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Koi No Yokan thread

Started by Vesanic, Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 PM

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DeftonesNZ

Quote from: defmark87 on Sep 23, 2012, 12:47 AM
My biggest complaint w/ SNW was some of Chino's said screams, and it sounded like he just didn't have very good control over his voice.  Like in Beware, it sounded like he was just trying to sing above his range and struggled.  I hear some of that in Leathers too unfortunately, but the song has some good elements too that I enjoy.  I can't be the only one that thinks this.
I actually liked Chino in this he sang the soft stuff like cherry waves beautifully, my biggest issue with snw was it lacked any sort of consistent flow it sounded more like a compilation cd rather than one album this was probably because of how long it took to make ,they say each of their albums are a snapshot of where  they were at the time they wrote it but because it took so long i guess the album was all over the place. Oh yea and the videos were shit Mein is an average song as it is and then they added a breakdancer in nice... 

Brandito27

Quote from: iceache on Sep 23, 2012, 12:58 AM
Quote from: There Will Be Blood on Sep 23, 2012, 12:40 AM
Quote from: Brandito27 on Sep 23, 2012, 12:36 AM
Hey guys, not sure if this has been said yet, because I haven't been on the thread in a few days, but Leathers, by Deftones is facing up against When a blind man cries, Metallica covering a deep purple song.. Anyways there's a vote up on loudwire, and I hope some people will vote to help out deftones, even though they're already winning by a bit:) Oh and SNW is an amazing Deftones album, I thought that DE was hit or miss, while I loved every song on SNW minus U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B,Select,Start, yeahh that includes Pink Cellphone:p

Thanks, I just voted for Deftones.  Heres the link for anyone that wants to vote.

http://loudwire.com/deftones-vs-metallica-cage-match/

Holy crap. Leathers is ahead of a Metallica track... whoa.

My thoughts exactly, they're getting a decent margin going too, would be great to see deftones beat metallica:p

sing blue silver

Because Metallica has sucked for 20 years and people are finally figuring it out.

There Will Be Blood

Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 23, 2012, 01:14 AM
Because Metallica has sucked for 20 years and people are finally figuring it out.
you are correct sir!

chuckles

Quote from: Brandito27 on Sep 23, 2012, 01:06 AM
Quote from: iceache on Sep 23, 2012, 12:58 AM
Quote from: There Will Be Blood on Sep 23, 2012, 12:40 AM
Quote from: Brandito27 on Sep 23, 2012, 12:36 AM
Hey guys, not sure if this has been said yet, because I haven't been on the thread in a few days, but Leathers, by Deftones is facing up against When a blind man cries, Metallica covering a deep purple song.. Anyways there's a vote up on loudwire, and I hope some people will vote to help out deftones, even though they're already winning by a bit:) Oh and SNW is an amazing Deftones album, I thought that DE was hit or miss, while I loved every song on SNW minus U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B,Select,Start, yeahh that includes Pink Cellphone:p

Thanks, I just voted for Deftones.  Heres the link for anyone that wants to vote.

http://loudwire.com/deftones-vs-metallica-cage-match/

Holy crap. Leathers is ahead of a Metallica track... whoa.

My thoughts exactly, they're getting a decent margin going too, would be great to see deftones beat metallica:p

deftones will win for sure.
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Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 23, 2012, 01:14 AM
Because Metallica has sucked for 20 years and people are finally figuring it out.
Yes! You have no idea how many years I have been waiting for someone to say this


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iceache

#2029
they put on a beast live show.. but their albums.. oh man, how can a band so big make such big mistakes.

I wonder what songs have been played so far.

Bza々

Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Sep 22, 2012, 11:19 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Sep 22, 2012, 11:10 PM
buuut it doesent sound like lovers or atf either,which is what half these ppl want
hmm... I guess, but why does everyone want it to sound like stuff we've already heard? That'd be kind of boring

Exactly. They re-invent their sound with every record. They're never going to replicate some shit they've already done. And 5 years from now the people hating on KNY will be saying it's underrated just like they do with SNW now.

dictatesofreason

Quote from: Bza々 on Sep 23, 2012, 04:23 AM
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Sep 22, 2012, 11:19 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Sep 22, 2012, 11:10 PM
buuut it doesent sound like lovers or atf either,which is what half these ppl want
hmm... I guess, but why does everyone want it to sound like stuff we've already heard? That'd be kind of boring

Exactly. They re-invent their sound with every record. They're never going to replicate some shit they've already done. And 5 years from now the people hating on KNY will be saying it's underrated just like they do with SNW now.
couldnt have sed it better myself yungin

lungdamage

for me, albums mature and hit terminal velocity only once the next album is released. i always appreciate the old one a little more when the new one comes out, even if i like the new one way better. ps - you could call the songs titles anything at all and after a month they will just seem natural to me... same goes with album titles.

Electron§

#2033
Quote from: Playhouse on Sep 22, 2012, 11:22 PM
Quote from: jaypayton on Sep 22, 2012, 07:09 PM
Chino was fucked up on drugs in 03=GREAT ALBUM...They all hated eachother on SNW=GREAT ALBUM...Now with DE and KNY they all love eachother and are all about unity as a band=not nearly as dark or fucked up an album....pain/torment/hate/drugs will equal a great album....Loving eachother will equal a simple rock record like DE.......The fact Chino is fat again and drinking a lot again might give me some hope the new album will be somewhat fucked up...But I still expect DE part 2
Your such an idiot. They are in a different part of their lives now, they dont want to keep writing that same melancholy, dark feeling deftones 'classic' music you all think is missing. So move on, and sit in front of pirate bay for the eros leak.
Your more of an idiot for ignoring the fact that they can still make somewhat lighthearted songs that sound masterfully beautiful and genuine, but on Diamond Eyes it doesn't have that gorgeousness and tenderness songs like "Fist", or "Gift" or "Riviere" or "Be Quiet And Drive" have, without being all darkness and depression.

The thing which Deftones have truly lost is their *emotional dynamics*. Yes, maybe they are still dynamic in the artificial purely musical sense that they go from heavy to soft, but they never really transcend into different moods with each song nowadays. Each song kind of has too similar a feel, and that feel is not very powerful.

Its much more than just needing them to be dark. If they could deliver something which felt at least *sincere* (which Diamond Eyes does not in anyway), I would be almost completely subdued in my maybe naive anticipation of the return of melancholy.


Electron§

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2012, 10:52 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 22, 2012, 09:25 PM
jaypayton is spot on.

O Rly?

1. SNW isn't great. It's good, but not great. Could have been a whole lot more. Plus, Chino's screams were terrible on that. Someone at glassjaw.net said his screaming sounded like Cartman on that record. Now THAT'S spot on. His DE screams > His SNW screams.
2. Chino's fat again? Trolololo.
3. jaypayton fails to mention that the Chi situation has a lot of to do with the positive mood of DE.

I don't know, to me Chino's screaming went downhill after S/T. He used to have a certain fullness to his voice when he'd scream, now thats completely gone. He could sound almost alien when he used to scream, now he simply squeals until it sounds like his lungs are going to spontaneously combust.

Robotsatemygrandma

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 22, 2012, 10:52 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 22, 2012, 09:25 PM
jaypayton is spot on.

O Rly?

1. SNW isn't great. It's good, but not great. Could have been a whole lot more. Plus, Chino's screams were terrible on that. Someone at glassjaw.net said his screaming sounded like Cartman on that record. Now THAT'S spot on. His DE screams > His SNW screams.
2. Chino's fat again? Trolololo.
3. jaypayton fails to mention that the Chi situation has a lot of to do with the positive mood of DE.

Lol this 3 point tally is funny. You guys crack me up.

BTW:
1: Cartman. BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! His screams are fucking raw on SNW. I think that was probably a decision they decided on. The DE shit sounds to polished for my liking considering the relative simplicity of the record.
2: Who cares.
3: The Rock tone of that album is also because they worked with a rock producer. Dude did Foo Fighters and the new AIC? Thats some rock shit right there, far cry from the grunge shit we know and love them for. Terry Date was responsible for some dark primal shit... the rage of Pantera and the dark thick tones of Soundgarden "Superunknown". With Ulrich Wild they did ATF and WP, masterpieces and benchmarks fans hold.

Yes, people's situations and what substances they're using effect the overall creativity and style of what they produce. But a person can produce a "dark" piece (art, music, or writing) while not influenced by sinister outside sources, and vice versa. Don't get me wrong, I like the dark shit Deftones "do" - and think SNW is a damn good example of it - it's very inspirational to me as an artist, but they don't have to do it all the time.

bewareofrats

I totally disagree as far as the singing goes on SNW.  I think Chino has his best singing hands down on that album. 
Open-minded?  Here's some short videos to challenge your thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3B82C219AC3A6847

xToxin

I just feel like Deftones used to be so creative/intriguing. They lost that somehow. It started in about 2006 Even though SNW is still a decent album.

Jacob

I think SNW is a fantastic record, but something about it just doesn't feel complete. it may simply be the fact that we know how the band, especially Chino, struggled to get the songs together. and the early demos show something completey different, making me wonder how much of SNW is actually the band getting their shit together and how much is their producer laying the pieces where they should be. and for the record, I don't like the Bob Ezrin demos and never understood what the big deal was.

s/t has its moments, but on a whole feels like a pretty lazy record.
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wheresmysnare

Quote from: xToxin on Sep 23, 2012, 10:06 AM
I just feel like Deftones used to be so creative/intriguing. They lost that somehow. It started in about 2006 Even though SNW is still a decent album.

agreed.