Koi No Yokan thread

[elite54]

ah, my skimming skills are declining. 

[lungdamage]

ah, my skimming skills are declining. 

your sig displays that your zoom in + enhance skills were always borderline

[DAFTPUNK87]

ah, my skimming skills are declining. 

your sig displays that your zoom in + enhance skills were always borderline

Ooooh! you need some topical cream to put on that sunburn?!

[Visitant]

some of you guys should realize it's not the 90's and nu-metal isn't cool anymore. I'm fucking glad Deftones managed to move away from that scene and show they're really capable musicians. some of you don't seem to appreciate that as much.

That's another problem...there's what I feel an epidemic of hipsters in metal.  Certain bands that people used to head-bang to in the 90's/2000's are automatically shunned now because a giant scene of metal/rock douche nozzles collectively decided it wasn't "cool".  There's a reason why "Be Quiet and Drive", "Lotion", "Around the Fur", "Engine No. 9", "Nosebleed" and "My Own Summer" are some of the best songs the Deftones have ever made...they just fucking rock.  They're aggressive, the riffs are killer, and they don't try to pull any punches.  The break-down in Be Quiet and Drive, as simple as it is, is just as magnificent for a lot of us the first time we heard it.

I get it...nu-metal was being flooded with "Crazy Town", and a parade of other sub-par to straight horrible bands that were devastating to the genre.  Instead of refining it, most bands (like Deftones, Linkin Park, Slipknot) decided to jump ship and venture out into uncharted territory. Linkin Park failed miserably (every album after Meteora was a disaster), Slipknot got a lot more technical and flourished, Staind started venturing into radio-friendly bullshit like It's Been Awhile *even though they completely redeemed themselves by returning to their 90's roots with their seventh album last year that fucking rocks*, and our boys  made White Pony and survived the early 2000's with their ground-breaking new material. 

Anyone left doing what they felt like doing were cast-aside as "lame", and then all the band wagoners jumped on the collectively awful dicks of bands like Taking Back Sunday...then they started gobbling the knobs of The Strokes, which lead them to throat-hug even more choad bands like MGMT and the such to show how avant garde and eclectic their musical taste was while listening to obscure death-metal bands from Bumblefuck, Europe that have an awe-inspiring career of 2.5 years...you guys get the picture.

YES.  Although, Linkin Park didn't pioneer shit.

[pony_01]

if there was no KoRn back in 1994, do you think deftones now still nu metal?

[DAFTPUNK87]

some of you guys should realize it's not the 90's and nu-metal isn't cool anymore. I'm fucking glad Deftones managed to move away from that scene and show they're really capable musicians. some of you don't seem to appreciate that as much.

That's another problem...there's what I feel an epidemic of hipsters in metal.  Certain bands that people used to head-bang to in the 90's/2000's are automatically shunned now because a giant scene of metal/rock douche nozzles collectively decided it wasn't "cool".  There's a reason why "Be Quiet and Drive", "Lotion", "Around the Fur", "Engine No. 9", "Nosebleed" and "My Own Summer" are some of the best songs the Deftones have ever made...they just fucking rock.  They're aggressive, the riffs are killer, and they don't try to pull any punches.  The break-down in Be Quiet and Drive, as simple as it is, is just as magnificent for a lot of us the first time we heard it.

I get it...nu-metal was being flooded with "Crazy Town", and a parade of other sub-par to straight horrible bands that were devastating to the genre.  Instead of refining it, most bands (like Deftones, Linkin Park, Slipknot) decided to jump ship and venture out into uncharted territory. Linkin Park failed miserably (every album after Meteora was a disaster), Slipknot got a lot more technical and flourished, Staind started venturing into radio-friendly bullshit like It's Been Awhile *even though they completely redeemed themselves by returning to their 90's roots with their seventh album last year that fucking rocks*, and our boys  made White Pony and survived the early 2000's with their ground-breaking new material. 

Anyone left doing what they felt like doing were cast-aside as "lame", and then all the band wagoners jumped on the collectively awful dicks of bands like Taking Back Sunday...then they started gobbling the knobs of The Strokes, which lead them to throat-hug even more choad bands like MGMT and the such to show how avant garde and eclectic their musical taste was while listening to obscure death-metal bands from Bumblefuck, Europe that have an awe-inspiring career of 2.5 years...you guys get the picture.

YES.  Although, Linkin Park didn't pioneer shit.

I agree. Even though I don't listen to those bands anymore.. Linkin Park had 2 good albums, Slipknot also had two good albums. Both of them have gone to crap, no one cares about them anymore.. Deftones have remained consistently on top in my opinion. All because they have stayed true to themselves and to their music.

[DeftonesNZ]

some of you guys should realize it's not the 90's and nu-metal isn't cool anymore. I'm fucking glad Deftones managed to move away from that scene and show they're really capable musicians. some of you don't seem to appreciate that as much.

That's another problem...there's what I feel an epidemic of hipsters in metal.  Certain bands that people used to head-bang to in the 90's/2000's are automatically shunned now because a giant scene of metal/rock douche nozzles collectively decided it wasn't "cool".  There's a reason why "Be Quiet and Drive", "Lotion", "Around the Fur", "Engine No. 9", "Nosebleed" and "My Own Summer" are some of the best songs the Deftones have ever made...they just fucking rock.  They're aggressive, the riffs are killer, and they don't try to pull any punches.  The break-down in Be Quiet and Drive, as simple as it is, is just as magnificent for a lot of us the first time we heard it.

I get it...nu-metal was being flooded with "Crazy Town", and a parade of other sub-par to straight horrible bands that were devastating to the genre.  Instead of refining it, most bands (like Deftones, Linkin Park, Slipknot) decided to jump ship and venture out into uncharted territory. Linkin Park failed miserably (every album after Meteora was a disaster), Slipknot got a lot more technical and flourished, Staind started venturing into radio-friendly bullshit like It's Been Awhile *even though they completely redeemed themselves by returning to their 90's roots with their seventh album last year that fucking rocks*, and our boys  made White Pony and survived the early 2000's with their ground-breaking new material. 

Anyone left doing what they felt like doing were cast-aside as "lame", and then all the band wagoners jumped on the collectively awful dicks of bands like Taking Back Sunday...then they started gobbling the knobs of The Strokes, which lead them to throat-hug even more choad bands like MGMT and the such to show how avant garde and eclectic their musical taste was while listening to obscure death-metal bands from Bumblefuck, Europe that have an awe-inspiring career of 2.5 years...you guys get the picture.

YES.  Although, Linkin Park didn't pioneer shit.

Yeah linkin park came like ten years later,though i will agree on they went downhill majorlly after the first two albums

[DeftonesNZ]

if there was no KoRn back in 1994, do you think deftones now still nu metal?

I don't think Korn made them change i think it was the other bands like Limp Bizkit that made them change because they were getting sick of being grouped in with that shit

[DAFTPUNK87]

if there was no KoRn back in 1994, do you think deftones now still nu metal?

I don't think Korn made them change i think it was the other bands like Limp Bizkit that made them change because they were getting sick of being grouped in with that shit

Deftones were never nu-metal to begin with. They were only lumped into that ridiculous genre because they toured and were friends with the guys in Korn, Limp Bizkit, Sevendust, etc. But they were never nu-metal - which is why they are around now and the other bands are practically unheard of nowadays.

The things Linkin Park, Korn, & Limp Bizkit were doing were were nu-metal. They wrote themselves into a corner because at the time that shit was acceptable - but now rap-rock metal is lame and unoriginal. Everyone appreciated what those bands were doing then because it was cool, fresh, and new - now it's not.

As for Deftones, they were never restricted to that "nu metal" rap-rock bullshit - which is why they are still around and evolving. Essentially they were ahead of the game.

[Drummerboy_123]

some of you guys should realize it's not the 90's and nu-metal isn't cool anymore. I'm fucking glad Deftones managed to move away from that scene and show they're really capable musicians. some of you don't seem to appreciate that as much.

That's another problem...there's what I feel an epidemic of hipsters in metal.  Certain bands that people used to head-bang to in the 90's/2000's are automatically shunned now because a giant scene of metal/rock douche nozzles collectively decided it wasn't "cool".  There's a reason why "Be Quiet and Drive", "Lotion", "Around the Fur", "Engine No. 9", "Nosebleed" and "My Own Summer" are some of the best songs the Deftones have ever made...they just fucking rock.  They're aggressive, the riffs are killer, and they don't try to pull any punches.  The break-down in Be Quiet and Drive, as simple as it is, is just as magnificent for a lot of us the first time we heard it.

I get it...nu-metal was being flooded with "Crazy Town", and a parade of other sub-par to straight horrible bands that were devastating to the genre.  Instead of refining it, most bands (like Deftones, Linkin Park, Slipknot) decided to jump ship and venture out into uncharted territory. Linkin Park failed miserably (every album after Meteora was a disaster), Slipknot got a lot more technical and flourished, Staind started venturing into radio-friendly bullshit like It's Been Awhile *even though they completely redeemed themselves by returning to their 90's roots with their seventh album last year that fucking rocks*, and our boys  made White Pony and survived the early 2000's with their ground-breaking new material. 

Anyone left doing what they felt like doing were cast-aside as "lame", and then all the band wagoners jumped on the collectively awful dicks of bands like Taking Back Sunday...then they started gobbling the knobs of The Strokes, which lead them to throat-hug even more choad bands like MGMT and the such to show how avant garde and eclectic their musical taste was while listening to obscure death-metal bands from Bumblefuck, Europe that have an awe-inspiring career of 2.5 years...you guys get the picture.

YES.  Although, Linkin Park didn't pioneer shit.

Yeah linkin park came like ten years later,though i will agree on they went downhill majorlly after the first two albums

I know this isn't the thread to begin this debate but I think they went uphill after Meteora. 2min Nu-Metal songs? Nah sorry, doesn't interest me anymore.

[lungdamage]

some of you guys should realize it's not the 90's and nu-metal isn't cool anymore. I'm fucking glad Deftones managed to move away from that scene and show they're really capable musicians. some of you don't seem to appreciate that as much.

That's another problem...there's what I feel an epidemic of hipsters in metal.  Certain bands that people used to head-bang to in the 90's/2000's are automatically shunned now because a giant scene of metal/rock douche nozzles collectively decided it wasn't "cool".  There's a reason why "Be Quiet and Drive", "Lotion", "Around the Fur", "Engine No. 9", "Nosebleed" and "My Own Summer" are some of the best songs the Deftones have ever made...they just fucking rock.  They're aggressive, the riffs are killer, and they don't try to pull any punches.  The break-down in Be Quiet and Drive, as simple as it is, is just as magnificent for a lot of us the first time we heard it.

I get it...nu-metal was being flooded with "Crazy Town", and a parade of other sub-par to straight horrible bands that were devastating to the genre.  Instead of refining it, most bands (like Deftones, Linkin Park, Slipknot) decided to jump ship and venture out into uncharted territory. Linkin Park failed miserably (every album after Meteora was a disaster), Slipknot got a lot more technical and flourished, Staind started venturing into radio-friendly bullshit like It's Been Awhile *even though they completely redeemed themselves by returning to their 90's roots with their seventh album last year that fucking rocks*, and our boys  made White Pony and survived the early 2000's with their ground-breaking new material. 

Anyone left doing what they felt like doing were cast-aside as "lame", and then all the band wagoners jumped on the collectively awful dicks of bands like Taking Back Sunday...then they started gobbling the knobs of The Strokes, which lead them to throat-hug even more choad bands like MGMT and the such to show how avant garde and eclectic their musical taste was while listening to obscure death-metal bands from Bumblefuck, Europe that have an awe-inspiring career of 2.5 years...you guys get the picture.

YES.  Although, Linkin Park didn't pioneer shit.

Yeah linkin park came like ten years later,though i will agree on they went downhill majorlly after the first two albums

I know this isn't the thread to begin this debate but I think they went uphill after Meteora. 2min Nu-Metal songs? Nah sorry, doesn't interest me anymore.

..what have we become..

[Mattarchy]

it certainly wasn't another band playing out nu metal, or fans thinking its lame, that changed deftones sound. it's simply put by them in their own words if you can find them on interviews, they aged. As time has gone by they have all grown and matured, musical tastes along with that. I doubt that decided, hey we're gonna start changing our aggressive style to something more pop and mellow because limp bizkit sucks. This will also explain why a lot of us don't listen to Korn or Slipknot anymore. I'm 29 now (and I've noticed a few others on here mentioning they are also 29) and after all these years I have gotten old and mellowed the fuck out. Not that I don't put on an occasional heavy as fuck record.

[gui]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

[xLhabiax]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

No you don't, click that "x" in the top right corner and problem solved

[Drummerboy_123]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

Sigh, I die a little when I see these debates....and when people put a G at the end of Linkin.

Back to KNY. Pumped as fuck! Just pre-ordered and can't wait, I might not listen to the leak, depends when it comes out I suppose. Tbh, with what Chino has stated, Im not surprised people aren't leaking it haha.

[lungdamage]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

No you don't, click that "x" in the top right corner and problem solved

quantum mechanics... o_O

[gui]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

Sigh, I die a little when I see these debates....and when people put a G at the end of Linkin.

Back to KNY. Pumped as fuck! Just pre-ordered and can't wait, I might not listen to the leak, depends when it comes out I suppose. Tbh, with what Chino has stated, Im not surprised people aren't leaking it haha.

haha i just re-read my post and saw the typo.

[Jacob]

god, no leak, and i have to suffer a fucking debate on Linking Park

Sigh, I die a little when I see these debates....and when people put a G at the end of Linkin.

Back to KNY. Pumped as fuck! Just pre-ordered and can't wait, I might not listen to the leak, depends when it comes out I suppose. Tbh, with what Chino has stated, Im not surprised people aren't leaking it haha.

yeah, because up until now everyone thought bands didn't mind their albums leaking. Chino changed all that, though. quite the revolutionist he is.

[gui]

and everybody reads ALL the interviews chino gives just like us.

[RaptureWS]

Exactly, people change. 10 years ago if you would have told me Imogen heap would be one of my favorite artist, I would have laughed and then punched you. Now I adore her.  ATF is still my all time fav album, and I do not believe that will ever change. While I would be thrilled to have an ATF 2.0, I know that part of me would be disappointed that I waited x number of years for a Deftones album that did not progress their sound. I think if they continued to make more aggressive music constantly, they would get burnout and so would many fans and media. it would reach a point to where they would have no funding to even be creative and write a record that THEY want to write. Maybe I am missing the point, but I love Cherry Waves as much as I love Lotion, and everything in between.