Koi No Yokan thread

[bewareofrats]

It's not the same as his recent live eagle screams.

[illthrowROCKS@U]

It's ridiculous but I'll do this just for fun.

1. Saturday Night Wrist
2. Deftones
3. White Pony
4. Around the Fur
5. Diamond Eyes
6. Koi No Yokan
7. Adrenaline

Too soon for KNY.  It may end up a bit higher but this one in particular needs time.  I see great potential in it though.

Funny, mine are kind of similar..

1- Saturday Night Wrist
2- Deftones
3- Around The Fur
4- Adrenaline
5- White Pony
6- Koi No Yokan
7- Diamond Eyes

[bewareofrats]

Graphic Nature is pretty cool.  Some of the music (the drums and some effects) as well as Chino's vocals really remind me of White Pony.  The song also reminds of one of their b-sides.  Not sure which.

It and Gauze to a lesser extent are main "growers" of this album I think.

[ToneDef]

I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

The catchiest choruses on KNY are Leathers and Poltergeist (this one might be my fave).

I have to disagree. SNW is no way more atmospheric and spacey than White Pony. They will never, ever be that creative ever again. It's a masterpiece amongst all music. SNW, while being great, is more of a patchwork quilt type thing to me.

[bewareofrats]

I love the way Gauze comes to a close.  The heavy and nasty, yet toned down riff is excellent.  There's quite a bit of dark edge and tone in this album actually, particularly the last half.  Definitely not as positive sounding as Diamond Eyes.

[whipsy77]

I love the way Gauze comes to a close.  The heavy and nasty, yet toned down riff is excellent.  There's quite a bit of dark edge and tone in this album actually, particularly the last half.  Definitely not as positive sounding as Diamond Eyes.

The closing Riff in Gauze is definiely the darkest part of the album..

[rufas]

Well, I love the new record. Only weak songs IMO are the last 2. Love everything else, it's a grower, on about my 18th or 19th listen.

Does anyone know what happened to the obligatory cover versions? Is there anything planned?

[cvredhot69]

Did it leak yet?

[NYRexall]

I totally understand why you would disagree that adrenaline isn't their best album, but I don't understand you finding it laughable. Some people don't judge albums by vocal melody.  When deftones first came out, no one flocked to them because of insane vocal melody. It was raw, dirty, emotional and different. Many claim it sounded like every other numetal band at the time, but I beg to differ.

Anyways, there's tons of reasons to judge that cd, but I don't think melody is a strong criteria.

It IS laughable to me, when compared to every other one of their albums. That includes "B-sides and Rarities". Melody is just one of the aspects I quoted as lacking on that record. The bland, annoying buzzsaw guitar tone that dominates the album is another. Abe's drumming was fully formed by that record, but that alone can't save the album from sounding monotonous and nu-metal by numbers.

Sorry, man. I'm sure at the time it was an interesting take on the genre, but it's incredibly dated today and completely eclipsed by everything else they've done.

[Usurper]

Well, I love the new record. Only weak songs IMO are the last 2. Love everything else, it's a grower, on about my 18th or 19th listen.

Does anyone know what happened to the obligatory cover versions? Is there anything planned?

I think you're the first person I've seen that thinks Goon Squad is weak.
Just out of curiosity, what do you not like about it?

[Hexagram_RX]

Did it leak yet?

2 more hours

[cvredhot69]

Yessss!!!!

[Hexagram_RX]

Gauze
Entombed
Rosemary
Goon Squad
Leathers
Graphic Nature
Romantic Dreams
Swerve City
Tempest
Poltergeist
What Happened to You?

It's pretty cool that I really like even the last songs on my list, i just like the others a bit more.

[NYRexall]

you're not this album.... so fuck you?

Exactly. Fuck me.

Seriously, this album is the best.

Luuuuulz.

[Usurper]

I totally understand why you would disagree that adrenaline isn't their best album, but I don't understand you finding it laughable. Some people don't judge albums by vocal melody.  When deftones first came out, no one flocked to them because of insane vocal melody. It was raw, dirty, emotional and different. Many claim it sounded like every other numetal band at the time, but I beg to differ.

Anyways, there's tons of reasons to judge that cd, but I don't think melody is a strong criteria.

It IS laughable to me, when compared to every other one of their albums. That includes "B-sides and Rarities". Melody is just one of the aspects I quoted as lacking on that record. The bland, annoying buzzsaw guitar tone that dominates the album is another. Abe's drumming was fully formed by that record, but that alone can't save the album from sounding monotonous and nu-metal by numbers.

Sorry, man. I'm sure at the time it was an interesting take on the genre, but it's incredibly dated today and completely eclipsed by everything else they've done.

I respect your opinion to dislike Adrenaline, but you lost me with the nu-metal by the numbers bit.  I challenge you to name 3 nu-metal bands that came out during that time that you feel deftones had a strong resemblance to.  Also, feel free to continue this in the Bullshit thread where it belongs.

[NYRexall]

Something is wrong with you.

this was the first record, the sound is just dirty but even with that it's still one of the best, the guitar, the sing, the rythm.

Deftones have never been "nu metal" for me and Adrenaline was little more than a "passable debut", after 17 years it continues to make me crazy.

All of this applies to you, as an individual. So how does any of that make something wrong with me?

[NYRexall]

I respect your opinion to dislike Adrenaline, but you lost me with the nu-metal by the numbers bit.  I challenge you to name 3 nu-metal bands that came out during that time that you feel deftones had a strong resemblance to.  Also, feel free to continue this in the Bullshit thread where it belongs.

Korn, Glassjaw and Orange 9mm all come readily to mind.

You can argue that Orange 9mm weren't "nu-metal", but they had a definite influence on Deftones' sound during that period.

[NYRexall]

Shit, I meant to post that in the Deftones BS thread. Sorry about that.

Let's just put the issue to bed. I'll still take Adrenaline over any other nu-metal album ever. And every other Deftones album over Adrenaline. Nuff said.

[thewanderer]

Exactly. Fuck me.

Seriously, this album is the best.

I like your attitude! It reminds me of someone....

[DeftonesNZ]

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Yeap it may be less obvious than on the other albums but it's definitely there just listen to Bored

The "Geeeeet Boooooooooooooooored!" chorus that hits a falsetto after the second verse? Come on.

You are just being a dick now a melody doesn't have to be over a huge range in can just be slight changes he doesn't sing flatly the whole song