Deftones Bullshit Thread

nineteen · Nov 27, 2012, 11:56 PM

Quote from: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 27, 2012, 12:12 AM
Also, I have a question that's been bugging me regarding Chino's vocals live. Does anyone know who does the delay on Chino's vocals live? Is it the sound guy, or is it Frank?

Just curious because in some songs such as "My Own Summer" & "Feiticeira" live, the delay will come on for just a certain "word" or "verse" and turn back off.. just wondering who might be controlling his delayed vocal effects.

Can't remember what period it was but there was a point when the 'delay guy' went ridiculous on his vocals. It was like every performance was echofest cavesound.

Sunbath · Nov 28, 2012, 12:28 AM

It's the sound guy. Was standing right behind him last time (2011) I saw them live.

thewanderer · Nov 28, 2012, 02:58 AM

Quote from: gwenudo666 on Nov 27, 2012, 04:16 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on Nov 27, 2012, 02:17 AM
I think Frank has control over Chino's voice. It's one of few things I want to ask them.

yes its frank .. frank also adds some chino screams when chino cant .. its completely noticable on lollipalooza 2011 when they play 7 words and chino is singing that katy perry verse

yeah i wasn't going to mention that part.... is it for sure the sound guy? i really hoped it was Frank.

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 03:08 AM

I doubt it's frank sometimes you see him just standing there doing nothing when it comes on plus he has his own shit to do I also don't think it is on a timer as sometimes Chino stops to get the crowd to help someone up and the timing would get fucked up

ignore the fashion · Nov 28, 2012, 06:28 AM

Could it be chino has his mic hooked up through an effects pedal or something along those lines? And he just does it himself.

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 06:31 AM

Thought about that you can get foot switches but he always moves round so he couldn't use it, I'm just going to say the sound guy does it's his job

kurtone · Nov 28, 2012, 06:58 AM

Back when they were touring to support the self titled album Chino would control some of them himself

http://youtu.be/MDm9Jp-yy9Q

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 07:04 AM

Quote from: nineteen on Nov 27, 2012, 11:56 PM
Quote from: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 27, 2012, 12:12 AM
Also, I have a question that's been bugging me regarding Chino's vocals live. Does anyone know who does the delay on Chino's vocals live? Is it the sound guy, or is it Frank?

Just curious because in some songs such as "My Own Summer" & "Feiticeira" live, the delay will come on for just a certain "word" or "verse" and turn back off.. just wondering who might be controlling his delayed vocal effects.

Can't remember what period it was but there was a point when the 'delay guy' went ridiculous on his vocals. It was like every performance was echofest cavesound.

Haha yeah i've seen some videos like that even when he was talking to the audience between songs he had lots of echo

thenoiboi · Nov 28, 2012, 10:19 AM

Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 12, 2012, 10:44 PM
Also, I finally gave Adrenaline a real chance. I have it, and I love some songs on it (One Weak, Fireal, Birthmark), but the rest of it I guess I just kinda thought "eh, boring" and skipped them for some weird reason. It was the only CD in my car, so yesterday I had it on and it was a 2-hour drive, so lots of time to listen to it and let it sink in properly. Well, it's awesome. Lifter is brilliant, it's currently on repeat instead of KNY. I'm late to the party haha but it's always taken me a while to get into their earlier music.

better late than never. always happy for someone to have found the deep goodness in adrenaline. so many people just talk about how "aggro" it is or whatever, but it has some pretty fantastic artistic qualities to it if you give it a good solid chance.

welcome to the prty.

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 10:25 AM

Yeah i think 7 Words and Engine #9 have a big part in it being labelled as Aggro but a lot of the songs have real dynamics like Birthmark and Fireal you can tell from just by hearing Adrenaline that they weren't just another nu-metal band

from_musings · Nov 28, 2012, 09:27 PM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 10:25 AM
you can tell from just by hearing Adrenaline that they weren't just another nu-metal band

what do you mean by "they weren't just another nu-metal band" ? it sounds by you that there were a lot of nu metal bands in 1995? deftones were pioneers, they started this shit (with korn)

Dath · Nov 28, 2012, 10:42 PM

It's amusing how Deftones and Korn diverged. That whole "kornstep" experiment was embarrassing.

TheShade1989 · Nov 28, 2012, 10:58 PM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 10:25 AM
Yeah i think 7 Words and Engine #9 have a big part in it being labelled as Aggro but a lot of the songs have real dynamics like Birthmark and Fireal you can tell from just by hearing Adrenaline that they weren't just another nu-metal band

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I never gave it a real chance. It took me a long time to get into Deftones' heavier, more aggressive songs, and hearing 7 Words and whatnot, I always assumed "ah, Adrenaline is their heavy, crappy nu-metal album except for a few songs", but fortunately I've changed my opinion.

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 11:15 PM

Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 10:25 AM
you can tell from just by hearing Adrenaline that they weren't just another nu-metal band

what do you mean by "they weren't just another nu-metal band" ? it sounds by you that there were a lot of nu metal bands in 1995? deftones were pioneers, they started this shit (with korn)

Yeah I meant looking back on that whole era even their most raw record still had a mix of softer and harder elements ,I don't think Deftones are even nu-metal in the sense it was used by media i just can't agree with a genre that groups together "Limp Bizkit " with guys like Deftones who are making real unique, dynamic music.

nineteen · Nov 28, 2012, 11:40 PM

Quote from: Dath on Nov 28, 2012, 10:42 PM
It's amusing how Deftones and Korn diverged. That whole "kornstep" experiment was embarrassing.

I kinda liked it. Gotta give 'em props for trying new stuff. When they came out they were unstoppable.

nineteen · Nov 28, 2012, 11:42 PM

Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 10:25 AM
you can tell from just by hearing Adrenaline that they weren't just another nu-metal band

what do you mean by "they weren't just another nu-metal band" ? it sounds by you that there were a lot of nu metal bands in 1995? deftones were pioneers, they started this shit (with korn)

Also, Nu-Metal wasn't even coined when Adrenaline came out. I think it was around 97 that shit got termed. Before that it was bands like Orange 9mm, Helmet, Korn, Deftones etc.

DeftonesNZ · Nov 28, 2012, 11:50 PM

I know the term wasn't around but when people started using the term, "Adrenaline" got labelled a nu-metal album and was put in the same category as rap metal shit which is just wrong even their earliest record had soft-hard dynamics

Martin · Dec 02, 2012, 12:17 AM

Just to verify; there are only digital versions of the 'Sextape' and 'You've Seen The Butcher' singles right?

sooniletugo · Dec 02, 2012, 12:20 AM

Pretty sure man.

Can't find this t-shirt in my size (M) anywhere now, sucks cause I've known about it for a while but only liked it as of a few months ago when I saw it in a shop and realised what was actually going on in it.

Martin · Dec 02, 2012, 12:30 AM

Remember Maverick not making actual singles (on disc) anymore and I can't find it, but just checking.

Funny you should mention that t-shirt, I just found it on Play.com; http://www.play.com/Clothing/T-Shirts/4-/5541317/Deftones-Men-Skull-Roses-T-Shirt/Product.html?searchstring=deftones&searchtype=&searchsource=2&searchfilters=s%7bdeftones%7d%2bc%7b470%7d%2b&urlrefer=search.