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Koi No Yokan thread

Started by Vesanic, Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 PM

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pissedandpierced

Quote from: aj on Nov 12, 2012, 01:48 PM
bloody Amazon. I've held out until today in the expectation that Amazon would fulfil its promise of delivering on release day (today here in the UK).

Mail has come and no sign of it.

Do I hold out one more day or just listen to it?

I'm tempted to download it, fucking HMV and their shit. I phoned them and they said I can get a full refund if I haven't received it by 22nd November. I could have walked into the city and bought it. I don't see the point of selling 'pre-orders' if you can't gaurentee arrival on the release day.
"It's good to be classic, it kinda shows that we're old" - Chino Moreno, Kerrang! Awards 2007

Gee

Quote from: pissedandpierced on Nov 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
I'm tempted to download it, fucking HMV and their shit. I phoned them and they said I can get a full refund if I haven't received it by 22nd November. I could have walked into the city and bought it. I don't see the point of selling 'pre-orders' if you can't gaurentee arrival on the release day.

I feel you man, same thing happened with me. So I just decided to listen to it online.
"When I show up, it's all good" Chino Moreno

NYRexall

Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Black on Nov 12, 2012, 06:17 AM
I listened to Adrenaline the other day for the first time in years, No melody whatsoever in Chino's vocals.


Dude, that is just wrong.

I'm serious! What am I supposed to be looking for? Help me out here. Dude sounds like just another Hed PE/Slightly Stoopid frontman on Adrenaline. ATF is rife with vocal melodies. Adrenaline just sounds like by-the-numbers nu-metal to me. I can't even hear these "intricate riffs" Steph is pumping out on Adrenaline.

It bores me senseless, and the only album of theirs I can't listen to over and over and over again.

NYRexall

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 12, 2012, 02:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Black on Nov 12, 2012, 06:17 AM
I listened to Adrenaline the other day for the first time in years, No melody whatsoever in Chino's vocals.


Dude, that is just wrong.
Yeap it may be less obvious than on the other albums but it's definitely there just listen to Bored

The "Geeeeet Boooooooooooooooored!" chorus that hits a falsetto after the second verse? Come on.

JulianGage

Went to pick up Koi No Yokan from HMV this morning! The postal service is terrible round by me and everything I've pre-ordered in the past has come 2-3 weeks late. Didn't want to go through that again! Not sure how I'd rank Koi among the other Deftones records yet but it sure is beautiful.

NYRexall

Quote from: Sett on Nov 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Dude, that is just wrong.

What's wrong is your signature.

And yet I laugh every time he posts something and I see it  ;D

aj

Quote from: pissedandpierced on Nov 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
Quote from: aj on Nov 12, 2012, 01:48 PM
bloody Amazon. I've held out until today in the expectation that Amazon would fulfil its promise of delivering on release day (today here in the UK).

Mail has come and no sign of it.

Do I hold out one more day or just listen to it?

I'm tempted to download it, fucking HMV and their shit. I phoned them and they said I can get a full refund if I haven't received it by 22nd November. I could have walked into the city and bought it. I don't see the point of selling 'pre-orders' if you can't gaurentee arrival on the release day.

Honestly, I don't know what to do. What gets me is that these retailers want you to buy CD's rather than MP3s. Then can't deliver stuff on time and wonder why people resort to piracy.

Think I'm just going to wait till it arrives, i.e. tomorrow evening I'll be able to give it a first listen.

pissedandpierced

If I was a man I would have just been kicked in the nuts. My best mate has just received it in the post. If it wasn't raining I'd consider going and buying it and sending the other copy back. Or I might just download it.
"It's good to be classic, it kinda shows that we're old" - Chino Moreno, Kerrang! Awards 2007

Usurper

#10588
Quote from: Black on Nov 12, 2012, 03:18 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Black on Nov 12, 2012, 06:17 AM
I listened to Adrenaline the other day for the first time in years, No melody whatsoever in Chino's vocals.


Dude, that is just wrong.

I'm serious! What am I supposed to be looking for? Help me out here. Dude sounds like just another Hed PE/Slightly Stoopid frontman on Adrenaline. ATF is rife with vocal melodies. Adrenaline just sounds like by-the-numbers nu-metal to me. I can't even hear these "intricate riffs" Steph is pumping out on Adrenaline.

It bores me senseless, and the only album of theirs I can't listen to over and over and over again.

I totally understand why you would disagree that adrenaline isn't their best album, but I don't understand you finding it laughable. Some people don't judge albums by vocal melody.  When deftones first came out, no one flocked to them because of insane vocal melody. It was raw, dirty, emotional and different. Many claim it sounded like every other numetal band at the time, but I beg to differ.

Anyways, there's tons of reasons to judge that cd, but I don't think melody is a strong criteria.

Speaking of melody, back to KNY
-[usurper]-

from_musings

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 12, 2012, 02:04 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Quote from: Black on Nov 12, 2012, 06:17 AM
I listened to Adrenaline the other day for the first time in years, No melody whatsoever in Chino's vocals.


Dude, that is just wrong.
Yeap it may be less obvious than on the other albums but it's definitely there just listen to Bored

first of all, since when is there a rule that says "the more melodic the better" ? if that was the case then i guess the song diamond eyes is one of their best songs? lulz. what about wgtb, most ppl here appreciate that song.. not very melodic, but ppl love it anyway.if someone wanna hate this record it's cool i guess, but this argument alone doesn't quite bite. but it doesn't really matter since there are a lot of melodies on adrenaline. maybe not their most melodic effort if you compare, but there are a lot of it i think


jciraheta

hey black , maybe adreanline doesnt hae that much melodies, but belive me , it was what was cool at that time, ...those short riffs, include the rap that chino makes in engine #9 , ...the whole nu metal thing was big at that moment and was cool , so dont judge the album that bad,

not trying  to fight just putting things in context

m1nusblindfoLd

#10591
After many many listens since the leak, I can say that Gauze is now one of my favorite Deftones songs. That chorus, radio-friendly or not, is just so good and addictive. And the music in the verses and even Frank's little effects - everything is just done so well.

I love it.

Also, I'm loving the verses in Graphic Nature- Chino's voice and singing style and the effects they put over it sounds so Like Linus/Adrenaline. I love the throwback.

And God I would have given anything to have a less depressing and shorter intro on Good Squad. Oh well..
How A Perfect Circle is the guitar starting at 2:40?

ev8sive

+1... I completely agree with you on this.


Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Nov 12, 2012, 05:28 PM
After many many listens since the leak, I can say that Gauze is now one of my favorite Deftones songs. That chorus, radio-friendly or not, is just so good and addictive. And the music in the verses and even Frank's little effects - everything is just done so well.

I love it.

Also, I'm loving the verses in Graphic Nature- Chino's voice and singing style and the effects they put over it sounds so Like Linus/Adrenaline. I love the throwback.

And God I would have given anything to have a less depressing and shorter intro on Good Squad. Oh well..
How A Perfect Circle is the guitar starting at 2:40?

DJR

Quote from: Gee on Nov 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
Quote from: pissedandpierced on Nov 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
I'm tempted to download it, fucking HMV and their shit. I phoned them and they said I can get a full refund if I haven't received it by 22nd November. I could have walked into the city and bought it. I don't see the point of selling 'pre-orders' if you can't gaurentee arrival on the release day.

I feel you man, same thing happened with me. So I just decided to listen to it online.

HMV delivered mine today..... :/

poltergeist entombed

Koi No Yokan. Wow.

This is not only the best album of 2012.
This is not only the best Deftones album.
This is not only the best album.
This is not only the best thing.
This is, in fact, the reason why our solar system exists. Music is the highest form of art, and art is the sincerest form of expression. This is the best music. The universe wanted to hear this music, and so billions of years ago it started a process to have this sun and these planets form so that our very species could come to fruition, eventually giving rise to the spectacularly creative individuals known collectively as Deftones.

Seriously, fuck everything that's not this album.

Flowb

you're not this album.... so fuck you????

poltergeist entombed

Exactly. Fuck me.

Seriously, this album is the best.

DJR

Quote from: poltergeist entombed on Nov 12, 2012, 06:02 PM
Exactly. Fuck me.

Seriously, this album is the best.

It's a great album....but you're nuts man lol

m1nusblindfoLd


gui

Quote from: Gee on Nov 12, 2012, 02:49 PM
Ok, after the first listen :

This better than WP ? Give me a break. They'll never top that one.

Contrast people, contrast. It's not there. I mean I like it, it's an interesting album but it's not anywhere close to the emotions rollercoasters that are their classics (ATF, WP, S/T). Even SNW had a lot of contrast.

Oh yeah, so far, I like DE better.

"oh no he didn't."
do you really think your opinion is that important?