Koi No Yokan thread

[M1GHTY M4VS]

For what its worth if anyone cares... have to say graphic nature is my fav.

we're two, now I get a lot of BSides regarding it, it seems they influenced it especially with a lot of their covers and favourites. I hear Sinatra, Wax and Wane and S/T type in it but with after 2008 Chino in it. Vega is all up on many more than he did on DE, he is more linked now even in Song writing Tho Stef does a lot of the Rythm with his shuggah.

[geraavl08]

What happened to you needs more.....

[xToxin]

Gauze is the weakest track? What?! That's the only song that hit home for me.

[jciraheta]

heres is my revie, ia ma an old schoold deftones fan , first my grade fore ech album

adrenaline 10
around the fur 9
white pony 8.8
self titled 8.7
snw 8.5
diamond eyes 8.0

well koi yo no kan seems a great album to me, i think the guitasrs has improve a lot, has a grounge feels that i love ,
adore romantic dreams , poltergeist, rosemary ,  like leahteres tempest, entombed, ,gauze,city  ..have to grow grapic nature, whty

note overall ... 8.8 tie with white pony for my 3 rd facorite album just a little und areount the fur and adreanalinee

could change that grade in time tho

[Jacob]

Gauze is the weakest track? What?! That's the only song that hit home for me.

I too think it's the weakest song. it's like it tries to be heavy and aggressive but falls a bit flat. and the chorus doesn't do much for me. still, good song.

[sing blue silver]

Okay here's my thoughts on Koi No Yokan after first listen. DISCLAIMER: THIS OPINION WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY CHANGE!!

Swerve City - I like the punch of the instruments right out of the gate. It just goes off like a bomb and it's an awesome swaying groove. And then Chino starts singing, which is where my complaint with this song lies. Poltergeist would have been a much better opener. The vocals aren't really my thing. They're okay but a little too polished but then the "Oh" part hits and it hurts a little. It would suit me better to just do the "that travel through the air" part and leave those stupid "oh's" out. Also a short guitar solo (if ya can call it that) at 1:43 is strange but it works. For me Sergio steals this song. The bass here is amazingly good. Stepping up his game and I give him props for that. Unfortunately, though this is not as bad of an opener as Diamond Eyes, it's a bit weak. This song get's a 6.5/10 after first listen.

Romantic Dreams - Really enjoy the tempo switches and Abe's playing here. The chorus part is a bit lackluster but overall but I love every other second of the song. The lyrics might take some getting used to but they're not bad. Chino has changed his style completely it seems and it might take some getting used to but it works on this song. 7.5/10

Leathers - Already have stated I love this track. I get the feeling this is going to be a very chorus heavy album. It's a shame because the verses on songs seem to be uniformly awesome and then open up into these big expansive modern rock choruses. But I love this song. Frank's samples are awesome and that crushing breakdown is wonderful. 8/10

Poltergeist - HOLY SHIT!! Fucking love this track. Will probably be my favourite of the album. No complaints here. Some people don't like the clapping intro but I love it. It's fun and groovy and heavy and I really love the lyrics. It follows the chorus-y trend of the rest of the record but to a lesser extent. It reminds me of Melanie in a way. The sporadic verses going into an oddly melodic chorus. Stephen just CRUSHES it here. This is why I like when Chino doesn't play guitar. This could be one of my favourite Deftones songs ever in the long run. 10/10

Entombed - Interesting. This is an odd one and seems very new for Deftones. It does sound more like a Crosses song or something but it's good. It's a slow ballad type pop song for me. Chino's vocal approach to this album seems to fit very well here. It is a bit polished for me and I'm not a big fan of the vocal heavy production here. Probably will be one of those songs I really grow into and put on when I'm in a down mood. Frank really seems to shine on this album though. Frank and Abe are definitely the stars here. The tapping thing is interesting but it's the same for the whole song. It's a pretty song but not my favourite or anything. 7/10

Graphic Nature - Cool groove. Like the guitars on this one. Stephen's 8 string playing has greatly improved from Diamond Eyes. He actually plays the whole thing and doesn't just rely on big thick chords or chugging on the top string. I like the melody and this song just oozes sexiness for me. Still think the title is pretty silly but overall I really like it. Abe steals the show yet again though. That guy just has a fantastic sense of rhythm that continues to amaze me. Also flows into Tempest very nicely. 8.5/10

Tempest - This one has always been a bit "meh" for me. I don't like Chino's intro part much at all. The "brace for the glory" line kills me. It hit's very nice though and has a very cool groove. I'm not sold on this one quite yet though. I really like Stephen's riffs here though and the one scream is very raw sounding. Only thing is Chino follows it immediately with those "oh" parts that I can't really stand all too much. Good song but I can't help feeling a little bored by the time it ends. 7/10

Gauze - DAT RIFF YO!!! Opens with a big crushing punch and then flows into the groove of the verse. Frank sounds great here and Stephens verse riff is awesome. The expansive choruses make yet another appearance and Chino is getting a little self indulgent at this point on the album but it's short so I'm cool with it. Overall this is one of the best songs on the record. It has a vulnerable side but before you can sink into it completely it slaps you in the face with a guitar. I love Stephen's work here and Sergio sounds great. Do I even have to mention how great Abe is? He's the strongest member of the band in my opinion and has always been the one I like most. This song showcases why. The quick hit of the china cymbal on the heavy riff at the opening which repeats at 3:17 is a perfect example of why I love his playing. He accents things perfectly. This is a great song in my opinion. 9.5/10

Rosemary - I fell in love with this song the first time I heard it live then listened too much and got a bit bored with it but now I'm back on that train. I won't be skipping this song. Great song and Chino's guitar playing is actually perfectly displayed here. The whole band shines on this astral journey of a song. It has an atmosphere to it I really enjoy. Not one complaint with Chino's vocals here either. The whole band is on point and it brings a smile to my face. This song is really the focal point of what Koi No Yokan is about for me. It's not the best song on the album but I feel it really captures all the elements of this record and just fits the vibe of the album well. It brings it all together and I really enjoy it. Also some find the breakdown at the end boring but I frigging LOVE it. And that outro riff is a nice little break in the album to take a breather. This is pure romance and passion for me. 9.5/10

Goon Squad - I was very excited to hear this song after the previews. Also I love the title for some reason. I actually use this term a lot at work with the other guys. I'll walk in the lunch room and say "well looks like the goon squad is all here". I've been saying it since before the song title was ever revealed so it's cool that a bit of our vernacular is now the title of a Deftones song. Anyway, for the music I love the riff and Chino's sporadic vocal delivery for the verses. This will probably be another favourite of the album for me. There's not too many high notes and wavering lyrics on the chorus so I really like that. This one grooves and the 8 string sounds great here. It totally pays off for me. Don't really have any complaints with this one. Fucking love it. Feels fresh and different but feels like Deftones. 10/10

What Happened To You? - Good song but not a great closer. Maybe I'm just particular about how this band closes an album because they usually do it so well. I prefer the downbeat building into a crescendo closers like Pink Maggit, Riviere and This Place Is Death so this one is a bit different. It's a strange song for Deftones and Stephen feels almost completely absent from the song. It seems like Chino is more indulging himself here again. I like it but it sounds more like something for Team Sleep or Crosses. Then again I'm not in Deftones and they know better what works best for Deftones than me. I dig the track but it's gonna take some time to grow on me. Cool groove though and the beat is pretty neat. The jury is still out on this one but if I had to rate it (which I do) I'd give it a 7/10

So those are my initial thoughts. As I grow into the album opinions will change and I'll see things differently. One thing is for sure, this is a VERY different Deftones album. It's not their softest record ever as I had predicted and it's also not Diamond Eyes part 2. It feels like the ambition they had for SNW and DE is fully realized here. With SNW they tried to branch out and do something different but it was done poorly with the in-fighting and scattered recording process and the album can suffer from it (don't get me wrong though, SNW is probably my favourite 'tones record along with ST). On first listen KNY hooked me in and it's a satisfying payoff. It seems like DE was the bridge from the SNW and Eros era to this and it works for me. KNY also excels at feeling like a full and complete album. It's not fragmented and flows incredibly well. So overall I give the album an average rating of 8.5/10. It's a milestone for the band for sure.

[RoyBiggins]

Big Roy a.k.a Big Money Roy enjoys the album. Sounds fresh.

[Usurper]

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Thought I was the only one that doesn't like this track.
It feels like an obligatory mellow track to me. Nice change of pace, but feels like filler to me.
Don't think it's bad, but, it's my least favorite

[jonnyboy84]

Big Roy a.k.a Big Money Roy enjoys the album. Sounds fresh.

on a scale of 1-10....how fresh is it?

[stpilots98]

Goon Squad
Nice intro, especially Franks drone. The song starts out banging, almost in a Stone Temple Pilots kind of way. The verse is straight up rocking. The chorus on the other hand is terrible. the worst part is Chinos looping inhale cat scream. What were they thinking? 3/5

What happend to you?
Everybody saying that Entombed is Koi No Yokans Sextape, you are wrong. This song is Koi No Yokans Sextape. Laid back atmosphere, very beautiful. Stef almost plays his guitar Chino style. Good way to end off the album. Lacks emotional impact, though. Pretty sounds aren't everything. 3/5


Koi No Yokan 3.5/5

I've heard all the songs besides these two.  If Goon Squad has an STP opening I will be so thrilled.  You had me at that!   Sex Tape is also my favorite off of DE so I'm pumped.  You made waiting until 5:30 unbearable!!!!!!!

[lungdamage]

. problem solved

[Timmy666]

I think Koi  No Yokan is pretty wonderful actually.  I do agree that Entombed is good but as a deftones song, its out of place and unexpected. I love the fact that there is a consistent aesthetic with the sound of the album. And I feel its lightyears better than the inconsistent Diamond Eyes.

[from_musings]

For what its worth if anyone cares... have to say graphic nature is my fav.

i love this song.got some old school vibe to it. the opening riff that keeps coming back sounds like a robot mosquito that's attacking you over and over

[Diplo]

The singing, the guitar silence with the Frank's sounds, yes a little bit like Risk.

Swerve city with the "ahahahh" of Chino reminds me Dexter of The Offspring.

[lungdamage]

The singing, the guitar silence with the Frank's sounds, yes a little bit like Risk.

Swerve city with the "ahahahh" of Chino reminds me Dexter of The Offspring.

more jane's addiction to me if anything

[sing blue silver]

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Never thought about it but you could interpret the lyrics that way I suppose.

[SquealLikeaPig]

Big Roy a.k.a Big Money Roy enjoys the album. Sounds fresh.

How does Poltergeist sound on Chefroyardee's new Bose system?

[thenoiboi]

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definitely got a strong sense of that.

[Sett]

Big Roy a.k.a Big Money Roy enjoys the album. Sounds fresh.

I thought that Big Roy a.k.a The Last Roy was not interested in no leaks. I mean, I feel a little cheated because I've ATAT (absorbed that, accepted that )

[xToxin]

Gauze doesn't remind me of Risk. Or any of their songs really. The ending reminds me of a Meshuggah riff though. Can't figure out which one though.