Bands/Artists that inspire and influence Deftones

deftoner664 · Apr 29, 2015, 01:48 AM

Yeah, I know... this is a necro bump from hell.

So Chino has mentioned many of times in the past how Faith no More has been an influence to Deftones. I was listening to Angel Dust and heard some crazy similarities on the song "Caffeine" compared to "Nosebleed". The part In Caffeine is only a small section starting at the 2:20 to 3:03

(2:20-3:03 similar bass line build to heavy break down like Nosebleed)
http://youtu.be/3q-_iOqQ8Bs

(1:53 - 2:53 is the part that I feel that was inspired from Caffeine)
http://youtu.be/80TKdY1cu_E

buddyboy101 · Apr 29, 2015, 03:41 AM

Quote from: deftoner664 on Apr 29, 2015, 01:48 AM
Yeah, I know... this is a necro bump from hell.

So Chino has mentioned many of times in the past how Faith no More has been an influence to Deftones. I was listening to Angel Dust and heard some crazy similarities on the song "Caffeine" compared to "Nosebleed". The part In Caffeine is only a small section starting at the 2:20 to 3:03

(2:20-3:03 similar bass line build to heavy break down like Nosebleed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-_iOqQ8Bs

(1:53 - 2:53 is the part that I feel that was inspired from Caffeine)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKzwYyAEC5Q

Good find. It's blatant.

deftfan · Apr 30, 2015, 07:44 PM

very nice topic, good find about FNM

of course Depeche Mode also.

btw., there is any topic about inspire/influence of Deftones or i must create one ?

deftoner664 · May 01, 2015, 01:24 AM

Quote from: deftfan on Apr 30, 2015, 07:44 PM
very nice topic, good find about FNM

of course Depeche Mode also.

btw., there is any topic about inspire/influence of Deftones or i must create one ?

You can elaborate on other bands/songs that have been mentioned or list and discuss others that have not. Sometimes in interviews they'll talk about who they currently are listening too or artist they draw inspiration from and respect in the realm of music. Anything of that nature is appropriate to post in this thread.

DeftonesNZ · May 01, 2015, 06:06 AM

Maybe he means the other way around, as in bands inspired/influenced by Deftones

deftoner664 · May 12, 2015, 09:02 PM

So what Morrissey solo albums do you guys think Chino is referencing in that NME article? He said something about an "Elvis-y delay on his vocals" that he's been ripping off from Morrissey for the new record.

Plus, I forgot how Chino has said in past interviews how much he's been inspired by Morrissey and its never been really discussed in this thread; like he use to stand in his back yard with a broomstick and try to imitate Morrissey I guess.. lol

A quote from the NME article: "He's always been a favourite lyricist of mine – the beautiful, poetic melancholy of it all."

Anybody care to discuss or speculate?

deftoner664 · May 12, 2015, 11:25 PM

Viva Hate (1988)
http://youtu.be/UgQanZlkybI

If I had to guess I'd say Chino would consider this album a Morrissey staple. I really enjoyed this one, a lot of solid tracks on here.

Vauxhall and I (1992) (check out the songs 'Spring Heeled Jim' and 'Used to Be a Sweet Boy' 31:10 in this video till the end of the song is very much like Chino's style) Think this one is my favorite...
http://youtu.be/PI9Nc3i6MAU

Sing Your Life ( how ironic and suitable for this discussion)
You can really hear that "Elvis-y delay" on the vocals in this track that Chino was referencing.
http://youtu.be/D6BOZ8gcT6c

Will Never Marry (extended version) This song is great.

http://youtu.be/ySfpBb6lDSI

sooniletugo · May 13, 2015, 12:00 AM

I'm a huge fan of Morrissey so this is cool news to me that Chino is obsessing over his solo albums, as Moz solo is so underrated compared to The Smiths. I noticed Chino made a playlist of a few Moz solo tracks on Spotify a while ago, but I didn't realise he was particularly obsessing over them and taking influence from them recently.

His playlist consisted of: Seasick Yet Still Docked, Little Man What Now?, King Leer, Spring Heeled Jim, Yes I Am Blind, Teenage Dad on His Estate and Will Never Marry.

deftoner664 · May 13, 2015, 12:08 AM

Quote from: sooniletugo on May 13, 2015, 12:00 AM
I'm a huge fan of Morrissey so this is cool news to me that Chino is obsessing over his solo albums, as Moz solo is so underrated compared to The Smiths. I noticed Chino made a playlist of a few Moz solo tracks on Spotify a while ago, but I didn't realise he was particularly obsessing over them and taking influence from them recently.

His playlist consisted of: Seasick Yet Still Docked, Little Man What Now?, King Leer, Spring Heeled Jim, Yes I Am Blind, Teenage Dad on His Estate and Will Never Marry.

Nice! Good eye on that Spotify playlist. I'm going to check those songs out. Thanks, man.

cvthedrv · May 13, 2015, 01:45 AM

Quote from: deftoner664 on May 13, 2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: sooniletugo on May 13, 2015, 12:00 AM
I'm a huge fan of Morrissey so this is cool news to me that Chino is obsessing over his solo albums, as Moz solo is so underrated compared to The Smiths. I noticed Chino made a playlist of a few Moz solo tracks on Spotify a while ago, but I didn't realise he was particularly obsessing over them and taking influence from them recently.

His playlist consisted of: Seasick Yet Still Docked, Little Man What Now?, King Leer, Spring Heeled Jim, Yes I Am Blind, Teenage Dad on His Estate and Will Never Marry.

Nice! Good eye on that Spotify playlist. I'm going to check those songs out. Thanks, man.

yeah man, im thinking a lot of the entire 'viva hate' vibe, it has a big obscure atmosphere, distorted voices and moz awesomeness, im pretty stoked about this for sure.

Shadow46/2 · May 13, 2015, 03:19 PM

This song from Vauxhall and I.

Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK3PC2iYGIk

The higher registered vocals, the ethereal moaning and cooing, you can definitely hear that beautiful melancholy, the sound effects (hell, just read the lyrics), and there are specific moments in the track that sound just like chino's style.

Incredibly moving song, one of my favorites.

sooniletugo · May 18, 2015, 01:37 AM

Good shout. I often forget about that track. Yeah, you can see how Chino was influenced by that vocal approach.

deftoner664 · May 21, 2015, 12:06 AM

Guitar.com: What about earlier on? Who or what had inspired you to play?

Carpenter: Definitely Scott Ian. He had the baddest tone and he was my favorite guitarist.

Guitar.com: Was that the type of guitar sound you would hear in your head as you were trying to dial in your tone?

Carpenter: I'd say it was a cross between him and Jim Martin from Faith No More.

Remembered this article from back in the day... figured I'd reference it for Scott Ian and Jim Martin...

Scott's tone and riffs had an influence on Stephen. I know there's a video out there where he talks about it a little more but cant seem to find it at the moment.