Koi No Yokan thread

[dictatesofreason]

then why are you on this board.

[DeftonesNZ]

Deftones sound too mainstream & simplified now a' days.

Don't you can fairly say that without hearing the new album

[DAFTPUNK87]

Deftones sound too mainstream & simplified now a' days.

It's people like this that don't get it. Sure, they may not be as aggressive as their Adrenaline/Around the Fur days.. but who wants to listen to a band that never evolves? They sonically crush any other band that's been around as long as them. They constantly and consistently put out amazing albums that push the envelope and stand the test of time. They are original, they are heavy & melodic, they are Deftones. And mainstream?! HAH Deftones have been and always will be anything BUT mainstream.. I mean, when you've been a band for over 20 years, yeah, of course you're going to gain some recognition and a larger fanbase.. but mainstream? I barely hear their music on the radio & never see them on TV..

Incubus has gone mainstream if you want an example of a once decent band that turned mainstream and simplified.

[SquealLikeaPig]

Deftones sound too mainstream & simplified now a' days.

I agree.  Diamond Eyes had a lot of polished "radio friendly" choruses.  I hope the new album is a little more raw.  Actually, DE is the only album of theirs that had a distinct commercial feel to it.  It was a good album but I'm hoping for more of a SNW feel with this album.

[stpilots98]

Incubus has gone mainstream if you want an example of a once decent band that turned mainstream and simplified.

Incubus has gone mainstream??    If anything  they have gone away from mainstream.   Make Yourself/Morning View were their mainstream albums and they were awesome in my eyes!   Starting with ACLOTM they started to push the envelope and really go away from their bass driven material.  Personally, I prefer the S.C.I.E.N.C.E. era and feel they have gone too far with the experimentation in my eyes. 

[xToxin]

For my tastes, anyway. I'm still skeptical about the new record. I don't hold it against the band if I don't like it. I just move along. I'll listen to a new Deftones album on principle alone.

[DeftonesNZ]

Deftones sound too mainstream & simplified now a' days.

It's people like this that don't get it. Sure, they may not be as aggressive as their Adrenaline/Around the Fur days.. but who wants to listen to a band that never evolves? They sonically crush any other band that's been around as long as them. They constantly and consistently put out amazing albums that push the envelope and stand the test of time. They are original, they are heavy & melodic, they are Deftones. And mainstream?! HAH Deftones have been and always will be anything BUT mainstream.. I mean, when you've been a band for over 20 years, yeah, of course you're going to gain some recognition and a larger fanbase.. but mainstream? I barely hear their music on the radio & never see them on TV..

Incubus has gone mainstream if you want an example of a once decent band that turned mainstream and simplified.

I would hardly say mainstream or simplified.Their a more complex these days especially with Chino stepping up his guitar game,Also great comparison to Incubus they were bug at the same times as Deftones and have should out majorly their recent albums have been shit like supermarket soundtrack (morning view is still my favourite), i guess some people can't appreciate how much these guys have evolved and still managed to stay relevant without selling out i hate people who want a sequel to adrenaline or around the fur people should know by now Deftones don't do sequels.

[xToxin]

Once again. It's my opinion, based on my tastes and feelings towards the songs. I never want them to recreate something just for me. I'm not that selfish.

Geez, opinions opinions.

[DeftonesNZ]

Once again. It's my opinion, based on my tastes and feelings towards the songs. I never want them to recreate something just for me. I'm not that selfish.

Geez, opinions opinions.

No fuck Off! haha just kidding i am sure this new album will stun us all

[deftones86]

Must be close to Sunday. errybodys a preacher in the KNY thread.

[xToxin]

Earlier it was really bad in here people were assuming things, telling people they aren't fans etc. Just for saying they'd download an album if it leaked.

[Usurper]

Once again. It's my opinion, based on my tastes and feelings towards the songs. I never want them to recreate something just for me. I'm not that selfish.

Geez, opinions opinions.

I think I know what you're trying to say.
You mean they are less heavy and raw sounding?

[xToxin]

Nah man it's not that simple. It's just one of those things where something appeals to you more or less for the connection you have to it.

[Sett]

idk bout that but IMHO its the best closer (if you dont include republic in WP)

I will have to pretend that Damone is a closer and pick it up as my favorite.

[DeftonesNZ]

Nah man it's not that simple. It's just one of those things where something appeals to you more or less for the connection you have to it.

Think i know what you mean i don't feel any connection to Tempest just does not relate to anything going on in my life with the other tracks though i got that initial connection and that shiver down my spine.

[N0S3BLEED976]

It is always the same people who hate on everything they've done since Diamond Eyes. I think I can already tell that those will hate the new album anyway, since it certainly won't sound like your oh so beloved ATF, White Pony, S/T, etc.

Don't get mad about my opinion, bit I'm just getting tired of your nostalgic and negative attitudes... 

[Usurper]

Nah man it's not that simple. It's just one of those things where something appeals to you more or less for the connection you have to it.

Now we're getting somewhere.
That is a much better way to put it than claiming they have gone mainstream.
If you don't have the connection, that is fair to say.
I'm very interested to see which songs people latch on to with kny.
Many have preconceived notions of what certain songs will sound like and there are some surprises in store

[DeftonesNZ]

It is always the same people who hate on everything they've done since Diamond Eyes. I think I can already tell that those will hate the new album anyway, since it certainly won't sound like your oh so beloved ATF, White Pony, S/T, etc.

Don't get mad about my opinion, bit I'm just getting tired of your nostalgic and negative attitudes... 

Yeah its kind of a bummer ill get all excited about new stuff and then come on hear to see what people think and alot just poke holes but people are allowed their opinions ,probably deftones fault for setting such high standards

[N0S3BLEED976]

I'm fine with them having their opinions, but their overall negativity just saddens me. I mean, it's only two weeks to go until KNY comes out. This whole place should brim over with excitement! 

[Usurper]

It is always the same people who hate on everything they've done since Diamond Eyes. I think I can already tell that those will hate the new album anyway, since it certainly won't sound like your oh so beloved ATF, White Pony, S/T, etc.

Don't get mad about my opinion, bit I'm just getting tired of your nostalgic and negative attitudes... 

Yeah its kind of a bummer ill get all excited about new stuff and then come on hear to see what people think and alot just poke holes but people are allowed their opinions ,probably deftones fault for setting such high standards

That deftones change with every album is one of the main reasons I love them. What other band has done that while maintaining integrity? Don't worry I'll wait...

Look what happens to other bands that try to recreate a sound from past albums. Korn, Metallica, etc...
I know that's comparing apples to shotguns, but my point is, if I want to listen to ATF, ill put on ATF. I don't need something that almost sounds like ATF. I know deftones would be able to pull it off, but I'd rather have something new