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Koi No Yokan thread

Started by Vesanic, Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 PM

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Caín

The production at least seems miles better than on DE

ponyx

I only liked Goon Squad :/

Caín

Swerve city sounds like a Godsmack Song.

JVell

Quote from: iGotSpaceLikeNASA on Nov 03, 2012, 06:47 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Nov 03, 2012, 06:35 PM
Personally, I'm done with their heaviness in a metal sense. Don't get me wrong, I love when they're heavy but they have enough of that in their back catalogue to satisfy me these days.

Yes.

Don't get me wrong. I am okay with this as well. However, the Deftones have been built upon a foundation of mixing both heavy and soft dynamics. It's critical to their sound that they don't sacrifice one too much for the other, you know? That's all I am arguing. Once again, it's hard to tell from just 30 second samples, but it appears that the heavy side of their songwriting has been scaled back even further and that's fine, just a little jarring at first.

rock_n_frost

#7584
@Vesanic

If you are agreeing ''psychology is bullshit'' than you are right. But you are wrong.

If you keep agreeing your ''everything you said is wrong'' statement,then accoarding to you :

- The album is terrible.
- People can describe songs by letters
- Snippets are just like you've imagined
- In no song you can hear chorous parts with those snippets
Quote from: Vesanic
You used to call me on my cellphone

Caín

Quote from: ponyx on Nov 03, 2012, 06:56 PM
I only liked Goon Squad :/

Then you might like Stone Temple Pilots. Sounds 100% like em.

only pieces remain

Quote from: Caín on Nov 03, 2012, 06:57 PM
Swerve city sounds like a Godsmack Song.

clean out your ears

Inkblades

Quote from: Caín on Nov 03, 2012, 06:57 PM
Swerve city sounds like a Godsmack Song.

So, in other words, it sounds like an Alice in Chains song?

dopeybanana

#7588
Based on the samples alone, I can safely say that KNY is waaaay better than DE. The songs sound way more fleshed-out, complex and most importantly, there seems to be a lot of variety and dynamics whereas DE just sounded like a short collection of singles. But here's the thing: I LIKED DE, so it looks like I'm definitely gonna fall in love with this album. Swerve City sounds like it could belong on ATF, with it's straightforward -dare I say it- 90's nu-metal riffing and the "in-and-out" riffs that follow Chino's "OHhhhHhHH" in Romantic Dreams sound exactly like the bassline to the main riff of Minerva (Throwback, maybe?). At first listen, Gauze sounds like it could be Risk 2.0 but those heavy churning riffs that follow the chorus sound hopeful. Only Leathers, Poltergeist and Goon Squad seem like they could be genuinely aggressive tracks but I'm not complaining, I prefer the lush, massive, wall-of-sound-chorus-riffing-with-Chino-guiding-the-melodies aspect of the Deftones that is plastered all over Rosemary,Tempest, What Happened and Entombed over what could potentially be a forced attempt at a straight-ahead aggressive metal sound but that's just me. Overall, things are looking good and the 13th can't get here sooner. 
How neat, I'm impressed.
How did you come to be...so blessed?

Caín

Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 03, 2012, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Caín on Nov 03, 2012, 06:57 PM
Swerve city sounds like a Godsmack Song.

So, in other words, it sounds like an Alice in Chains song?

A little to blunt and bouncy for that. It's like a bad Alice in Chains knock off, so Godsmack.

Flowb

Clips sounded pretty good, I only listened to them once. I'm going on official blackout mode until I have the full album from here on out though. I don't think judging the album from clips is going to be very accurate, but I think I'm gonna dig it quite a bit.

Drummerboy_123

Quote from: from_musings on Nov 03, 2012, 06:46 PM
they said "look out for romantic dreams" but i didn't understand that it was that kind of warning  :(

Oh you dislike a song for 30 seconds of it, tell how much RD sucks now.
The sky is falling down
The night is calling you
A star is burning out
The sky belongs to you

What Happened to You? <3

JVell

Not trying to get off topic, but damn, "Finger of Death" would fit perfectly within this album.

NicholasHume

Quote from: geraavl08 on Nov 03, 2012, 05:38 PM
Am I the only one who still listened to Leathers and Tempest clips :P

Haha no - I did! I hadn't listened to them since the day after they were each released to keep them fresh. They're still great songs. Especially Tempest. I hope none of you have overplayed them too much, haha.

As well, I hope no one is totally bummed out by the clips - judging full songs by a 30 second clip would be like judging paintings through a pinhole

FNatt

#7594
I love almost every song, based on the samples, and I piss on everyone's opinion because ultimately it is only my opinion that is relevant to me.
Not really sure about Romantic Dreams, though...

iGotSpaceLikeNASA

Quote from: JVell on Nov 03, 2012, 06:58 PM
Quote from: iGotSpaceLikeNASA on Nov 03, 2012, 06:47 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Nov 03, 2012, 06:35 PM
Personally, I'm done with their heaviness in a metal sense. Don't get me wrong, I love when they're heavy but they have enough of that in their back catalogue to satisfy me these days.

Yes.

Don't get me wrong. I am okay with this as well. However, the Deftones have been built upon a foundation of mixing both heavy and soft dynamics. It's critical to their sound that they don't sacrifice one too much for the other, you know? That's all I am arguing. Once again, it's hard to tell from just 30 second samples, but it appears that the heavy side of their songwriting has been scaled back even further and that's fine, just a little jarring at first.

Yeah I agree fully with this..having said that I really like what I'm hearing from the samples. It didn't really occur to me that there wasn't so much 'heaviness', if I was listening out for a heavy song maybe I would be more critical.

ominousnimbus

Quote from: Caín on Nov 03, 2012, 07:03 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 03, 2012, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Caín on Nov 03, 2012, 06:57 PM
Swerve city sounds like a Godsmack Song.

So, in other words, it sounds like an Alice in Chains song?

A little to blunt and bouncy for that. It's like a bad Alice in Chains knock off, so Godsmack.
Come on... Godsmack were posers whose "masculinity was offended by a major chord," as someone so succinctly put it a few pages back. They never would've dared get that melodic.

I mean, I get that Swerve sounds more alt-rock and less dark than the usual Deftones fare... I just don't think that's a fair comparison to make.

After listening through these clips several more times, I'm kind of understanding where some of you are coming from, though. I always figured the 90s-alternative-style closing tracks on DE (976 and Risk, especially) were just filler that got tacked on, but it now seems they foreshadowed a stylistic direction that took hold on perhaps half the tracks on KNY. I do think most of these new ones are a lot more interesting and fully-formed than the DE ones I just mentioned, but I'll admit this much: they're a very abrupt and fundamental change in the core Deftones sound that's run for over a decade now. I like it quite a bit, but I almost feel it's just a lucky coincidence, and there will be plenty of fans coming from other musical backgrounds and perspectives who won't.

Basically, anyone who hated Team Sleep's record probably has reason to be concerned. Not to say they're incredibly similar, but it's a pretty big jog in that direction.

pony_01

not listening the preview. na na na na na

Inkblades


m1nusblindfoLd

Quote from: FNatt on Nov 03, 2012, 07:05 PM
I love almost every song, based on the samples, and I piss on everyone's opinion because ultimately it is only my opinion that is relevant to me.
Not really sure about Romantic Dreams, though...

Again, what's wrong with RD??? I love it..