Deftones Bullshit Thread

[nicklav]

I know theres a few ETID fans on here, thought this was cool that ETID singer Keith Buckley gave White Pony some props.

For me, this record [White Pony] could have been the only record on earth. It's all I listened to for years. it had everything in it that I ever wanted out of music- aggression, challenging lyrics and melodies. this was the blueprint I carried with me when I approached ETID songs.

http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/409665/the-history-of-hardcore-with-every-time-i-die.htm

Keith is a huge Deftones fan. I've seen him tweet quite a few Deftones lyrics over the years.

[N0S3BLEED976]

I think it's time to stoke the fire for the new album a bit. Anticipating the release of a new album in 2012, hearing Rosemary and "Roller Derby" for the first time, guessing what could be the album name/cover, the eventual reveal of the name, tracklist and the song Leathers, etc., was a pretty exciting and already nostalgic time for me.

Now, songwriting for the next album started in March this year and I'm curious to read what you are expecting and hoping for. I think I can speak for everyone of us that not hearing a new song at Sonisphere Festival, as it has been "promised", was pretty disappointing. I have a feeling it will take a while before we hear of any updates on the new record.

In terms of sound I'm hoping for a record that's a little heavier than KNY, with more dynamics, switching between moodier and heavy songs and having less mid-tempo ones. On KNY, I felt that sometimes the heavy songs weren't heavy enough and the more melodic, ballad-like ones weren't pretty enough, if you know what I mean.
Edit: I still love songs like Graphic Nature, Tempest, Poltergeist, Leathers and Gauze, but another record with predominantly less extremes on both sides of the scale would feel kind of lazy and safe to me.

It's a weird thing for me to say, since a good chunk of my favourite 'tones songs has Chino on guitar, but maybe it's time for Chino to take a step back from playing guitar. Perhaps this time having a tracklist with equal parts Chino with and without his guitar again. As much as I like KNY, I fear that the next album will only have songs with the same pace like e.g. Rosemary or Romantic Dreams. Right now I'm craving for energetic and heavy songs like Melanie, Rats, Kimdracula, CMND/CTRL, Leathers, etc. and usually the band delivers such songs without Chino playing the guitar. (not counting Leathers, obviously)

Like I said, I'm curious what you think.

[Northcal]

Terry date is wat we need so badly! I have a feeling that deftones are only gonna get softer now

[wheresmysnare]

Terry date is wat we need so badly! I have a feeling that deftones are only gonna get softer now

I actually think that deftones sound better these days on the softer songs where chino isnt pushing his voice, he just seems to struggle if there's too much pace/screams etc.

[Shadow46/2]

Terry date is wat we need so badly! I have a feeling that deftones are only gonna get softer now

I actually think that deftones sound better these days on the softer songs where chino isnt pushing his voice, he just seems to struggle if there's too much pace/screams etc.

Maybe live but he still sounds pristine as ever in studio, imo.

[Northcal]

A double album with hard songs on disc 1 and softer songs on disc 2 !After that Eros and that's it for the Deftones!

[DeftonesNZ]

A double album with hard songs on disc 1 and softer songs on disc 2 !After that Eros and that's it for the Deftones!

But then you lose the power of contrast, the heavy songs seem so much more brutal when put next to slow songs and the slow songs seem much more delicate and soft when put next to the super agressive songs, they just don't have the same impact when the whole albums one way or the other.

[Inkblades]

Chino must be breaking some kind of Guinness World Record with touring this fall. Deftones, Team Sleep, Crosses and Palms. Four bands!

[Diplo]

He is gonna die, or at least his voice.

[chi_no]

Awesome.

Chino Moreno - Hates Linkin Park, Fred Durst, Breakfast Club, The Terminator and Easy Access Baby

2:06 anyone know what song Chino feels Linkin Park ripped off?

I Believe It's My Own Summer

[chi_no]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVXm2x7Ekw8&list=UUiboBTIcpDLhP7yFOmnza7A
http://www.4shared.com/archive/yCphBSF6ba/Pre-Adrenaline_Demos__16082014.html

[Lucky_Me]

Linkin Park once did a cover of My Own Summer, I believe at a festival where Deftones also played. Maybe that's what Chino meant? Oh well, even though I'm a huge fan of both, I don't think the guys (=LP) did a good job covering the 'Tones. It's just not their style, I suppose.

[wheresmysnare]

Linkin Park once did a cover of My Own Summer, I believe at a festival where Deftones also played. Maybe that's what Chino meant? Oh well, even though I'm a huge fan of both, I don't think the guys (=LP) did a good job covering the 'Tones. It's just not their style, I suppose.

chino became a real dick around that time, think it was the success of white pony going to his head and maybe the fact that journo's still lumped deftones in with nu-metal.

It's pretty messed up to think hybrid theory was the best selling debut album of the 21st century, you wouldnt think it now, are they even still going?

[Lucky_Me]

@whereismyname: Yeah, Linkin Park are alive and kicking, only for a new kind of audience. I've been with them since '05 and I'll be going to a summit (=huge ass official fan meeting) of theirs in Amsterdam in a couple of days. They might be a tad off the radar, but that's because they may have had their prime and they're basically the new classics now. If you like, you can listen to the new CD they put out this year, it's called The Hunting Party and it's a lot heavier than their previous two or three records. It's funny how I got to know Deftones through their video 'Frat Party at the Pancake Festival', where they did this prank of replacing their water with vodka. That might explain why Chino used to hate them so much, haha.

Chino still seems a little reserved to me, rather cool. There's nothing wrong with that, but I wonder what he is like now that Deftones aren't, well... all that big anymore, in a non-fatty sense. (Hell, fat guys hug better, haha.) I've never had the chance to really talk to him, so can you tell me what he's really like? I'm just curious. I always wait by the bus after their gigs for a hug and a chat, but he never seems interested. Frank also appears to be a bit shy, but that might've been because I'm not always a delight to be around after gigs...  I'm a shy person, too, but after gigs, I'm usually all over the place.

[Penicks]

, but that might've been because I'm not always a delight to be around after gigs...  I'm a shy person, too, but after gigs, I'm usually all over the place.

jesus fucking christ

[VictorPL]

@whereismyname: Yeah, Linkin Park are alive and kicking, only for a new kind of audience. I've been with them since '05 and I'll be going to a summit (=huge ass official fan meeting) of theirs in Amsterdam in a couple of days. They might be a tad off the radar, but that's because they may have had their prime and they're basically the new classics now. If you like, you can listen to the new CD they put out this year, it's called The Hunting Party and it's a lot heavier than their previous two or three records. It's funny how I got to know Deftones through their video 'Frat Party at the Pancake Festival', where they did this prank of replacing their water with vodka. That might explain why Chino used to hate them so much, haha.

Chino still seems a little reserved to me, rather cool. There's nothing wrong with that, but I wonder what he is like now that Deftones aren't, well... all that big anymore, in a non-fatty sense. (Hell, fat guys hug better, haha.) I've never had the chance to really talk to him, so can you tell me what he's really like? I'm just curious. I always wait by the bus after their gigs for a hug and a chat, but he never seems interested. Frank also appears to be a bit shy, but that might've been because I'm not always a delight to be around after gigs...  I'm a shy person, too, but after gigs, I'm usually all over the place.

one of the coolest things that happend to me was a few years ago before diamond eyes came out. i flew to amsterdam with some friends to see deftones for the first time. a day before the concert im chilling in a coffee shop with my friends when suddenly my buddy goes 'hey , its chino!', im like 'yeah right' but i turned around and there he was with his gf walking into a gift shop. i got pretty excited because hes my favorite singer but im not really the type who likes to hassle people, but i had to go up to him.

so i followed him into the gift shop and just said that im a big fan and that im here to see him tomorrow and when hes done if he wouldnt mind taking a pic and that was that. i went back to my table. after a few min we see him coming out and the guy was actually walking around the bar looking for us!!! he came up to our table, we talked for like 10 min, took a pic and he left. it was pretty cool, some people say hes an ass hole but my experience was pretty positive. maybe because we actually just met him in the city by accident and it wasnt like a crowd waiting for him after a gig

[Lucky_Me]

Good to hear that you had such a nice experience with Chino. I suppose that whether he's found nice also depends on the person talking to him, you know, because fans can be real assholes and celebrities are only as human as you and I. Maybe he likes some fans better than others? That's not cruel, that's just the risk of dealing with a strong personality.

Chino sang to me in the crowd once, when I was at a gig at the 013 (Tilburg, NL). I couldn't sing a word, just smile and stare. It was really awesome. I understand the gurmies tend to drive him crazy now and then, so I try to treat them as calm and respectful as my antsy anxiety allows me to. Just go with his flow and see how far he wants to go that time -that works for almost everyone. I believe every person comes with a set of instructions, only some are a bit more difficult than others'. So be it. Artists don't shit chocolate and I've learned that some also don't like to be treated that way. Sometimes, there is just no match between fan and artist, but when there is one... magic happens.

[tarkil]

Brann Dailor from Mastodon showing appreciation for Deftones :
<quote>
7. Deftones – Around the Fur [1997]

When Deftones first erupted with Adrenaline – I wouldn’t even listen to them. I was adamant that they were just another in a long line of Korn imitators and this nu-metal scene that had popped up was something I had no interest in listening to. So I sorta wrote them off. Then one night I ended up at this party at a friend’s house and he’d put on Around the Fur – loud. So I sat down on the bed and just started listening to and falling in love with it – it's kinda dark, like ‘What the hell is this?’ He says Deftones. I’m thinking ‘Fuck!’ Oh man, I can’t deny this... so good.’ They’ve maintained that cool ever since. There’s so many different influences that they’ve somehow woven together – they’ve got this whole Cocteau Twins/4AD vibe coupled with super-heavy guitar. It works so well – from Chino’s voice to Abe’s drumming. His style’s so unique and he’s got all that groove. I love that band beyond belief; I’ll fanboy those guys to death every time I’m around them. They’re like ‘Okaaay, security – get this guy out of here.’
</quote>

The whole article is interesting anyway :
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/309428-under_influence_brann_dailor_mastodon

[chi_no]

Did you guy know that Chino is 2/5 Mexican, 1/5 Irish, 1/5 Native America and 1/5 Chinese?

[wheresmysnare]

Did you guy know that Chino is 2/5 Mexican, 1/5 Irish, 1/5 Native America and 1/5 Chinese?

yes, is there a punchline?