Brazilians were not known of protesting against their leaders. The reason for that is simple. In the last 10 years both governments did good things to their people, like creating jobs and building schools and hospitals.

But on the downside there are tons of negative aspects as well, such as corruption, nepotism, lowering of wages for people with already low income, inflation, and in consequence of that less purchasing power.

Lets take the Confed Cup this year and the World Championships next year in Brazil as an example -

A lot of Brazilians couldn't afford a ticket to see a game in a stadium, and politicians decided to increase train and bus prices right before all the tourists come to the country? I mean, in a country where football is the #1 sport, why don't you want your own people in the stadium?

The reason for that is, the more tickets they can sell to foreign tourists, the more money there is to earn.

Those events only benefit politicians, construction companies and those who are already wealthy, and people realized that.

In Budapest I spoke with a group of Argentines, and they said they left the country for Europe as their chances to find a job in Argentina are close to zero!
Also within Europe, people from countries like Greece, Portugal or Spain are forced to move away to find a job ! Many who lose their job need to move back to their parents, aged 35 or older.

A Spanish guy I talked to earned 400 Euros a month, and he had to work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week!

When he asked for a raise his boss was just like "you don't like it, get your personal stuff and fuck off, I'll find someone else who works for that money".

And this simply cannot be it. Many people my age are afraid to start a family. For instance, at my job I always get a contract for one year, which gets extended for another year a few months before it runs out.
I couldn't even realistically think about starting a family... cause if I cannot offer my own child a good life, then I'd rather not have kids! 
But I am getting carried away a little bit, my apologies ;)

So what is your personal take on things, how is the situation in your country?
Have you gone out to the streets to protest yourself?

digital bath

Thanks for starting this thread, it's nice to see that people are interested to talk about profound things and not only posting shit all the time.

I' live in switzerland, in comparison with other western countries, a very stable and prosperous country.
Of course, the people here also have worries and problems, but no one here has seriously fear for his existence.
Even if you haven't work for years, or if you have mental health problems or diseases, you will get at least as much assistance as is necessary for subsistence.

Therefore, many foreigners come here.
Some are fleeing from the bad economic situation in their homeland, try to get work in here to send money to their families, as long as the situation gets better.
But most of them are war refugees.
Ever since WWII people all over the world flee to the "politically neutral" Swiss when there is war in their home countries.
(And sadly there is always war on world, and of course they flee to most to all european countries).

Lots who I know and I've spoken with, have or had the goal to someday go back to their home countries, but the most of them stay in here.
They started a new life here, without the fear of war and nonexistence, and also because of the possibility of self-realization.

You can clearly see the genereations of refugees, after WWII lots of Italians came here (also my grandma), in the 80's and 90's people from the balkan countries (albania, yugoslavia, bosnia, etc.) Turkey and Sri Lanka and nowadays from Africa and the arabic countries.

People also go to demonstrate on the streets, mostly not because of the problems in here, but because of the problems abroad.

About starting a family:
Switzerland is a very expensive country to live.
To accommodate a family, usually both parents have to work.
Lots of people opt for the career and (may) starting making a family in their later years.

DeftonesNZ

In New Zealand here, our political situation is actually pretty good the issues the public do have aren't huge things like corruption more like money spent on ideas the public don't think will work and our welfare system over here, the system is very helpful for people who need it but because of how generous it is people seem content to stay on it so one of our main issues is trying to separate those who really need it from those who don't . There is also asset sales where our government is selling off government assets which a lot of people are divided over but overall you get the feeling that the government does have your best interests at heart and also you get the feeling even if they wanted to do that corruption stuff they wouldn't get away with it we're pretty strict on our politicians all it takes is one wrong move and they're gone.

It can be hard to find a job but if you are good at what you do or are a hard worker you'll get work reasonably quick, it's also a great place for people to start their own businesses our smaller market means there's less large companies to overpower the smaller companies so a lot of our workplace is self employed people.

As far as raising a family here I wouldn't hesitate to, it can be hard to buy a house but apart from that living cost aren't that outrageous compared to other places and we have a good welfare system for if you get into tough times. The education and health systems are pretty good with interest free student loans and subsidised health care. As far as security goes I'd say we're extremely safe internationally and locally, we don't really have any enemies or serious involvement in conflicts and we are strictly nuclear free as far as locally goes like any place there are bad neighbourhoods but you can generally feel safe walking round at night by yourself and with strict gun laws gun crime and mass shootings are extremely rare and murders aren't that common either, basically if there is one it makes it on the news.Naturally it's a magnificent country and a great place to raise kids there's great beaches, snowy mountains and great fresh air with good weather, but most of all the people are really friendly and honest, over here people are less centred on superficial stuff so when you make friends you know its not because your clothes or your car.

SwerveCityUSA

thankfully you celebrate Bob Marley day. but your country still oppresses the indigenous people, that's ok though, you'll find a conversation and talking points that justify that. that's the way it is everywhere though so, I guess it's ok.
I'm bringing it in with style myself you know it is with ease no sweat

DeftonesNZ

Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Jun 22, 2013, 06:33 PM
thankfully you celebrate Bob Marley day. but your country still oppresses the indigenous people, that's ok though, you'll find a conversation and talking points that justify that. that's the way it is everywhere though so, I guess it's ok.
Maybe that was the case years and years ago but not today, Maori tribes have been given billions in reparations and even get special privileges like guaranteed seats in parliament and specialised scholarships and tax credits just for Maori's, I should know I have Maori blood, to say that we're oppressed is ridiculous if anything we are privileged ,I'm only 1/4 Maori and did you know that if I could be bothered tracing my heritage back to my tribe I could get a free scholarship from them that is something full white people don't have and they're are alot of other little programs set up by the government to specifically help Maori people, even  the full blooded Maori in my family think it's getting ridiculous because its just greed by the leaders of the tribes now and all the majority of the Maori ever wanted is for the past wrongs to be fixed and to be equal but they realise equality doesn't work in conjunction with special privileges and all these little benefits are just pushing the races further apart and making the other races resent the Maori . Get more educated on topics before you start talking shit again.

Variable

#5
Dude, I didn't read past your original post but I assume it's nothing but support for what you said.

I couldn't agree with you more. If government isn't supporting it's own people, then who is it supporting?

Sporting events keep the average citizen alive with hope. I HOPE, your country realizes that and allows the truly passionate fan into the stadium.