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Koi No Yokan thread

Started by Vesanic, Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 PM

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SomeOf

Quote from: Graphic_Nature on Nov 08, 2012, 09:41 AM
I think Leathers is the worst song here. And its like a 9.5/10.

9.5/10 the worst song ? So, I guess the album is just perfect ?
Mmm... yeah... ok.
(NO)

DRockDot

So someone brought up on here many pages back about how people tend to seperate after the records release... How would yall feel about me starting a group on facebook to keep this society united before everyone goes different ways? It will also be easier to MOD.
I am a simple man, with simple tastes... And all I want is a pair of rocket boots.

FEITICEIRA

This sounds like Saturday Night Wrist, Disc II to me  :o. Consider me shocked, didn't see that coming. I really like it though! I can even hear a little Self Titled at times in the riffs.   
get bored.

TheShade1989

Quote from: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 08, 2012, 05:24 AM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Nov 08, 2012, 05:19 AM
Honestly Ladies and Gentelmen?

From 1 to 10........????? I still have less than a week to go...OVERALL?
9.3/10  it's damn near perfect Deftones.
It's got a new sound, but it's of course Deftones. It has elements of all of their albums (except Adrenaline)
It's lush, beautiful, aggressive, heavy (when it needs to be).
The whole album flows very nicely from start to finish. I don't think you'll be disappointed my friend.

I dont know, the beginning of Graphic Nature (before Chino sings) reminds me of something frm Adrenaline or even Like Linus.

Ah, such an awesome album. It's funny though, because everyone was hyped up on DE too, but eventually the hype wears off and a lotta ppl changed their minds. So it'll be interesting to see everyone's thoughts in a month or two. Even the ppl who dislike it, it may grow on them. Personally, this is gonna be in my top three. My favorite two Deftones albums are White Pony and the self-titled album. After that, it's all kinda mixed. This is gonna be third favorite at the very least, if not higher.

To me, this album is perfect in that it contains influences of all of their past albums, but they're still going in new directions too. The only thing that could possibly make it better is if they added two tracks; one with that brutal, pure emotional screaming like Hexagram (though Chino's vocal abilities have changed since then, so that's illogical), and one like Deathblow in that it's so dark that you just cant help but feel despair. But that's just because those two sounds are rare for them nowadays, but it doesnt matter to me. Perfect album for where they're at now, in my opinion. Said it before, but it's definitely their most experimental and out-there, dynamic and textured, album since WP.

Northcal

Quote from: 976-EVIL on Nov 08, 2012, 08:00 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen from Sacramento, California.......!!!

DEFTONES !!!!!
napa/modesto in house

Electron§

I wonder if Eros is actually weirder than this one..... O_o

TheShade1989

Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Graphic_Nature on Nov 08, 2012, 09:41 AM
I think Leathers is the worst song here. And its like a 9.5/10.

9.5/10 the worst song ? So, I guess the album is just perfect ?
Mmm... yeah... ok.
(NO)

What's with you disagreeing with someone's opinion as though they've just said that Shakespeare was born in 1920? The album is pretty much perfect to me, and that doesnt make me wrong, because music tastes differ. Certainly with a band like Deftones, who contain many different aspects to their music.

Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2012, 09:56 AM
I wonder if Eros is actually weirder than this one..... O_o

I think just as weird, but in a very different way (ie, weird but not as light; ST meets SNW). That's how I picture it in my head.

MuffBiscuits

Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 09:31 AM
away
waves
tonight
inside

Officially the favorite words of Chino...

He seems to have a thing for 'taste', too.

Playhouse

Quote from: DRockDot on Nov 08, 2012, 09:51 AM
So someone brought up on here many pages back about how people tend to seperate after the records release... How would yall feel about me starting a group on facebook to keep this society united before everyone goes different ways? It will also be easier to MOD.
yeah man im down

Electron§

Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 08, 2012, 09:57 AM

Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2012, 09:56 AM
I wonder if Eros is actually weirder than this one..... O_o

I think just as weird, but in a very different way (ie, weird but not as light; ST meets SNW). That's how I picture it in my head.

This one turned out to be weird in a different way than I expected, I expected it to be much more spacey or psychadelic. The intros thing didn't really prove to have much effect through out the whole album except on "Leathers". And I thought the same of Eros, but I think your probably right in suspecting its like ST and SNW. Looking at the recording session clips and hearing some of the samples from that era, makes that idea seem very likely. 

SomeOf

Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 08, 2012, 09:57 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Graphic_Nature on Nov 08, 2012, 09:41 AM
I think Leathers is the worst song here. And its like a 9.5/10.

9.5/10 the worst song ? So, I guess the album is just perfect ?
Mmm... yeah... ok.
(NO)

What's with you disagreeing with someone's opinion as though they've just said that Shakespeare was born in 1920? The album is pretty much perfect to me, and that doesnt make me wrong, because music tastes differ. Certainly with a band like Deftones, who contain many different aspects to their music.


I'm not sayin' that's good or bad if someone love or hate KNY. I always respect everybody's opinions.
By the way, remember that I still didn't even gave my review of it.

I'm just sayin' that this album is really great but you (you = everybody) are way too excited just because it's something new.

This is NOT such a masterpiece.
Anyway, it's very good. More than I expected.

DRockDot

Quote from: Playhouse on Nov 08, 2012, 09:59 AM
Quote from: DRockDot on Nov 08, 2012, 09:51 AM
So someone brought up on here many pages back about how people tend to seperate after the records release... How would yall feel about me starting a group on facebook to keep this society united before everyone goes different ways? It will also be easier to MOD.
yeah man im down

SWEET... I'll keep u posted.
I am a simple man, with simple tastes... And all I want is a pair of rocket boots.

Electron§

Of course its not a masterpiece.... I think White Pony and S/T were there masterpieces. Those two seemed really the best at capturing the whole point of themselves. Every other album kind of meanders past its boundaries in a way which makes it somewhat meh.

TheShade1989

Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 10:03 AM
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 08, 2012, 09:57 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Graphic_Nature on Nov 08, 2012, 09:41 AM
I think Leathers is the worst song here. And its like a 9.5/10.

9.5/10 the worst song ? So, I guess the album is just perfect ?
Mmm... yeah... ok.
(NO)

What's with you disagreeing with someone's opinion as though they've just said that Shakespeare was born in 1920? The album is pretty much perfect to me, and that doesnt make me wrong, because music tastes differ. Certainly with a band like Deftones, who contain many different aspects to their music.


I'm not sayin' that's good or bad if someone love or hate KNY. I always respect everybody's opinions.
By the way, remember that I still didn't even gave my review of it.

I'm just sayin' that this album is really great but you (you = everybody) are way too excited just because it's something new.

This is NOT such a masterpiece.
Anyway, it's very good. More than I expected.

Depends what ppl see as a masterpiece. No doubt the album will grow on some ppl, but to others the hype will go away. Wen I first heard DE, I thought it was perfect, but wen time went by, I realized just how simple an album it was. Still like it, but not as good as I thought. With this though, you know, they've gone in directions that tick all the boxes for me, so I can say for me the excitement of new music is there, but that it's not gonna fade by much. Which is good.

MuffBiscuits

Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 08, 2012, 10:08 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 10:03 AM
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 08, 2012, 09:57 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on Nov 08, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Graphic_Nature on Nov 08, 2012, 09:41 AM
I think Leathers is the worst song here. And its like a 9.5/10.

9.5/10 the worst song ? So, I guess the album is just perfect ?
Mmm... yeah... ok.
(NO)

What's with you disagreeing with someone's opinion as though they've just said that Shakespeare was born in 1920? The album is pretty much perfect to me, and that doesnt make me wrong, because music tastes differ. Certainly with a band like Deftones, who contain many different aspects to their music.


I'm not sayin' that's good or bad if someone love or hate KNY. I always respect everybody's opinions.
By the way, remember that I still didn't even gave my review of it.

I'm just sayin' that this album is really great but you (you = everybody) are way too excited just because it's something new.

This is NOT such a masterpiece.
Anyway, it's very good. More than I expected.

Depends what ppl see as a masterpiece. No doubt the album will grow on some ppl, but to others the hype will go away. Wen I first heard DE, I thought it was perfect, but wen time went by, I realized just how simple an album it was. Still like it, but not as good as I thought. With this though, you know, they've gone in directions that tick all the boxes for me, so I can say for me the excitement of new music is there, but that it's not gonna fade by much. Which is good.

I get what both of you are saying. It's easy to get overly-excited at anything new - there have been plenty of albums I've absolutely loved and thought to be the best of that bands career when they come out, then a few months down the line they settle in and aren't quite as high up there - but on the other hand you do know inherent quality when you hear it. KNY is a very layered record, which I think will help give it a really enduring quality. Alot of Diamond Eyes was surface-level.

SomeOf

Now I agree with you both Electron§ and TheShade1989.

I'm just really tired to hear "wooo this is the best they ever did ! masterpieceeee !" like for DE two years ago.
That is not true. Objectively, ATF, WP and ST were their masterpieces.
I love Adrenaline.
I love SNW.
I love DE too even if it's their weakest for me.

I just don't like people screaming to masterpieces just because it's new or when they're like everything just because it's about Deftones.

It's my favorite band too but I wanna stay aware of what I like or not when a new album comes out.

Sorry for my english, trying my best.

deftones86

So I've listened to the album 3 times through. I dont think theres really a weak track on here. there are some weaker moments within songs.  As for the album not being heavy or not like ATF/adrenaline heavy (Deftones have never been heavy in a metal sense) . Really they went left on white pony and never came back.  Except for elite i think this album is just as heavy maybe heavier as WP.  But honestly i havent looked to Deftones for my metal fix since the 90's (if ever)?. I listen to Deftones for something different, and every album is. There are a million bands that could be my favorite, but mines Deftones

Electron§

#9557
Its hard to say sometimes which albums are masterpieces though because like... Adrenaline. I don't consider that a masterpiece, but "Fireal" is pretty much an undeniable Deftones classic. Saturday Night Wrist, another one thats not really entirely great, but I think "Hole In The Earth", "Cherry Waves", and "Riviere" are classics as well....

But yes, in terms of consistent quality within each album, ATF, White Pony, and S/T were the triumph's of Deftones history.

You could also say that those three albums kind of form a full circle, Around the Fur is youthful and aggressive, White Pony is futuristic and mature, and the S/T seems to capture both of those into a kind of indescribable surrealism only captured by the Deftones.

Amdrag

I'm 99% sure that if white pony came out today, many people would be calling it a masterpiece, but tons of people would be saying the same thing "oh it's not a masterpiece, people are just saying that because it's new". Now i don't know if KNY is their best album, or a masterpiece, but personally it took me quite a while to grasp DE from many sides to fully consider it just as good as WP. On first listen KNY is just as good if not better, it is definitely in their top echelon of releases, but it will take me time to fully appreciate all the aspects of the album to appropriately brandish it with the M word. That being said I'm not afraid to call a new album better than WP which btw is not infallible because it's old.