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Koi No Yokan thread

Started by Vesanic, Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 PM

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gui

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Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion.

edit : but i guess it fits more with the song.

DeftonesNZ

Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

bewareofrats

Yes, the ending to Bloody Cape fits much better with the song and the simplicity of it doesn't matter because Chino is screaming his head off over it.
Open-minded?  Here's some short videos to challenge your thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3B82C219AC3A6847

deftjess

the riff on Rosemary would of been ok if it was only twice repeat instead 4 or 5 times , then go into the outro

bewareofrats

Quote from: deftjess on Oct 24, 2012, 01:32 PM
the riff on Rosemary would of been ok if it was only twice repeat instead 4 or 5 times , then go into the outro
Is the heavy part different on studio than live?  Because I remember it just having one heavy part.
Open-minded?  Here's some short videos to challenge your thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3B82C219AC3A6847

lungdamage

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

IMO that is the 'best version' of that type of ending (that i've heard so far inc. rosemary)... because abe really kills that.


DeftonesNZ

Don't know why people are surprised at how simple it is all their songs are basically just 3 or 4 riffs repeated,Also the ending to Bloody Cape is amazing its just the way it builds up and then its just Chino whispering with a slight guitar backing its like the songs just hanging in the air then everyone comes in and smashes it back down.

gwenudo

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

Steff can shred and i remember him showing it in an interview or something but i do remember seeing him shred! But i love his simple emotional riffs More than some shredding.. like on battle axe, such a simple riff but man it gets to you! And if i do recall bloody capes last riff where chinos screaming god help me is pretty hard for some beginners :/ you gotta be fast and shit .. i learned it after awhile though
Was it like it seemed?...

DeftonesNZ

Quote from: gwenudo666 on Oct 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

Steff can shred and i remember him showing it in an interview or something but i do remember seeing him shred! But i love his simple emotional riffs More than some shredding.. like on battle axe, such a simple riff but man it gets to you! And if i do recall bloody capes last riff where chinos screaming god help me is pretty hard for some beginners :/ you gotta be fast and shit .. i learned it after awhile though
Yeah remember seeing that ,thinks its the one where he is showing the riffs from white pony.

bewareofrats

Off topic: Battle Axe is genius.  I think it is one of the best examples in Deftones of simple being so effective.  It is a longer song and it's so simple with hardly any changes but has such subtlety that makes it powerful in a unique way.
Open-minded?  Here's some short videos to challenge your thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3B82C219AC3A6847

lungdamage

Quote from: gwenudo666 on Oct 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

Steff can shred and i remember him showing it in an interview or something but i do remember seeing him shred! But i love his simple emotional riffs More than some shredding.. like on battle axe, such a simple riff but man it gets to you! And if i do recall bloody capes last riff where chinos screaming god help me is pretty hard for some beginners :/ you gotta be fast and shit .. i learned it after awhile though

post me a vid of stef shredding :D lol

DeftonesNZ

Quote from: lungdamage on Oct 24, 2012, 01:41 PM
Quote from: gwenudo666 on Oct 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

Steff can shred and i remember him showing it in an interview or something but i do remember seeing him shred! But i love his simple emotional riffs More than some shredding.. like on battle axe, such a simple riff but man it gets to you! And if i do recall bloody capes last riff where chinos screaming god help me is pretty hard for some beginners :/ you gotta be fast and shit .. i learned it after awhile though

post me a vid of stef shredding :D lol
Does a little here
Guitar.com Interviews Stephen Carpenter Part 1 (1/2)
but i remember seeing a live clip or something and he started playing megadeth

gwenudo

Im not sure what interview it was or else id be showing all of you, but i know ibe seen him! I think it was during white pony era but i know ive seen it! Pretty good actually
Was it like it seemed?...

gui

It's  just an opinion, but i always thought Stephen regressed as a riff writer since ATF. Deftones got better as a whole but Stephen used to be what i liked the best about them. But i got to say Leathers has tasty riffs.

lungdamage

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:43 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Oct 24, 2012, 01:41 PM
Quote from: gwenudo666 on Oct 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 01:23 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Bloody Cape did not have that problem.
Bloody capes ending is amazing "GOD HELP ME!!!" lol

I like the screams, but the riff is just 1 note being repeated over, i like more creativity. whatever my opinion
I think the simplicity of the riffs is a characteristic of the deftones , Stephen always writes simple but good riffs i love that i don't want to hear some guy dancing all over the fret board just because he can.

Steff can shred and i remember him showing it in an interview or something but i do remember seeing him shred! But i love his simple emotional riffs More than some shredding.. like on battle axe, such a simple riff but man it gets to you! And if i do recall bloody capes last riff where chinos screaming god help me is pretty hard for some beginners :/ you gotta be fast and shit .. i learned it after awhile though

post me a vid of stef shredding :D lol
Does a little here
Guitar.com Interviews Stephen Carpenter Part 1 (1/2)
but i remember seeing a live clip or something and he started playing megadeth


i stand arpeggiated

x Rx King x

Quote from: deftjess on Oct 24, 2012, 01:32 PM
the riff on Rosemary would of been ok if it was only twice repeat instead 4 or 5 times , then go into the outro
disagree. i think it's a tad lengthy, but brootal and worth repeating a little.

DAFTPUNK87

Quote from: x Rx King x on Oct 24, 2012, 01:50 PM
Quote from: deftjess on Oct 24, 2012, 01:32 PM
the riff on Rosemary would of been ok if it was only twice repeat instead 4 or 5 times , then go into the outro
disagree. i think it's a tad lengthy, but brootal and worth repeating a little.
I agree with RX King. I take it for what it is, and Stephen has never been an elaborate/shredding/finger-tapping guitarist. He keeps it simple, heavy, and straight to the point. It's his guitar style, and it's why we love Deftones. His guitar tone and style, and Chino's melodic crooning and melodies, along with the rest of the gang. Throw it in a blender and wahlah! DEFTONES

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Gee

Quote from: gui on Oct 24, 2012, 01:45 PM
It's  just an opinion, but i always thought Stephen regressed as a riff writer since ATF. Deftones got better as a whole but Stephen used to be what i liked the best about them. But i got to say Leathers has tasty riffs.

Feiticeira, Korea, Hexagram, Kimdracula, only to name a few.

Maybe Diamond Eyes was a little weak on that aspect though (except for YSTB and Rocket Skates maybe). But then again the simplicity of the riffs in songs like Cmnd/Ctrl fit perfectly. But hey, I love that song, I said it many times and I'll say it again  :)
"When I show up, it's all good" Chino Moreno

teamlr

Bloody Cape is my all time favorite by the Tones!!!     LOVE LOVE LOVE

Jacob

I'll jump in and agree on the Stef thing - he used to be a grand riff meister, but he's become a bit stale. I blame it on his obsession with Meshuggah. I was never a fan of the extremely down-tuned riffs in odd time signatures. lately I've enjoyed Chino's guitar playing a lot more.
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