No SNW

[fuzzylogics]

Anyone have any insight on why they've abandoned all SNW songs in their recent shows?

[snw9]

its because during the making of SNW, the band almost broke up and went through a rough time and according to Chino moreno, after the songs were recorded and completely mixed he didnt listen to them and didnt even want to because it would depress him. If u pay attention to the lyrics closely ull understand, songs like Rapture, Hole in the Earth, Combat, Xerces, Kim dracula, Cherry waves and so on...i still think, despite how dark it is, that this album shows how much work and emotion deftones put into this record, in terms of song structures and sounds. It sounds a lot more complete and atmospheric thanks to Frank's effects and of course, Chino's mellow side.
The ideal songs of SNW that should be played: Kim dracula, Rapture, Mein

In a nutshell, the songs are too depressing to play and listen to and Chino doesn't want anything to do with that album. He was on drugs, goin thru a divorce and Bob Ezrin was making his life a living hell. The Malibu place was depressing him, where they relocated after "The Spot" which is their studio in Sacremento.

[snw9]

oh just to point out, SNW was the most difficult time the band went thru as a whole but its one of my favorite albums

[deftoolsys07]

^ ^ while that shit is true has anyone here asked any of them why? could be a different reason.

but,

if you look at this tour now, obviously there's more marketing going on here.. they're attracting new fans because DE was very succesful for them and so now at these shows they have to play a lot of singles and shit the general public should enjoy if they haven't seen them before... so sure SNW flopped so they're not going to spend 5 minutes of an SNW song that they should one off the new album so these new fans can walk away and say "yeah they're awesome, i'm gonna go buy whatever album that one song's off" and not "yeah they're awesome except for that one song, so eh i don't dig em"

so yeah that and the fact that it was a depressing album for them.

but needs to be confirmed by someone, i was just thinking that myself the other night...

[SX King]

oh just to point out, SNW was the most difficult time the band went thru as a whole but its one of my favorite albums

Glad someone else likes this album as much as i do.

[snw9]

^ ^ while that shit is true has anyone here asked any of them why? could be a different reason.

but,

if you look at this tour now, obviously there's more marketing going on here.. they're attracting new fans because DE was very succesful for them and so now at these shows they have to play a lot of singles and shit the general public should enjoy if they haven't seen them before... so sure SNW flopped so they're not going to spend 5 minutes of an SNW song that they should one off the new album so these new fans can walk away and say "yeah they're awesome, i'm gonna go buy whatever album that one song's off" and not "yeah they're awesome except for that one song, so eh i don't dig em"

so yeah that and the fact that it was a depressing album for them.

but needs to be confirmed by someone, i was just thinking that myself the other night...

u r correct about the marketing, i didnt remember that they were promoting Diamond Eyes and well they'd play their hits as well as "Core" deftones songs and unfortunately SNW had no hits and well the depressing aspect explains y they dont play the core tracks.

[anguria]

Cherry Waves and Xerces are very loved by fans . They're quite catchy too, so the only reason why they don't play must be the memories they bring back...

[Vesanic]

Just as a reminder:


They played one song from SNW during this tour, at only one gig. It was Hole in The Earth. I don't even think it was on the setlist, because before Chino starts playing the intro, you can hear the intro of Passenger... Sounds like they sometimes change their mind at the last minute.

[snw9]

Just as a reminder:


They played one song from SNW during this tour, at only one gig. It was Hole in The Earth. I don't even think it was on the setlist, because before Chino starts playing the intro, you can hear the intro of Passenger... Sounds like they sometimes change their mind at the last minute.

how strange that they picked hole in the earth(because of the lyrics), even though it was a single.

[yeah]

oh just to point out, SNW was the most difficult time the band went thru as a whole but its one of my favorite albums

Glad someone else likes this album as much as i do.

add me to the list

[Vesanic]

Here is the performance I just talked about:

Hole In The Earth By Deftones Live 2010 @ Sunshine Theater Albq NM in HD

[deftoolsys07]

wow chino sounds a lot better on that now...

[fuzzylogics]

Exactly. Now that they seem to be all on point musically I'd love to hear some of the SNW stuff.

[deftoolsys07]

Exactly. Now that they seem to be all on point musically I'd love to hear some of the SNW stuff.

if they open with rats! before chino's throat gets too worn out during the show then i'd like to hear that played now.. would sound better than the studio version i think honestly, now that chino seems to be able to scream again..

[snw9]

Exactly. Now that they seem to be all on point musically I'd love to hear some of the SNW stuff.

if they open with rats! before chino's throat gets too worn out during the show then i'd like to hear that played now.. would sound better than the studio version i think honestly, now that chino seems to be able to scream again..

Rats! would be awesome but id rather see rapture live, franks effects near the end just give me the goosebumps

[Shadow46/2]

Wonder if he could hit that high on KimDracula these days...

[yourwaves]

i dont know if chino was doing drugs during snw. I dont know if he ever did drugs like extacy or heroin im pretty sure he smokes chron tho...but i digress. I think they stay away from snw cuz not alot of ppl are into this dark and shady album{i fukin love it}... also my brother said they would never play combat live or couldnt because the intro is done by computers u know the wierd alien sounding voices. I said man combat would be interesting to hear live tho.

[snw9]

i dont know if chino was doing drugs during snw. I dont know if he ever did drugs like extacy or heroin im pretty sure he smokes chron tho...but i digress. I think they stay away from snw cuz not alot of ppl are into this dark and shady album{i fukin love it}... also my brother said they would never play combat live or couldnt because the intro is done by computers u know the wierd alien sounding voices. I said man combat would be interesting to hear live tho.

steph mentioned in an interview they cant play combat live, its one of those songs u cant pull off live and to correct u, chino was on drugs during SNW, im not sure which one but I know he was under the influence and he was goin thru other things too in life

[Vesanic]

I heard that it was because Chino couldn't do his vocals and play his guitar part at the same time without fucking it up.

[2HitsThe6]

I asked Stef why they didnt play combat when I met him in 2007 and he said it was because Chino hadnt learnt his guitar parts yet which shows that despite writing the parts he wasnt overly interested at that time, Stef was actually quite scathing about Chino that whole conversation which showed how things were in the band during that period.