PALMS [new Chino Moreno side project]

[from_musings]

Sort of a mix between Team Sleep and Crosses, it's really dreamy like the Team Sleep but without the hectic drums and with the same vocal sound as crosses.

I think it's just not what people who usually follow him are used to

[DeftonesNZ]

Sort of a mix between Team Sleep and Crosses, it's really dreamy like the Team Sleep but without the hectic drums and with the same vocal sound as crosses.

I think it's just not what people who usually follow him are used to

how do you not get that ? It's something new with elements of both projects, people aren't really used to Chino doing the upbeat slow stuff he's been getting into of late like on KNY, Team Sleep although sometimes slow was a lot darker and bitter thematically and sonically, Crosses was slightly more positive but it was also really busy instrumentally.

[from_musings]

I agree with the first description, but since the song is a mix of previous chino side projects, then I don't really understand that it would something that we're not used to. if anything, it's getting a little old. hopefully they will do something that we're not used to on the other tracks. this song is mediocre at best, sounds like a song chino wrote himself in 15 minutes. maybe 10.

[DeftonesNZ]

My point was Chino has done one or the other only recently has he started the more dreamy positive ambient stuff, I like the song but I also agree with you I think the project has alot more potential given the talent involved I'm hoping to see some more Isis influence in the other stuff but I'm not going to write off yet we've only heard a demo it might not even make to the final release.

[gwenudo]

You cant judge palms yet guys. You have to listen to the album in its intirely before you go critisizing it that its gay and too soft and lame.. i still think its an amazing track.. but for all we know that could be the softest track on the album. So no.. dont judge them too soon..

[cvthedrv]

You cant judge palms yet guys. You have to listen to the album in its intirely before you go critisizing it that its gay and too soft and lame.. i still think its an amazing track.. but for all we know that could be the softest track on the album. So no.. dont judge them too soon..

just listen to ISIS and compare, for FUCK'S SAKE!!!!

[cvthedrv]

You cant judge palms yet guys. You have to listen to the album in its intirely before you go critisizing it that its gay and too soft and lame.. i still think its an amazing track.. but for all we know that could be the softest track on the album. So no.. dont judge them too soon..

just listen to ISIS and compare, for FUCK'S SAKE!!!!

Nah nah, regarding that I can agree. I think the track's an absolute failure but we must wait for the pull picture to judge and give an appreciation of the band. Who knows, the fact there's a track like that doesn't NECESSARILY mean there's not some badass heaviness in there. It might be doubtful but you know, even though he definitely took a step in the land of pop influences, he's still the lead singer of one of the most respected METAL bands ever, and that metal singer is singing with the members of ISIS. I'm sure their musical roots made them want to get loud at some point.

Once again, I have nothing against soft music at all. I just think that this specific track sucks, not because it's soft. It's just dull and empty to me. BUT you can't possibly imagine Chino Moreno in ISIS and not expect some noise. I know I can't.

yes, thats what i waiting for, the end of isis was really painful, and the constantly softness of chino's influence is getting weaker with every release, i hope this wont be the same.

[DeftonesNZ]

I hope at some point they get loud otherwise it seems redundant having all of them in the band when it's just Chino singing over a produced beat, can't wait to hear some real drums from Aaron especially

[gwenudo]

You cant judge palms yet guys. You have to listen to the album in its intirely before you go critisizing it that its gay and too soft and lame.. i still think its an amazing track.. but for all we know that could be the softest track on the album. So no.. dont judge them too soon..

just listen to ISIS and compare, for FUCK'S SAKE!!!!

Ive been listening to isis for years. They are not making isis songs man. Thry are making palms.. a new band.. not ISIS ver.2.. and its just one track .. judge the track go ahead.. but im sure their is more to this band than that one track.

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You cant judge palms yet guys. You have to listen to the album in its intirely before you go critisizing it that its gay and too soft and lame.. i still think its an amazing track.. but for all we know that could be the softest track on the album. So no.. dont judge them too soon..

just listen to ISIS and compare, for FUCK'S SAKE!!!!

Nah nah, regarding that I can agree. I think the track's an absolute failure but we must wait for the pull picture to judge and give an appreciation of the band. Who knows, the fact there's a track like that doesn't NECESSARILY mean there's not some badass heaviness in there. It might be doubtful but you know, even though he definitely took a step in the land of pop influences, he's still the lead singer of one of the most respected METAL bands ever, and that metal singer is singing with the members of ISIS. I'm sure their musical roots made them want to get loud at some point.

Once again, I have nothing against soft music at all. I just think that this specific track sucks, not because it's soft. It's just dull and empty to me. BUT you can't possibly imagine Chino Moreno in ISIS and not expect some noise. I know I can't.

Definitely agree.

[alan1o]

Just listened. It's alright. Sounds like Crosses to me, with that distinctive ISIS bass tone. I too hope to hear more post-metal / ISIS influence coming through.

I have to say, i'm not digging this cleaner style vocals Chino is doing now. He's lost some of the characteristics I loved about his voice

[DaniknifeParty Ænema]

i like the song, and everything that chino touches for me turns into gold. But we already have crosses, we have team sleep, i hope now, that we have something more heavy from chino, i will wait and then have the balls to judge Palms for what it is and not for what i wish...

[hi man]

chino and his waves

[elite54]

Crosses lyrics on top of a Team Sleep demo is what it sounds like to me.

[deftoner664]

chino and his waves

NO doubt. How many songs do we have now where he mentions waves?  It's almost becoming one of his lyrical gimmicks, just like the long accentuated " Youuuuuuuuuu"'s in his past works.

[gwenudo]

chino and his waves

NO doubt. How many songs do we have now where he mentions waves?  It's almost becoming one of his lyrical gimmicks, just like the long accentuated " Youuuuuuuuuu"'s in his past works.

Or the ric flair woo's

[dictatesofreason]

Jesus Stalin! quit complaining, all you "defontes" fans and admins and shit quit man, its fucking annoying! all you people ever do is get one here and see what some ones opinion is and then you smashit! this is about fucking music bro. The reason that most level headed logical people love his music IS BECAUSE he does whatever the fuck he wants with it, he bows neither to the wishes of the record label nor to the fans. Accept what he does and live it, if you dont dig this new shit then fine BUT GET OUT OF THE DAMN THREAD! I could care less what rank you are Mod, or elite to pink maggit man your afuckin human you have no say what another human does with his creative skills, go away.

As for "tropics" besides being unmastered, i feel that this is another insight to the mans brain, with everything he does we see a shade of the same light, and different facet of the same gem, and I like what i hear, like I started saying years ago, everything this man touches turns to to gold, and this song is no less an example. Its unfinished and still may yet have some parts to be added in, but if this is a taste of whats to come consider me starving, The chorus and verse may seem lenghty or repetative but just becasue something is different doesnt make it bad we've seen that with crosses and KONY, (yes KONY) so I personally can't wait for more.

[nicklav]

Jesus Stalin! quit complaining, all you "defontes" fans and admins and shit quit man, its fucking annoying! all you people ever do is get one here and see what some ones opinion is and then you smashit! this is about fucking music bro. The reason that most level headed logical people love his music IS BECAUSE he does whatever the fuck he wants with it, he bows neither to the wishes of the record label nor to the fans. Accept what he does and live it, if you dont dig this new shit then fine BUT GET OUT OF THE DAMN THREAD! I could care less what rank you are Mod, or elite to pink maggit man your afuckin human you have no say what another human does with his creative skills, go away.

As for "tropics" besides being unmastered, i feel that this is another insight to the mans brain, with everything he does we see a shade of the same light, and different facet of the same gem, and I like what i hear, like I started saying years ago, everything this man touches turns to to gold, and this song is no less an example. Its unfinished and still may yet have some parts to be added in, but if this is a taste of whats to come consider me starving, The chorus and verse may seem lenghty or repetative but just becasue something is different doesnt make it bad we've seen that with crosses and KONY, (yes KONY) so I personally can't wait for more.

You have no right to tell others what to think, or where to go to say what they think. This isn't a thread titled "Heap praise on Palms". It's a thread where people can come to discuss the band. Some people don't like it? Tough. Ignore them. They still have the right to express their dislike.

[Inkblades]

People expecting heaviness from Palms are going to be disappointed. Harris has already said in interviews that the album isn't that heavy. Maybe there will be moments, but if you're looking for something that is really metal, look elsewhere. It should also be noted that the guys from Isis were writing the music for Palms before Chino came on board, so I think a lot of it was their decision to do something softer.

By the way, I'm not disappointed by Tropics because it's a softer song. Chino has done so many amazing soft songs in his career. Too many to count. Unfortunately, Tropics just isn't one of them. I actually dig the music (even if it isn't the most complex thing the Isis guys ever written and is also aping Team Sleep), but his voice is just weak on it and the lyrics are far from his best. Maybe the final version of the song will sound better.

[elite54]

I hate to say it but his lyrics were so awesome when he wrote when he was "a little tipsy" in his words. Now, he said he writes first thing in the morning after a cup of coffee. I still like crosses, recent deftones and the the first song from palms, but the the old writing is probably gone.