Koi No Yokan thread

[jpfan132]

After a week and a half with it. Im gonna say 9/10.
Gauze, Poltergeist, What Happened to You? are my favourites.
Hope they come to Ottawa one day :/

[asshole]

am i trippin or does the ending of rosemary sound like just kidding???... ever since i heard it... it sounded to me like Team Sleep... and Today After Hearing Just Kidding... It sounds just like it... though I say Just Kidding sounds more like a remix....


nevermind im high.....lol

[nineteen]

I get ATF vibes on this album. Not sure why.

[samson simpson]

this album is so fucking awesome

[Bergerac]

And the repetitive thing: I think KNY is a lot more varied than ST

Can't really agree with that with Minerva, Deathblow, Lucky You and AOAUI, which all had fewer shared traits with what had gone before. The only tracks that stand out to me on KNY as 'different' are Romantic Dreams and Entombed. The rest is pretty standard, and even something like Tempest or Goon Squad just essentially have a bit of an intro experiment. Beyond that the tracks are more standard. I like it all, no complaints, but none of the rest of KNY strikes me as particularly 'wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild' or outside of a comfort zone like some of the stuff on every post-WP album other than this one. I think KNY just follows DE very closely, the progression feels minimal. I don't really mind that because I thought they needed consistency with KNY above anything else to prove that DE wasn't a one off.

Don't know how many people watched theneedledrop review, but whilst I disagreed with a lot of it, I thought Fantano was right in criticising the caricatured riffing and the general sense of underdevelopment (i.e. Romantic Dreams' structuring). KNY is a very safe album, you just have to not care that they played it that way.

[samson simpson]

when it comes to some observations i read ...Deftones cant win for losing

[illthrowROCKS@U]

And the repetitive thing: I think KNY is a lot more varied than ST

...none of the rest of KNY strikes me as particularly 'wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild' or outside of a comfort zone like some of the stuff on every post-WP album other than this one. I think KNY just follows DE very closely, the progression feels minimal.

Absolutely, I think this is key.  Some people are making it out to be like this album is sooooo different...  Have you not been listening the past 13 years?  Everything after ATF was completely different from the album before it, yet this really feels like DE pt2.  It's not bad, I'm not saying that, but I am agreeing that it is a VERY safe album by Deftones standards.

[DeftonesNZ]

I don't think this album was meant to be experimental i think they used what they learned from the previous experimental albums to refine their sound to what they wanted,their showing they've learnt from previous experience and Chino says he thinks this is their best album so they obviously found the sound they wanted.

[Defrichtones]

http://acharts.us/album/74439

:0

[DeftonesNZ]

Thats cool it's doing well over here 8th is good for a band like that these days,did they not even chart in the US?

[Defrichtones]

Still counting i gues?  (one weak)

[White Wrist]

is there a place where we can know about the sales?

[sing blue silver]

I haven't seen it on any album charts yet. Maybe the zero promotion thing isn't really working out for them sales wise.

[xLhabiax]

DEFTONES' seventh studio album, "Koi No Yokan", sold 65,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to land at position No. 11 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD arrived in stores on November 13 via Reprise.

"Koi No Yokan" follows up 2010's "Diamond Eyes", which opened with 62,000 units to debut at No. 6.

DEFTONES' 2006 album, "Saturday Night Wrist", registered a first-week tally of 76,000 to enter the chart at No. 10.


Taken from Blabbermouth.net

[chuckles]

This happens when u don't promote ur shit the right way... FU WB!!!

[deftones86]

Sold more than DE without the promotion. Not bad. Which means 2 maybe 3 videos. I wonder what other two songs they'll pick? well we still haven't seen the one so three may be pushing it.

[xLhabiax]

This happens when u don't promote ur shit the right way... FU WB!!!

I don't understand what you are so mad about 65,000 in 2012 considering the state of the music business is pretty good.

[chuckles]

This happens when u don't promote ur shit the right way... FU WB!!!

I don't understand what you are so mad about 65,000 in 2012 considering the state of the music business is pretty good.

I'm not mad about it.. I was just saying.. Promotion wise.. They suck.. Cruda realidad..

[Jerry_Curls]

I get ATF vibes on this album. Not sure why.

You're not the only one...for me Poltergeist, Goon Squad, Gauze, and the way he sings on WHTY...

[Jesus2Chino]

Does anyone else find some of the songs kind of repetitive? I think that's one of the biggest reasons I have been struggling with calling this album great. I know Deftones have always been a intro verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus kind of band, but they over-do it on songs like Entombed, IMO.

Just feels like there's a lot more variation in Cherry Waves, even if there isn't really that much of a difference between the two structurally. One of the reasons might be because the chorus of Cherry Waves has a lot more changes than the chorus of Entombed.

I've listened to the album quite a bit now, but not enough to form a lasting opinion. That being said, the bridges in a lot of the songs on the album strike me as weak. For me Deftones have always had beautiful bridges, and the songs felt very unstable (in a good way, if that makes sense), as if they were balancing on or built around the bridge. It used to be when the bridges hit, the songs became more vulnerable, like they were letting you in and showing you who they really were. In Koi No Yokan most of the bridges feel like afterthoughts, which is a shame in my opinion.

Let none of the above lead anyone to believe that I dislike the album, as I really can't say yet, but the bridge thing stands out for me right now as being Koi No Yokan's greatest weakness. There are definitely strengths as well.

Much respect,
-Matt