Deftones Albums - Guitar Tuning Question

[whitefur]

so what are everyone's toughest songs to play??

mine is Engine No. 9, and then the intro to Feiticeira.

Does anyone know if Dai the Flu and Needles and Pins are the only two songs that use a tuning that is different from what the rest of their respective albums use?? Do Diamond Eyes and SNW use the same tuning throughout the entire album?

intro to feiteceira is wayyyyy easier than i think people think it is... it's just harmonics over the 9th fret, just a little variation on which strings on that fret. listen to the album to get it down... i seriously injured my hand but i'll see if i can't put a vid up..

i think i got it now, but i would like to see you play it though. lots of the tabs i was finding were adding harmonics on the 10th fret too but i don't think that is right. it's all on the 9th fret and the higher harmonic is still on the 9th fret. what was goofing me up was the open strings and then followed by the bar chord on the 8th fret before the harmonics.

[deftoolsys07]

uploadin it

[deftoolsys07]

so what are everyone's toughest songs to play??

mine is Engine No. 9, and then the intro to Feiticeira.

Does anyone know if Dai the Flu and Needles and Pins are the only two songs that use a tuning that is different from what the rest of their respective albums use?? Do Diamond Eyes and SNW use the same tuning throughout the entire album?

intro to feiteceira is wayyyyy easier than i think people think it is... it's just harmonics over the 9th fret, just a little variation on which strings on that fret. listen to the album to get it down... i seriously injured my hand but i'll see if i can't put a vid up..

i think i got it now, but i would like to see you play it though. lots of the tabs i was finding were adding harmonics on the 10th fret too but i don't think that is right. it's all on the 9th fret and the higher harmonic is still on the 9th fret. what was goofing me up was the open strings and then followed by the bar chord on the 8th fret before the harmonics.

i dont think you play anything on the 8th fret in the intro...

[whitefur]

Feiticeira - Deftones cover

i play it how this guy plays it. just before he hits the harmonics and after he does the 4th fret stuff, he hits the open chord followed by the 8th fret bar chord.

[deftoolsys07]

wow.. hmm.. that actually seems a bit right... i was just doing the harmonics for that part without the 8th fret, but listening to that sounds right.. i gotta start doing that... ha i won't even bother uploadin the video now haha

edit: he's not strumming the rest of the song right, though.. its down and up strum, not all down... and actually when he's doing the shit on the 4th fret in the intro after the harmonic part, i slide over to the 5th and back to the forth instead of how he's doing 4th fret and open...

[whitefur]

ha i won't even bother uploadin the video now haha

oh come on!!

edit: he's not strumming the rest of the song right, though.. its down and up strum, not all down... and actually when he's doing the shit on the 4th fret in the intro after the harmonic part, i slide over to the 5th and back to the forth instead of how he's doing 4th fret and open...

yeah i do the up down strumming. i use to do the 4th to the 5th fret thing, but i saw a video of stef and it looked he did the 4th to open like this guy does but that was awhile ago so not sure. this guy has a lot of good Deftones covers. he had the whole diamond eyes covered before the official album release.

[deftoolsys07]

haha damn dude i already cancelled the upload it was takin fuckin FOREVER haha sorry bro (it was only like 3 minutes but it was 350MB)... it was just like his on the intro except for what i said.. hmm. ill check out his DE covers.. he usin a 6 7 or 8 string?

[whitefur]

he usin a 6 7 or 8 string?

he uses a 7 string tuned to standard F# (F# B E A D G B)

[defTHE1s]

I forgot, Chino plays in Drop D for Hole In The Earth.

yeah, i was about to say that

[Felipe]

Anyone has guitar tabs of diamond eyes's songs play by Chino in Drop C ( Sex tape, Royal, Beauty School)??
and anyone know if i can still play the other diamond eyes's songs in a regular 6 strings guitar, if i can in which tunning??

[deftones86]

Anyone has guitar tabs of diamond eyes's songs play by Chino in Drop C ( Sex tape, Royal, Beauty School)??
and anyone know if i can still play the other diamond eyes's songs in a regular 6 strings guitar, if i can in which tunning??

Im going to tab out sextape and royal when i find the time (probably this weekend). Also i dont think you will be able to pull off steph's parts with a 6. unless  you want it to sound like shit. probably need at least a 7. And every guitar player should own a 7-string. Its like switching hands when you masterbate, a little awkward at first but the change feels nice

[yeah]

every guitar player should own a 7-string. Its like switching hands when you masterbate, a little awkward at first but the change feels nice

these are the words!

[Subliminal]

ha i won't even bother uploadin the video now haha

oh come on!!

edit: he's not strumming the rest of the song right, though.. its down and up strum, not all down... and actually when he's doing the shit on the 4th fret in the intro after the harmonic part, i slide over to the 5th and back to the forth instead of how he's doing 4th fret and open...

yeah i do the up down strumming. i use to do the 4th to the 5th fret thing, but i saw a video of stef and it looked he did the 4th to open like this guy does but that was awhile ago so not sure. this guy has a lot of good Deftones covers. he had the whole diamond eyes covered before the official album release.

Here's how I play it, if it helps..and it's on the 9th fret, I have no fret markers on my KKV so..

Feiticeira Intro Riff

Anyone has guitar tabs of diamond eyes's songs play by Chino in Drop C ( Sex tape, Royal, Beauty School)??
and anyone know if i can still play the other diamond eyes's songs in a regular 6 strings guitar, if i can in which tunning??

Im going to tab out sextape and royal when i find the time (probably this weekend). Also i dont think you will be able to pull off steph's parts with a 6. unless  you want it to sound like shit. probably need at least a 7. And every guitar player should own a 7-string. Its like switching hands when you masterbate, a little awkward at first but the change feels nice

And if you have big hands, they're perfect!

Anyone has guitar tabs of diamond eyes's songs play by Chino in Drop C ( Sex tape, Royal, Beauty School)??
and anyone know if i can still play the other diamond eyes's songs in a regular 6 strings guitar, if i can in which tunning??

The only songs you'll have trouble playing are Diamond Eyes, CMND/CTRL and You've Seen The Butcher because of the low F# riffs, but that's about it. You could always just play along with them higher up the neck, on high notes/octaves. Or alternatively get an 8 string.. which is what I need to do!! haha

But other than that, you can play all the others without sounding like crap

[deftoolsys07]

i'll never get an 8 string.. i mean i may some day but my hands are small enough that i can barely play a 7. i still don't have a 7 string but i'd like to get one soon

[whitefur]

that's awesome subliminal!!

[whitefur]

i'll never get an 8 string.. i mean i may some day but my hands are small enough that i can barely play a 7. i still don't have a 7 string but i'd like to get one soon

someday i want an 8 string....but that's only because of Meshuggah. Stef doesn't utitlize the 8 string enough on DE. Like subliminal said, the 8 string is only needed for like 3 songs...but it would be nice to have one to play that album on though! And we'll see what Eros or their next album has to offer as far as 8 strings goes. Last night I strung my 7 string with the largest 6 strings from a 7 string set plus an extra .070 Ernie Ball for the F# 8th string.....that thing is meaty!!!! Now the string slack is much better for SNW and DE......and ST for that matter.

[Subliminal]

i'll never get an 8 string.. i mean i may some day but my hands are small enough that i can barely play a 7. i still don't have a 7 string but i'd like to get one soon

someday i want an 8 string....but that's only because of Meshuggah. Stef doesn't utitlize the 8 string enough on DE. Like subliminal said, the 8 string is only needed for like 3 songs...but it would be nice to have one to play that album on though! And we'll see what Eros or their next album has to offer as far as 8 strings goes. Last night I strung my 7 string with the largest 6 strings from a 7 string set plus an extra .070 Ernie Ball for the F# 8th string.....that thing is meaty!!!! Now the string slack is much better for SNW and DE......and ST for that matter.

Haha, I did the same, I bought a 7 string set of strings by ernie ball, got rid the two high strings, stringed up the 6 strings and then bought a 58' for the 7th string, (copied the gauges of Stefs standard 8 string set up) It sounds sick, but it's lacking the dyanmic and beefy baritone noise of an 8 string. And obviously the 8 string holds the tuning perfectly.

Eros I reckon is heavily influenced by the 8 string and going by Stefs comment about being influenced by Timbaland, I think a lot of CMND/CTRLs are gonna be on it! (which is allll goood!) but that's just speculation on my part

So now I can play Diamond Eyes, CMND/CTRL etc. I've got a jam/cover me and my mate did of CMND actually, should really get it uploaded!

that's awesome subliminal!!

Thanks man, hope it helped? you just bar the 3 strings and ring the harmonic on those out the first time, then the rest you add the 4th strings' harmonic along with it and hey presto!

[defTHE1s]

hey subliminal you did it very good, the only thing i'm not sure is the part 0:05 - 0:07... 0:19, i mean the parts played on that time.. i play it quite different but don't know...

btw... i want to get a 7 string guitar... not really sure if i want an 8 strings, but a 7 string of course! hope i'll be getting this this year 

[Felipe]

Anyone has guitar tabs of diamond eyes's songs play by Chino in Drop C ( Sex tape, Royal, Beauty School)??
and anyone know if i can still play the other diamond eyes's songs in a regular 6 strings guitar, if i can in which tunning??

Im going to tab out sextape and royal when i find the time (probably this weekend). Also i dont think you will be able to pull off steph's parts with a 6. unless  you want it to sound like shit. probably need at least a 7. And every guitar player should own a 7-string. Its like switching hands when you masterbate, a little awkward at first but the change feels nice

hahahaha, ok thanks

[Subliminal]

hey subliminal you did it very good, the only thing i'm not sure is the part 0:05 - 0:07... 0:19, i mean the parts played on that time.. i play it quite different but don't know...

btw... i want to get a 7 string guitar... not really sure if i want an 8 strings, but a 7 string of course! hope i'll be getting this this year 

Whatever way is best for you man!