Koi No Yokan thread

[Gee]

Now with KNY, they're only playing 3-4 songs from it on the tour supporting it, much like SNW. I just feel like if they liked it more they would play more of it live.

Maybe it's not the case. What do you guys think? KNY has really grown on me over the last few months and I now love it. I'm just not certain the band do.

They usually play about 4-5 songs from KNY on this tour (Poltergeist, Swerve City, Rosemary, Tempest and Entombed being the regulars lately, in late 2012 Romantic Dreams and Leathers).

First thing : the songs from KNY are pretty long (4-5 minutes on average with the exception of Swerve City) so when they play 5 songs from the album it takes roughly half-an-hour of the show, which is a lot. For the same amount of time back in 2010 or '11 they could play 6 or 7 songs from DE.

Second : they have got another LP to their catalogue, so the more they continue to release albums the harder it gets to play songs from each knowing they still have to play enough from the latest.

Third: I don't think we're ever going to see Gauze or Goon Squad live (although I'd loooove to be wrong on that) considering they're pretty hard on the vocals (plus, Chino would have to play guitar on Goon Squad). If we are to be treated with other songs from KNY on the second part of this year's tour, I would go with Graphic Nature and (this would be so great) What Happened To You ?

So that's my guess on this. The band love the album, they've all stated it several times, and, furthermore, well, it shows.

[Zantera]

I was also a bit surprised at first that the setlist wasn't more Koi No Yokan-focused. Sure, there are some valid points like playing something from all/most albums (I think they left out SNW?). Some more KNY would be cool, but I think the setlist is pretty sweet.

[mr.sinister]

Yeah the setlist is ok, but it's so predictable and it's honestly getting pretty stale. I understand they could play anything they want, shit they could play Change and 7 Words and Minerva all night if they wanted to but I do wish they would be more spontaneous with their selection of songs. Would be nice to hear Lovers or maybe Crenshaw come out of left field some day. I think they crowd would go nuts and it would make for a much more memorable show.

[Zantera]

I forgot to mention it in my first post, but one of my biggest surprises was the fact that they play more from Around the Fur than from Koi No Yokan. I know the former is considered a classic, but since it was released more than 15 years ago, and KNY just came out, to me it feels kinda odd to be playing more stuff from a really old album (especially when it's half the album) and less from the new album.

But yeah, the setlist is pretty great otherwise. My surprise is mostly due to artists normally building a setlist that is more "centered" around a new album.

[DeftonesNZ]

The guys have said they like playing the Around the Fur stuff live, plus it's good high energy stuff and it really suits live performance because the songs sound the same as the album but with the newer stuff it's  more complex as far as production so it doesn't sound as good live. But what they're doing now is pretty much normal anyway, 4-5 of the new songs is what they usually do when they have a new album.

[DJR]

Has/Is Goon Squad been played live yet?

[Jacob]

I forgot to mention it in my first post, but one of my biggest surprises was the fact that they play more from Around the Fur than from Koi No Yokan. I know the former is considered a classic, but since it was released more than 15 years ago, and KNY just came out, to me it feels kinda odd to be playing more stuff from a really old album (especially when it's half the album) and less from the new album.

But yeah, the setlist is pretty great otherwise. My surprise is mostly due to artists normally building a setlist that is more "centered" around a new album.

When I saw them on the Diamond Eyes tour they played a shitload of Adrenaline songs. More from that album than from any other album. That was a big surprise, especially since they played songs I thought were pretty rare. What I've also noticed is that every tour usually has a new bunch of returning songs that they usually don't play (such Passenger and Knife Party some years ago - they were rare live songs but became staples of the SNW tour if memory serves). I guess it's just them wanting to change things up a bit and keep it interesing. I can imagine it's fun playing songs they haven't done for a really long time, as they're not as sick of them. Or maybe it's just fan service. With experience, they learn what the crowd enjoys.

[chuckles]

Has/Is Goon Squad been played live yet?

!
No.

[BillyNo.9]

fucking thing sucks

[DJR]

Has/Is Goon Squad been played live yet?

!
No.

Thank you for the blunt and short reply dude

[SwerveCityUSA]

fucking thing sucks

excellent.

[SwerveCityUSA]

Has/Is Goon Squad been played live yet?

The dynamics in that song are immense. I would love them to crush the audience with that one then play rocket skates right after. that would be intense.

[DJR]

Has/Is Goon Squad been played live yet?

The dynamics in that song are immense.

One of the best things my ears have ever taken in

[SwerveCityUSA]

yes man.

Rosemary directly into goon squad is one of the best musical moments of the 21st century.

[cvthedrv]

yes man.

Rosemary directly into goon squad is one of the best musical moments of the 21st century.

oh fuck, im so tired of you

[SwerveCityUSA]

yes man.

Rosemary directly into goon squad is one of the best musical moments of the 21st century.

oh fuck, im so tired of you

Oh absolutely, they deserve to be recognized as the best. they are.

[Hank]

I really don't get all the negative reviews this album has gotten from the members here. Especially those who seem like they have been a fan of theirs for around a decade or so or longer. I'm not saying that this album is my favorite piece of work they have done but it clearly is the sound I would expect them to have at this stage in their career . I also think it flows a lot better than their previous 2 records AND has some pretty kick ass songs.

I respect everyone's opinion and know that that's what makes us all different. At the same time it seems some of you want this band to stay in a box with certain styles ( songwriting / album production/ live performances) they have already done. I remember reading a long post with someone saying they have just given up and have accepted a " systematic" way of going about how they make music and do their live shows.

bullshit. Iv'e been to a good amount of shows this year and late last year, and while the setlist might of only changed a few songs they delivered every time and looked like they had a blast doing so.

As far as their overall music at this time....

I think it would be just as systematic if I picked up a record of theirs and automatically thought of it as a sequel to one of their previous ones or certain songs did the same. I think this is the best Chino has sounded on a record /live in a decade ( although 2003-2004 his screams and presence was a little more out there). Steph has done some new things ( even if its minor) and Vega has done a great job considering the situation he is in ( his sound on KNY is awesome). Frank and Abe always deliver so that shouldn't even be questioned.

You guys don't have to love everything they are doing right now , but dont make it seem like they gave up .
They may not be doing what you expect, but isn't that what this band has always been about ?

[digital bath]

I really don't get all the negative reviews this album has gotten from the members here. Especially those who seem like they have been a fan of theirs for around a decade or so or longer. I'm not saying that this album is my favorite piece of work they have done but it clearly is the sound I would expect them to have at this stage in their career . I also think it flows a lot better than their previous 2 records AND has some pretty kick ass songs.

I respect everyone's opinion and know that that's what makes us all different. At the same time it seems some of you want this band to stay in a box with certain styles ( songwriting / album production/ live performances) they have already done. I remember reading a long post with someone saying they have just given up and have accepted a " systematic" way of going about how they make music and do their live shows.

bullshit. Iv'e been to a good amount of shows this year and late last year, and while the setlist might of only changed a few songs they delivered every time and looked like they had a blast doing so.

As far as their overall music at this time....

I think it would be just as systematic if I picked up a record of theirs and automatically thought of it as a sequel to one of their previous ones or certain songs did the same. I think this is the best Chino has sounded on a record /live in a decade ( although 2003-2004 his screams and presence was a little more out there). Steph has done some new things ( even if its minor) and Vega has done a great job considering the situation he is in ( his sound on KNY is awesome). Frank and Abe always deliver so that shouldn't even be questioned.

You guys don't have to love everything they are doing right now , but dont make it seem like they gave up .
They may not be doing what you expect, but isn't that what this band has always been about ?

you say it dude!

[jaypayton]

sell out piece of shit album....deftones were 1995-2006....the last 2 albums has taken them into Chili Peppers land (more "mature mellow commercial" songs, critic darlings, newbie fans and alienating their old fanbase)....

[Zantera]

not this shit again