Deftones Tour: Live guide + video footage

cvthedrv · Mar 06, 2016, 03:23 PM

im suffering

77years · Mar 06, 2016, 03:54 PM

Okay that bridge on Doomed User is insane... and the guitar is sharp... I find it hard to believe Steph would feel that isn't his thing, Chino is struggling on the first go-round but on the second bridge he nails it... the song shifts gears so abruptly so many times it's hard for him to get his bearings to sing it straight through without stopping. Kind of like Romantic Dreams type shifts

The chorus is intense, it is (another) song that sounds hard to pull off live

jaypayton · Mar 06, 2016, 05:38 PM

if you people are going to compare chino to Mike Patton you are going to lose time and time again. Chino as a live vocalist isnt even on the same planet as MP (who basically has never had an off night in 25 years)

based on the vids I saw last night Chino sounds like shit. I dont think it has anything to do with vocal training, I think it has to do with how fat he has gotten. Fat Chino=shit vocals. just watch a 2006 video....its no coincidence he sounded great in 2010 when he was thin again....the dude just doesnt give a fuck anymore. oh and same boring setlist (aside from rickets)

LG95 · Mar 06, 2016, 05:46 PM

Quote from: jaypayton on Mar 06, 2016, 05:38 PM
if you people are going to compare chino to Mike Patton you are going to lose time and time again. Chino as a live vocalist isnt even on the same planet as MP (who basically has never had an off night in 25 years)

based on the vids I saw last night Chino sounds like shit. I dont think it has anything to do with vocal training, I think it has to do with how fat he has gotten. Fat Chino=shit vocals. just watch a 2006 video....its no coincidence he sounded great in 2010 when he was thin again....the dude just doesnt give a fuck anymore. oh and same boring setlist (aside from rickets)

Yeah because there are no good overweight vocalists obviously.

luisch · Mar 06, 2016, 05:57 PM

I read he had pneumonia lately

sharinglungs · Mar 06, 2016, 07:24 PM

Quote from: luisch on Mar 06, 2016, 05:57 PM
I read he had pneumonia lately

I figured he had to be sick, the last tour they did they were on fire on every level.. for chino to be off now would be odd.

guizz · Mar 06, 2016, 07:36 PM

Bad news : Chino sounds like shit
Good News : I'm feeling this song. A lot of dynamics, and that chorus is weird yet catchy. Good new song. Hopefully the Production/Mixing is there to complement it well.

jaypayton · Mar 06, 2016, 07:42 PM

Quote from: LG95 on Mar 06, 2016, 05:46 PM
Quote from: jaypayton on Mar 06, 2016, 05:38 PM
if you people are going to compare chino to Mike Patton you are going to lose time and time again. Chino as a live vocalist isnt even on the same planet as MP (who basically has never had an off night in 25 years)

based on the vids I saw last night Chino sounds like shit. I dont think it has anything to do with vocal training, I think it has to do with how fat he has gotten. Fat Chino=shit vocals. just watch a 2006 video....its no coincidence he sounded great in 2010 when he was thin again....the dude just doesnt give a fuck anymore. oh and same boring setlist (aside from rickets)
Yeah because there are no good overweight vocalists obviously.

Im talking about Chino specifically....basing this on HIS track record....when he got fat in 06 his vocals were absolutely horrible..when he got thin in 2010 his vocals were on point..now he's fat again and shock of shocks, his vocals are off..he has yet to prove he can pull it off on a consistent basis when hes overweight

pelican fly · Mar 06, 2016, 07:45 PM

Quote from: guizz on Mar 06, 2016, 07:36 PM
Bad news : Chino sounds like shit
Good News : I'm feeling this song. A lot of dynamics, and that chorus is weird yet catchy. Good new song. Hopefully the Production/Mixing is there to complement it well.

Yes. I loved Poltergiest when it was played live early on but the record version is almost unbearable to listen to. The guitar sounds good on it at least.

I love the way this song sounds. Given the quality of most of the videos suck, I actually like the direction of the song and I'm sure this will be the lead single and will probably released this Tues.

Can't wait to hear this record.

LG95 · Mar 06, 2016, 07:58 PM

Quote from: jaypayton on Mar 06, 2016, 07:42 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 06, 2016, 05:46 PM
Quote from: jaypayton on Mar 06, 2016, 05:38 PM
if you people are going to compare chino to Mike Patton you are going to lose time and time again. Chino as a live vocalist isnt even on the same planet as MP (who basically has never had an off night in 25 years)

based on the vids I saw last night Chino sounds like shit. I dont think it has anything to do with vocal training, I think it has to do with how fat he has gotten. Fat Chino=shit vocals. just watch a 2006 video....its no coincidence he sounded great in 2010 when he was thin again....the dude just doesnt give a fuck anymore. oh and same boring setlist (aside from rickets)
Yeah because there are no good overweight vocalists obviously.

Im talking about Chino specifically....basing this on HIS track record....when he got fat in 06 his vocals were absolutely horrible..when he got thin in 2010 his vocals were on point..now he's fat again and shock of shocks, his vocals are off..he has yet to prove he can pull it off on a consistent basis when hes overweight

I agree that he's worse when he puts on weight but the issue is whether that's a root factor. I think the big issue is technical - if his consistency, vocal stamina, breath control etc was good then him putting on weight wouldn't be as big a deal. Unfortunately because he's not very good on that front, his problems get shown up when he does start putting on the pounds. The basic problem is technical; it's just harder to cover if he's not as fit.

guizz · Mar 06, 2016, 08:05 PM

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 05:45 PM
No, it is the lack of training. A fat guy can definitely be an awesome metal singer.

Being in very good shape is important for a singer that moves a lot on the stage like chino does. Being out of breath does not help your voice. But I'm not saying it's the only factor.

el perro · Mar 06, 2016, 08:09 PM

Doomed User sounds dysfunctional which I like but it sounds like a Chino metal song. Like Stef said he's the glue on this album. He took songs written by Chino and Serj and just made them tighter. I do like that Chino's singing in a manageable key for once. Overall though it's disappointing that what I've heard so far that they haven't really done anything different on this album. It's still the same style.

guizz · Mar 06, 2016, 08:27 PM

Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:09 PM
"Chino metal song"

what does that even mean?

el perro · Mar 06, 2016, 08:41 PM

Quote from: guizz on Mar 06, 2016, 08:27 PM
Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:09 PM
"Chino metal song"
what does that even mean?

A metal song that Chino wrote which Steph plays.

cvthedrv · Mar 06, 2016, 09:10 PM

Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:41 PM
Quote from: guizz on Mar 06, 2016, 08:27 PM
Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:09 PM
"Chino metal song"
what does that even mean?
A metal song that Chino wrote which Steph plays.

how do you know that?

guizz · Mar 06, 2016, 09:28 PM

Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:41 PM
Quote from: guizz on Mar 06, 2016, 08:27 PM
Quote from: el perro on Mar 06, 2016, 08:09 PM
"Chino metal song"
what does that even mean?
A metal song that Chino wrote which Steph plays.

So is Rocket Skate a chino metal song or a steph metal song? what about a deftones metal song?

cvthedrv · Mar 06, 2016, 09:41 PM

what is metal, what is song, what is deftones, what is love.

guizz · Mar 06, 2016, 10:43 PM

Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 06, 2016, 09:41 PM
what is metal, what is song, what is deftones, what is love.

Baby don't hurt me, no more.

cvthedrv · Mar 06, 2016, 11:54 PM

Quote from: guizz on Mar 06, 2016, 10:43 PM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 06, 2016, 09:41 PM
what is metal, what is song, what is deftones, what is love.
Baby don't hurt me, no more.

a doomed user at the roxbury.

ANattyRat · Mar 07, 2016, 03:47 AM

Quote from: luisch on Mar 06, 2016, 05:57 PM
I read he had pneumonia lately

Yeah, I read that too. When he's talking, his voice sounds a bit weird, so I imagine that at least played a part in the vocals. I mean, he sounded awesome on their tour with Incubus or whenever it was that they were playing When Girls Telephone Boys. He does seem to get pneumonia a lot though, this dude needs to boost up his immune system, haha.