Koi No Yokan thread

Slacker · Nov 10, 2012, 08:37 PM

this shit has sink in. hifi helps...a lot. after doing the lyrics exercise. i now get the picture.

the melodic approach aint bad, when excuted good.

i love the vocal production on this one, i've always enjoyed chino's vocal style and phrase (not the only one obviously) but i've always loved the production aspect of it, on most of the albums (at list). for some reason most of the artist dont really like the dobletracking or overdubs, but they tend to add all that richness and fullness to choruses or any determined song parts, that ned to be accentuated.

i love nick's work on here, on hifi you can hear all the vocals layers on the choruses...its beautiful.

now on the phrasing...im still dealing with the poppy "ohhs" on swerve city, too much 30stm shit going on? maybe... but i still love the song and is one of my favs...

then is the chorus of goon squad...at first i thought on 311, but then i realize that is just pure vintage helmet. of course it was weird and shocking ar first, as both band have such a different vocal phrasing, but its surprisingly refreshing and engaging, when putted on the context that deftones, have always referenced helmet as of their most notorious influences. although for not so fans of helmet, i can see why this could be so disengaging and disconcerting.

the rest is just the continuation of the straight pop melodical approach that chino has adopted, yes a departure of his more hardcore trademark phrasing, though you couldn't state its all gone. there are still plenty of trademark chino all over koi no yokan.

so in the end, my koi no yokan moment only took 4 days to become, love at first site.

GrandeJano · Nov 10, 2012, 08:45 PM

Quote from: iceache on Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
Ok.. after listening to What happened to you and reading the lyrics... that song is the most beautiful they've ever written. Hands down. May be their best song ever.

I seriously agree completely. Had the exact same moment with the reading the lyrics while listening to it for the fourth or fifth time. Didnt really enjoyed it at first actually, almost skipped it. For me a total grower, perfect song.

Electron§ · Nov 10, 2012, 08:50 PM

Quote from: GrandeJano on Nov 10, 2012, 08:45 PM

Quote from: iceache on Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
Ok.. after listening to What happened to you and reading the lyrics... that song is the most beautiful they've ever written. Hands down. May be their best song ever.

I seriously agree completely. Had the exact same moment with the reading the lyrics while listening to it for the fourth or fifth time. Didnt really enjoyed it at first actually, almost skipped it. For me a total grower, perfect song.

Nice lyrics. Shitty song.

"Rosemary" is a better candidate for their best song if you wanna say that about KNY stuff.

deftoner664 · Nov 10, 2012, 08:53 PM

SNW and this album pair together so well.... Kinda like good cheese with fine wine..

Vesanic · Nov 10, 2012, 09:54 PM

Quote from: iceache on Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
Ok.. after listening to What happened to you and reading the lyrics... that song is the most beautiful they've ever written. Hands down. May be their best song ever.

I just what no.

Playhouse · Nov 10, 2012, 09:59 PM

Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 10, 2012, 09:54 PM
Quote from: iceache on Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
Ok.. after listening to What happened to you and reading the lyrics... that song is the most beautiful they've ever written. Hands down. May be their best song ever.

I just what no.

haha you dont agree ves?

iceache · Nov 10, 2012, 10:04 PM

Quote from: Playhouse on Nov 10, 2012, 09:59 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 10, 2012, 09:54 PM
Quote from: iceache on Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
Ok.. after listening to What happened to you and reading the lyrics... that song is the most beautiful they've ever written. Hands down. May be their best song ever.

I just what no.
haha you dont agree ves?

He hates deftones, surprise surprise.

Vesanic · Nov 10, 2012, 10:07 PM

I don't think WHTY is their best song so that means I hate them? Shrewd.

shine down unshy · Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 PM

What Happened To You? Their best song? Nope.

Playhouse · Nov 10, 2012, 10:19 PM

Quote from: shine down unshy on Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 PM
What Happened To You? Their best song? Nope.

I think romantic dreams is up there with one of their best.

Slacker · Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 PM

whty? is beautiful, and its cool that y'all love it. but to say it is the best song they've ever written...seems like a long shot...

considering there was this one song, back in 96/97 called bqad...

beansandcornbread · Nov 10, 2012, 10:41 PM

Quote from: Slacker on Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
whty? is beautiful, and its cool that y'all love it. but to say it is the best song they've ever written...seems like a long shot...

considering there was this one song, back in 96/97 called bqad...

To be fair he said most beautiful. I love it. Very different from anything I've heard them do.

scatterbrain · Nov 10, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 10, 2012, 10:07 PM
I don't think WHTY is their best song so that means I hate them? Shrewd.

Do you still think its one of there worst though?has it grown on you at all?

xToxin · Nov 10, 2012, 11:01 PM

Around here if you're negative you're a troll and you hate the band. Great logic. What the fuck accept an opinion.

Playhouse · Nov 10, 2012, 11:09 PM

Quote from: xToxin on Nov 10, 2012, 11:01 PM
Around here if you're negative you're a troll and you hate the band. Great logic. What the fuck accept an opinion.

His opinion is that your a troll. Accept that.

Vesanic · Nov 10, 2012, 11:22 PM

He's not. He's just sincere. I feel your feels, bro. WHTY? is not their best song at all. It's not even a matter of opinion. What the fuck are you on, for fuck's sake.

FNatt · Nov 10, 2012, 11:30 PM

So, I rated all the songs from each Deftones album (1 to 5 ratings), and this is how it came up :

Adrenaline - 3.19 [EDIT]
Around The Fur - 4.18
White Pony - 4.29
Deftones - 3.70
Saturday Night Wrist - 3.91
Diamond Eyes - 4.13
Koi No Yokan - 4.18

Apparently, White Pony is my favorite album.

(I didn't rate Adrenaline yet as I am not very familiar with it. I like 7 Words, Birthmark, Root and Engine No.9 and I don't like Lifter and Minus Blindfold but the rest of the songs I don't know well enough to rate them. Going to give it a few more listens.)

spiraltune · Nov 10, 2012, 11:34 PM

What's Everybody's fav. track on Koi No Yokan or at least the one that hits home with you the most and why? people that are not keen about the album, isn't there at least one track that you enjoy?

My go to track from the album is Romantic Dreams because its so different and weird. I love the time signature changes and temp changes. Chorus sounds epic and makes me feel like im being shot into space. there's a lot of dynamics in this song. Me being a drummer I enjoy Abes drumming for this track.

Poltergeist lurks around for the number 1 spot sometimes. depends on my mood or if I'm heavily medicated Lol!

beansandcornbread · Nov 10, 2012, 11:54 PM

Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 10, 2012, 11:22 PM
He's not. He's just sincere. I feel your feels, bro. WHTY? is not their best song at all. It's not even a matter of opinion. What the fuck are you on, for fuck's sake.

When every post has something negative it sure feels that way. No one claimed is was their best song. And yes, it is a matter of opinion. For fuck's sake.

Vesanic · Nov 10, 2012, 11:58 PM

Quote from: beansandcornbread on Nov 10, 2012, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 10, 2012, 11:22 PM
He's not. He's just sincere. I feel your feels, bro. WHTY? is not their best song at all. It's not even a matter of opinion. What the fuck are you on, for fuck's sake.

When every post has something negative it sure feels that way. No one claimed is was their best song. And yes, it is a matter of opinion. For fuck's sake.

iceache claimed it. Their catalogue is way too vast and full of different directions you can't really say a song as simple as What Happened To You? is their best, can you? Whatever...