Deftones Tour: Live guide + video footage

[Smog]

UH OHHH... Vesanic's story on facebook:

For the little story, I'm not going to explain how, but I got to talk to Chino in a "private" space for a couple. I had the chance to tell him about my everlasting love for Pink Maggit since White Pony came out. I told him about everything I did for the Deftones community. Not to brag about it, but just to let him know that for so long, I had been faithfully devoted to the band and the community. I gave him my truest self and told him about how the album saved my life, in a physical way. Those who read my winning story on the sharinglungs contest know. I shared with him a very sincere aspect of my life. Straight up to my face, he said they would play it. He did.

Eventually, the first Paris show was the most terrible Deftones show I've ever been to. The setlist was lame, Chino's voice was in dust and he skipped or changed many, many parts. The setlist was lame as shit, they skipped Nosebleed, and they didn't even include Rivière. Most people didn't even know Dai The Flu.

Long story short, Chino lied to me, and it's not the first time. I would never ask an artist to listen to everything their fans tell him. But I'd have him telling me he doesn't want to play it rather than telling me he will just to get rid of an annoying fan.

Chino Moreno has changed as an artist. His onstage act is not the same anymore, the fans aren't the same anymore, everything's changed. Tonight will be my last Deftones show. If people disagree, see me as an annoying, unfaithful fan, I don't give a shit. Chino wasted one of his most devoted fans, and he doesn't even give a fuck.

I won't be as "extreme" as V. on this one but i'm a french fan from adrenaline (album and tour), i was at le trianon last night and i agree with V. on some facts: they skipped Engine !!!! Wtf !!!!
Just watch the bloody cape video (the one from Carson show in particular) and the one from Paris last night... Chino is not "the" Chino we knew in the late 90's until 2003 era, he lost his voice, and as a fan of the band, he has all my respect to still come and sing the best he can, and the band is still a huge and strong band!
Who are we to want something from a band? They give us their music: if you like it, ok, great. But if you don't anymore, just listen to something else or still listen to the same album you liked, but don't ask a band to be the same old band you liked 10 years ago.
Music is an art, it evolves, so do we, as human beings. I'm kind of frustrated because i didn't feel the energy of "the" deftones i was a fan of 10 years ago. But i can't blame them for that and again, they have all my respect to still be there!!! Long life to deftones, whatever they decide to do next!

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I just dont like how he thinks they owe him something.
Chino would get so many people coming up to him telling him their stories and experiences with their music.
Im sure he was cool and respectful to ves when he told them his story.
But to expect them to definitley slip in a 7 minute song that they have not played for years, to a set that's been rehearsed, with organised changeovers, mix levels, lighting cues that have been thought out is ignorant.

And fuck the people that are saying, its so bad that he lied about saying they would play it.
He probably asked the band and they said they can't do it or he rightfully decided he didn't feel like playing it. And of course Chino isn't going to run around the venue looking for ves to tell him 'oh sorry man, we can't play it, i feel so bad '.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

[kurtone]

Doesn't be talk a lot of shit about where the band (especially Chino) are at musically now? Wonder if he told them about how much trash he talks on the board. I'm not trying to attack ves in any way and I appreciate everything he'd done for sharing lungs, but just curious...

[cesar421]

According to setlist.fm they played Rickets.

[closertothelung]

I just dont like how he thinks they owe him something.
Chino would get so many people coming up to him telling him their stories and experiences with their music.
Im sure he was cool and respectful to ves when he told them his story.
But to expect them to definitley slip in a 7 minute song that they have not played for years, to a set that's been rehearsed, with organised changeovers, mix levels, lighting cues that have been thought out is ignorant.

And fuck the people that are saying, its so bad that he lied about saying they would play it.
He probably asked the band and they said they can't do it or he rightfully decided he didn't feel like playing it. And of course Chino isn't going to run around the venue looking for ves to tell him 'oh sorry man, we can't play it, i feel so bad '.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

You're kidding me, right?

Correct, the band owes him nothing, and he is entirely aware of this. Trust me, he did not expect them to "definitely" play this song. Remember Amsterdam, when he and others got them to play Combat and The Boy's Republic? On this day, they discussed many rarities, and Pink Maggit was one of these. On this day, Chino shot him down, which was fine. This time, Ves was given false hope. What was the point in Chino saying that they would definitely play the song to him if there was a doubt? That is the issue here.

As for suggesting that Ves has twisted their words, there would be no point in doing this. He has nothing to gain from it, except assholes such as yourself getting on his ass about being disappointed by a band that was his favourite for years. And that's hardly something anyone would intentionally wish to add to their roster of nuisances.

Now, I suggest you shut the fuck up, sweetheart.

[closertothelung]

According to setlist.fm they played Rickets.

Shit, good on them for changing it up tonight. At last.

I wonder what that unknown was? If it was anything, I mean.

[DeftonesNZ]

I hate how Chino is being vilified here he took the time out of his busy schedule to listen to V he had every right to tell him to fuck right off like alot of other famous singers would maybe he felt like he couldn't say no after hearing his story or maybe he actually did intend to play it but couldn't either way he still doesn't to be shit talked like this, V has done alot for the community but I bet everyone who meets Chino says they're the biggest fan, I personally would just be stoked to have a private chat with the guys I wouldn't ask anything more of them.

[Vesanic]

According to setlist.fm they played Rickets.

Bullshit.

2013-02-23 - Le Trianon, Paris, France

Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)
Lotion
My Own Summer (Shove It)
Lhabia
Minerva
Diamond Eyes
Rocket Skates
You've Seen The Butcher
Feiticeira
Digital Bath
Tempest
Poltergeist
Entombed
Swerve City
Rivière
Change (In the House of Flies)
Engine No. 9
7 Words [Initially Nosebleed]

Encore

Nosebleed
Root [Initially 7 Words]

Stef also played the riff of Bored and Lifter during the encore, don't really know why.


Oh, and he told me the only reason they weren't playing Pink Maggit is he "can't get the tone right".

[luisch]

Long life to deftones, whatever they decide to do next!

Amen!

According to setlist.fm they played Minerva, You've Seen the Butcher, Leathers and Digital Bath..

[Vesanic]

I just dont like how he thinks they owe him something.
Chino would get so many people coming up to him telling him their stories and experiences with their music.
Im sure he was cool and respectful to ves when he told them his story.
But to expect them to definitley slip in a 7 minute song that they have not played for years, to a set that's been rehearsed, with organised changeovers, mix levels, lighting cues that have been thought out is ignorant.

And fuck the people that are saying, its so bad that he lied about saying they would play it.
He probably asked the band and they said they can't do it or he rightfully decided he didn't feel like playing it. And of course Chino isn't going to run around the venue looking for ves to tell him 'oh sorry man, we can't play it, i feel so bad '.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

Never said the band owed me anything, neither do I think so. I just wanted Chino to be true. If he didn't want to play it and had said right to my face "Man, I don't wanna play it", it would have been just fine.


Just wanna say the second Paris show was off the hook. Loved it.

[nineteen]

According to setlist.fm they played Rickets.

Bullshit.

2013-02-23 - Le Trianon, Paris, France

Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)
Lotion
My Own Summer (Shove It)
Lhabia
Minerva
Diamond Eyes
Rocket Skates
You've Seen The Butcher
Feiticeira
Digital Bath
Tempest
Poltergeist
Entombed
Swerve City
Rivière
Change (In the House of Flies)
Engine No. 9
7 Words [Initially Nosebleed]

Encore

Nosebleed
Root [Initially 7 Words]

Stef also played the riff of Bored and Lifter during the encore, don't really know why.


Oh, and he told me the only reason they weren't playing Pink Maggit is he "can't get the tone right".

That's actually a good setlist. Good to see Minerva and Lhabia in there.

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I just dont like how he thinks they owe him something.
Chino would get so many people coming up to him telling him their stories and experiences with their music.
Im sure he was cool and respectful to ves when he told them his story.
But to expect them to definitley slip in a 7 minute song that they have not played for years, to a set that's been rehearsed, with organised changeovers, mix levels, lighting cues that have been thought out is ignorant.

And fuck the people that are saying, its so bad that he lied about saying they would play it.
He probably asked the band and they said they can't do it or he rightfully decided he didn't feel like playing it. And of course Chino isn't going to run around the venue looking for ves to tell him 'oh sorry man, we can't play it, i feel so bad '.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

You're kidding me, right?

Correct, the band owes him nothing, and he is entirely aware of this. Trust me, he did not expect them to "definitely" play this song. Remember Amsterdam, when he and others got them to play Combat and The Boy's Republic? On this day, they discussed many rarities, and Pink Maggit was one of these. On this day, Chino shot him down, which was fine. This time, Ves was given false hope. What was the point in Chino saying that they would definitely play the song to him if there was a doubt? That is the issue here.

As for suggesting that Ves has twisted their words, there would be no point in doing this. He has nothing to gain from it, except assholes such as yourself getting on his ass about being disappointed by a band that was his favourite for years. And that's hardly something anyone would intentionally wish to add to their roster of nuisances.

Now, I suggest you shut the fuck up, sweetheart.

Your right. How dare Chino give Ves false hope. It's not acceptable at all. He should of told V the truth. I can't believe it.

[nicklav]

According to setlist.fm they played Rickets.

Bullshit.

2013-02-23 - Le Trianon, Paris, France

Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)
Lotion
My Own Summer (Shove It)
Lhabia
Minerva
Diamond Eyes
Rocket Skates
You've Seen The Butcher
Feiticeira
Digital Bath
Tempest
Poltergeist
Entombed
Swerve City
Rivière
Change (In the House of Flies)
Engine No. 9
7 Words [Initially Nosebleed]

Encore

Nosebleed
Root [Initially 7 Words]

Stef also played the riff of Bored and Lifter during the encore, don't really know why.


Oh, and he told me the only reason they weren't playing Pink Maggit is he "can't get the tone right".

You spoke with them again? What happened?

[Vesanic]

Won't get any more beef going on. The worst Deftones fan ever is now leaving you all alone.

Thanks to all the people here I had a great time with. As for the others, be safe and have a good time here too. Y'all are Deftones fans and y'all deserve to be treated in a cool way as long as you respect the others' opinions, no matter how strongly you agree/disagree wth them. Remember that.


Much love.

[TheShade1989]

Don't know if Sly or anyone mentioned this yet, but Romain got to talk to Stef today, and he said that they wouldn't be playing it because he "couldn't get the right tone". Which is fair enough. I'm just glad that a straight answer has been given, rather than more false hope.

I do hope they change up the set in some way tonight, and not just for his sake.

They're not music-making machines, they have feelings and thoughts and opinions, they dont stay in the same place.

I think that's the point, though--they're acting like machines, in a sense. They're simply going through the motions, playing the same robotic set, their music and antics becoming more "formulaic" than ever, and so on. I know that I don't see any spontaneity, or even simply emotion in what they do anymore, and haven't seen that in a few years.

That's not what I meant by machines though. People want them to stay as they were a while back, all dark and fucked up on drugs to add to the awesome atmosphere, different setlists all the time, etc. Yeah, you'd want the setlists switched up and whatnot, but things have changed. I get what you mean saying it's like going through the motions, but I dont see it that way because they seem happy doing it. It's a case of accepting it and not getting pissed off that they've changed as humans and as musicians. It happens. It sucks, but that's life, and I think it's stupid to get so pissed off about it. Like...they've been playing repetitive setlists for a few yrs now, but Vesanic decided to spend his money and time to go see them, knowing that it'll most likely be the same 'lame' setlist, and then gets annoyed and gives up on them because the likely outcome is what's happened. Just seems stupid to me, things are the way they are. Noone has to like it, but no point getting mad at something you knew was gonna probably happen. Things have been this way for a good while now, it shouldnt be a surprise.

[BillyNo.9]

I guess all I can say is it sucks that I wasn't around during the peak of their career, been able to see them in the ATF - ST days when Chi was still screaming like a motherfucker.  Although I got into the band after Saturday night wrist was even released, I can see that it's a whole different version of deftones. Still my favourite band, but no thanks to the last 2 albums. I'm living in the past I was never apart of with this band.

[sooniletugo]

That setlist's awesome, thats the kind of thing we wanna see, shaking things up. And what's that, they didn't close with 7 Words? Hope Ves will look past this and come back soon. His words with the band has obviously had some effect here.

[Danny Keyes]

that's what happens when you play god... reality slaps you in the face.

[pony_01]

I have a solution for people that getting bored from the setlist.
STOP WATCHING DEFTONES LIVE ON YOUTUBE. you watch them every gig every night thats why you getting bored with them.
for god sake, a setlist was made because they want it to be that way, they want to played it, thats not your band, thats chino's stepehen's abe's delgado's chi's and sergio's band, they gonna played everything they WANT to play.

DONT YOU ALL GUYS JUST DANCE TO ANY DEFTONES SONG? damn

just sayin, a concert is not about to satisfied one biggest fan ever, but to satisfied every fan that attend to the concert. enjoy the fucking setlist, if you want to hear your favorite song, play the mp3s.

one more, just my opinion, maybe setlist was too monotone, they played same setlist everynight, just because they dont think that a fan who attend to their gig wont attend to the next one. why? because the band knows they already made them satisfied. thats just my opinion. AND playing the same setlist over and over again helping the band to perfecting their performance. I never heard deftones played live so clean before DE era, which is a good thing. just give this band a little room, they want to be better for us.

[Northcal]

Deftones please put the weed down. Start doin coke and crystal and play diff stuff and make a angry album.lol