Koi No Yokan thread

[lungdamage]

You're full of it Ponte.  Chino doesn't sound like he's struggling at all with the high notes on SNW.  Those are some of his very best high notes and they sound excellent.

He's struggling...

Then he's struggling on every single Deftones album.

i'm going to have to disagree, IMO he doesn't sound in the best shape on SNW.

Good for you people.  I can see what you are saying if you're talking about the screaming, but not the singing.  I'm just sick of the endless criticism, like it has to be criticized because it's SNW.  I'm well used to the different criticism for the album and can leave most of it but saying the singing is weak or it sounds like Chino is struggling with that on SNW is pure bullshit.  His live performances at the time have nothing to do with the album.

i was saying i like when he chokes up (like his voice cracking) in that bit live. that whole line is sweet.

[Ponte506]

And by 'intricate riffs' you mean standard power chords on a standard tuning 6-string guitar. His progressions and tone were the key to Adrenaline. It was definitely unique at the time but theres no way to duplicate that over 6 albums without sounding stale.

What made the riffs more "technical" on albums like Adrenaline through White Pony were the tempos and constant chord-changes.  I'm not going to chalk this dude up to being Mick Thomson or John Petrucci, and most teenagers that pick up a guitar for the first time (like me back in the day) can play through an entire Deftones catalogue.  And you know what...THAT'S OK.  His riffs were awesome, and he's got killer timing.  But once Steph started venturing into his 7 strings with S/T, almost every song since then has been the following:

- Hang out on the 7th/8th string playing single notes with an occasional palm mute and bend
- Play 2 brown-note power chords during the chorus

[SquealLikeaPig]

Well the longest month of the year is officially over!

KNY time!

HELL YEAH!!!

[Ponte506]

...I still owe you guys a Poltergeist guitar cover video...can this shit leak already so I don't have to use an iPhone 4 video feed as a backing track? lol

[DeftonesNZ]

You're full of it Ponte.  Chino doesn't sound like he's struggling at all with the high notes on SNW.  Those are some of his very best high notes and they sound excellent.

He's struggling...

Then he's struggling on every single Deftones album.

i'm going to have to disagree, IMO he doesn't sound in the best shape on SNW.

Good for you people.  I can see what you are saying if you're talking about the screaming, but not the singing.  I'm just sick of the endless criticism, like it has to be criticized because it's SNW.  I'm well used to the different criticism for the album and can leave most of it but saying the singing is weak or it sounds like Chino is struggling with that on SNW is pure bullshit.  His live performances at the time have nothing to do with the album.

i was saying i like when he chokes up (like his voice cracking) in that bit live. that whole line is sweet.

know what you mean i kind of like how his voice cracks on the second "I hate all of my friends" part of hole in the earth on conan  video, but his singing was amazing on SNW maybe not always that good live but the album itself has amazing vocals

[mrpelon94]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ......naw jk.

[fuzzylogics]

And by 'intricate riffs' you mean standard power chords on a standard tuning 6-string guitar. His progressions and tone were the key to Adrenaline. It was definitely unique at the time but theres no way to duplicate that over 6 albums without sounding stale.

What made the riffs more "technical" on albums like Adrenaline through White Pony were the tempos and constant chord-changes.  I'm not going to chalk this dude up to being Mick Thomson or John Petrucci, and most teenagers that pick up a guitar for the first time (like me back in the day) can play through an entire Deftones catalogue.  And you know what...THAT'S OK.  His riffs were awesome, and he's got killer timing.  But once Steph started venturing into his 7 strings with S/T, almost every song since then has been the following:

- Hang out on the 7th/8th string playing single notes with an occasional palm mute and bend
- Play 2 brown-note power chords during the chorus

I'll give you that, he had to do more work on Adrenaline.

Now with Frank, Chino's guitar, etc he has become more of a cog in the wheel rather than the driving force of the sound. Hopefully he will show a little more dynamic in this album...

[SquealLikeaPig]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ...naw jk

lol

[BallZDeeP]

BS++

[lungdamage]

i like them all but ATF is my fav and SNW is possibly my least fav?
is anyone the exact opposite to me?

[gwenudo]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ...naw jk

lol

Did it just leaked?? Proof please :/

[beaverwithfishyshoes]

Chino used to write about NOTHING back in the day; he was just really, REALLY good at combining a lot of artsy words to string together a cool sounding song.

and he's still doing exactly that bro

[N0S3BLEED976]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ...naw jk

lol

Did it just leaked?? Proof please :/

"naw jk" = he's joking.

[gwenudo]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ...naw jk

lol

Did it just leaked?? Proof please :/

"naw jk" = he's joking.

Aahhhh shit i just noticed that xD i was ro excited that i didnt notice lol

[DAFTPUNK87]

what are all you monkeys blabbering about?....it just leaked ...naw jk

lol

By the time it actually does leak no body is going to believe anyone.

[fuzzylogics]

I've programmed a macro to check TPB and IH every 36 seconds.

[DAFTPUNK87]

I've programmed a macro to check TPB and IH every 36 seconds.

Heck yeah! good thinking

[josh_axey]

I've programmed a macro to check TPB and IH every 36 seconds.

... ...  ... ... ...

You guys.

[DAFTPUNK87]

At some point the son of a bitch will rear its beautiful face eventually. No telling how many people have an advanced copy - just a matter of someone putting it out there.

But I do just wanna say a big SCREW YOU to the guy flaunting his hard copy of the album on instragram.  not fair.
I will turn that SCREW YOU into a THANK YOU if he leaks it hehe

[mrpelon94]

this blows i want to hear Romantic Dreams and Goon Squad...