Deftones Bullshit Thread

[SwerveCityUSA]

so you're saying there's nothing wrong with altering your state of mind daily when smoking weed? this isn't about sporadic use, it's about full on daily abuse, and it that sense it's just as harmful as drinking a few glasses of booze every day. you become addicted to it and it changes you into an idiot. which you are because you like kny. so i'm glad you've stopped smoking it altogether, hopefully you'll stop liking kny.

the only for its legalization should be to stop the illegal trafficking so it earns some money for the government, not because it isn't harmful.

KNY is the best album ever recorded.

Stop with the alcohol comparison, you all wear it out. / What does it alter, if you can't swim, than don't get in the ocean. and once again you can't abuse it, what's the worst that could happen from smoking a lot of weed, fall asleep? and drinking booze everyday will make you lash out on everyone, even those so called hard drinkers are just selfish human beings. and I haven't stopped smoking it altogether, I'll never quit, I've just always naturally known how to use it, and it tells you when to give it a break if you listen.

But that's just, the majority of people are under the influence of that gateway drug, whats it called? alcohol and tobacco? yes! that's it. the entrance into the need and greed and selfishness of life. and then you add a little weed and blame all your problems on it even though you need not looker further then the pork on your plate.

if one was to just use herb and take care of themselves, well that is what is called holistic health.

[pony_01]

lol weed? come on man. its a plant.
brb gotta grab my munchies

[digital bath]

so you're saying there's nothing wrong with altering your state of mind daily when smoking weed? this isn't about sporadic use, it's about full on daily abuse, and it that sense it's just as harmful as drinking a few glasses of booze every day. you become addicted to it and it changes you into an idiot. which you are because you like kny. so i'm glad you've stopped smoking it altogether, hopefully you'll stop liking kny.

the only for its legalization should be to stop the illegal trafficking so it earns some money for the government, not because it isn't harmful.

he's an idiot because he likes kny... so the deftones are the bigger idiots because they made kny right?
Sorry but if you have no more arguments in a disagreement and start attacking someone personally, you have already lost.

[shoop]

How does he act like he's 15? he never brags about it he just keeps it to himself and only talks about it when asked, as far as i'm concerned he's an adult and he can do what he want's, and weeds not even a big deal there are much worst habits he could have.

there's plenty of pictures on twitter or whatever. it's still horrible for your mind and body if you do it daily, probably the most underrated drug of all time, even more than alcohol

You can overdose alcohol, you can't overdose weed.

/discussion

and don't tell me there is no physical addiction to weed

but there isn't............

[Penicks]

you're all addicts and kny still sucks

[SwerveCityUSA]

you're all addicts and kny still sucks

the best addiction on earth is oxygen, good food, clean water, love of god, women, music and of course herb to top it all off, so yes I'll admit to that form of addiction.

"kny" Is still the best.

[theis]

KNY is the best album ever recorded.

Hehe...

[N0S3BLEED976]

There is no official "best album ever recorded", it's all just subjective...

And Penicks, why do you even bother coming to this forum anymore, when the last Deftones album you were interested in is the S/T? To "correct" anyone else who still likes what the band's doing right now?

[Jesus2Chino]

Ehhhh, while I don't want to comment on legalization and weed as an addictive substance etc., I think it's a little silly to say that smoking on a daily basis, and I mean smoking anything, has no ill effects on your lungs. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world, and I'm not saying there aren't more real and inherent dangers in life--but smoking is bad for your lungs. Anywho, that is all, lol.

Much respect,
-Matt

[Penicks]

There is no official "best album ever recorded", it's all just subjective...

And Penicks, why do you even bother coming to this forum anymore, when the last Deftones album you were interested in is the S/T? To "correct" anyone else who still likes what the band's doing right now?

i love snw as well, it is my second favourite in fact

that's what i'm trying to say, you're all so influenced by weed that you all think diamond eyes and kny are the second coming, but they are, in fact, quite shite

[DeftonesNZ]

Again you're mistaking your own opinion for fact, my favourite is not the best album it''s just my favourite, it's all just personal preference debating it's pointless there's no right or wrong answer as something as subjective as music can't be applied to a scale, also making a correlation between marijuana use and poor taste in music is just plain ridiculous.

[OnyxPanicProne]

My favorite album is Diamond Eyes and I haven't smoked weed ever (or any other drug), touched alcohol ever, or hell even touched a cigarette ever

[Penicks]

god damn onyx live a little

[OnyxPanicProne]

god damn onyx live a little

[SwerveCityUSA]

Ehhhh, while I don't want to comment on legalization and weed as an addictive substance etc., I think it's a little silly to say that smoking on a daily basis, and I mean smoking anything, has no ill effects on your lungs. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world, and I'm not saying there aren't more real and inherent dangers in life--but smoking is bad for your lungs. Anywho, that is all, lol.

Much respect,
-Matt

that sounds cute, but not really. It does have no ill effects on your lungs, I know that's not believable, but I've experimented with it my whole life. cigarettes cause cancer.

[sing blue silver]

Ehhhh, while I don't want to comment on legalization and weed as an addictive substance etc., I think it's a little silly to say that smoking on a daily basis, and I mean smoking anything, has no ill effects on your lungs. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world, and I'm not saying there aren't more real and inherent dangers in life--but smoking is bad for your lungs. Anywho, that is all, lol.

Much respect,
-Matt

that sounds cute, but not really. It does have no ill effects on your lungs, I know that's not believable, but I've experimented with it my whole life. cigarettes cause cancer.

[SwerveCityUSA]

Ehhhh, while I don't want to comment on legalization and weed as an addictive substance etc., I think it's a little silly to say that smoking on a daily basis, and I mean smoking anything, has no ill effects on your lungs. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world, and I'm not saying there aren't more real and inherent dangers in life--but smoking is bad for your lungs. Anywho, that is all, lol.

Much respect,
-Matt

that sounds cute, but not really. It does have no ill effects on your lungs, I know that's not believable, but I've experimented with it my whole life. cigarettes cause cancer.

lol I know right.

even the doctors and scientists use it and approve of it.

[Hank]

Marijuana is a mysterious yet predictable substance.

It goes how you go .It brings out whats inside just like alcohol except in a more clear less abrasive fashion.
Like most things in nature it is to be treated with respect.

Don't disrespect it and it won't disrespect you.

It's beautiful.

[Jesus2Chino]

lol I know right.

even the doctors and scientists use it and approve of it.

He was being sarcastic. You not developing cancer from smoking marijuana does not mean marijuana smoke is not carcinogenic. It just means you haven't gotten cancer from semi-regular use. Tobacco smokers can also smoke their entire lives and not develop cancer.

Of course I cannot say with complete certainty, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that if weed were to become legalized and institutionalized like tobacco, well-funded science would quickly follow correlating regular marijuana use to cancer. A probable reason that that science doesn't exist and isn't well funded is that marijuana doesn't carry the corporate stigma that tobacco does, and thus seems inherently less evil.

To say doctors recommend it so it can't be carcinogenic is also a bit silly. Most prescription medications are dangerous. Marijuana is a good alternative to some prescription medications, as it is much more difficult to abuse and because any ill effects are likely to not be immediate, and in this way it can easily be endorsed by doctors. It is also holistic and natural. Does that mean smoking it regularly can't cause cancer? Of course not. Our lungs were not designed to inhale smoke, no matter what kind of smoke, as smoke is basically aerosolized particulate matter. We're designed to inhale clean air, not particulates.

I don't know you personally SwerveCityUSA, so I really can't comment too much on you as an individual. But, I can say from the way you present yourself on this forum, it seems that you've come to the conclusion that being open-minded comes with a specific set of beliefs. Open-minded individuals all believe 'this,' and people who don't believe 'this' are close-minded. There's something fundamentally and systemically close-minded about that stream of logic, which I hope you can see. Now I'm not saying that's how you are, I'm simply saying that's how I'm percieving you based on your many posts on this forum. I could very well be wrong about it, and I'd be glad to be so. Anywho, just thought I'd expand on my earlier sentiments and throw my two cents in.

Much respect,
-Matt

[SwerveCityUSA]

lol I know right.

even the doctors and scientists use it and approve of it.

He was being sarcastic. You not developing cancer from smoking marijuana does not mean marijuana smoke is not carcinogenic. It just means you haven't gotten cancer from semi-regular use. Tobacco smokers can also smoke their entire lives and not develop cancer.

Of course I cannot say with complete certainty, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that if weed were to become legalized and institutionalized like tobacco, well-funded science would quickly follow correlating regular marijuana use to cancer. A probable reason that that science doesn't exist and isn't well funded is that marijuana doesn't carry the corporate stigma that tobacco does, and thus seems inherently less evil.

To say doctors recommend it so it can't be carcinogenic is also a bit silly. Most prescription medications are dangerous. Marijuana is a good alternative to some prescription medications, as it is much more difficult to abuse and because any ill effects are likely to not be immediate, and in this way it can easily be endorsed by doctors. It is also holistic and natural. Does that mean smoking it regularly can't cause cancer? Of course not. Our lungs were not designed to inhale smoke, no matter what kind of smoke, as smoke is basically aerosolized particulate matter. We're designed to inhale clean air, not particulates.

I don't know you personally SwerveCityUSA, so I really can't comment too much on you as an individual. But, I can say from the way you present yourself on this forum, it seems that you've come to the conclusion that being open-minded comes with a specific set of beliefs. Open-minded individuals all believe 'this,' and people who don't believe 'this' are close-minded. There's something fundamentally and systemically close-minded about that stream of logic, which I hope you can see. Now I'm not saying that's how you are, I'm simply saying that's how I'm percieving you based on your many posts on this forum. I could very well be wrong about it, and I'd be glad to be so. Anywho, just thought I'd expand on my earlier sentiments and throw my two cents in.

Much respect,
-Matt

Speaking of air, the air today has carcinogens in it too, so does the water, our food, everything, so don't go the carcinogenic route, we'll all get scared. and to say our lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke, is like saying fire is not an element. yes it is one of the elements that is upmost important to our existence and when it burns we breathe in all that great smoke, even if it's more forests, sadly. but going by all cultures of the earth from the east west north and south, all of them have used smoking and fire in their culture and rituals, so not only was fire proof we were meant to inhale smoke, so is the very design of our minds proven through culture, that thinks so.