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Kerrang! Interview - 28/4/2010

Started by Subliminal, Apr 28, 2010, 10:04 AM

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Subliminal

I agree Moz, I like to be minimalistic, but then I love to support the bands I love i.e Deftones, so I'll buy their CD without a doubt. But I download now because it's the way to go, you can get high enough quality and usually if you love the music, you're going to see the band play the shit live. So they'll be getting a good portion of your money anyway.

Quote from: Moz on Apr 28, 2010, 08:12 PM
This is one of the best 'Tones interviews ever.

Stuff about Eros, stuff about recording Diamond Eyes, the stuff about Chi... it's enough to get emotional. And very uplifting too: Chino pinpoints exactly what was missing on the previous two records in my opinion. The fact that he flat out states things like 'we weren't trying hard enough' and 'we had to save the band, our career'... it puts them waaaay up in my respect book. wow.

edit: thanks Subliminal, hard work but it's worth it. I don't think Kerrang dramatised it much though, most of the drama is from the mouth of Chino himself.

No worries.

I'm glad he was talking about how him and Stef were clashing and they just weren't into it anymore (lacklustre) and the fact that he would get himself half assed drunk and do awful shows.

Of all the interviews I've seen or heard, this is by far the best. But then.. Chino's last Kerrang! interview was brilliant, because he was honest about his drug addictions and he doesn't have to say shit if he doesn't want to!

Moz

he talked about his addiction? what did he say?

iceache

I agree with Chino when he talked about ST and SNW.. ''I don't know what I was thinking''.

I'm also glad that he brought up the weight issue.

fetisher

Quote from: Moz on Apr 28, 2010, 08:47 PM
he talked about his addiction? what did he say?

He talked quite openly about doing speed during the SNW (or was it self-titled?) sessions. 

It was a good interview.  You can probly find it online.

Subliminal

^ White Pony/Deftones era :)

Quote from: Moz on Apr 28, 2010, 08:47 PM
he talked about his addiction? what did he say?

Sorry I didn't mean 'addictions' like he was on everything. But I can't remember much now, just it was about him doing a lot of cocaine and shit after White Pony took off and that became his down fall. So he said he was starting to get clean and come off all that shit. This was SNW time also..and it had a picture of him on his own at some random church building next to the article. I'll dig it out if I can.

aj

Quote from: fetisher on Apr 28, 2010, 08:16 PM
Quote from: raynor on Apr 28, 2010, 06:01 PM
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Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
Impatience of the masses has killed art.
Truth.
Couldn't agree less really. Good music will always be good music and downloading albums has helped me get into pretty much all the bands I listen to today. I don't think Diamond Eyes, or any other album, is more enjoyable when listening though a pair of headphones on your mp3-player or listening to it on a CD.

Like you, I have been introduced to many a song/album online in <insert forum here>.  Though I don't think that's entirely the point aj was making when he/she said that impatience has killed art.  I could be wrong, however. 

My take on the statement is that our instant-gratification, now-now-now, internet society has (at the very least) without argument destroyed the classic album experience.  Which is kind of sad for those of us old enough to remember sitting at our radio with a cassette tape, finger on record, ready to tape the song you just requested on the radio because the album doesn't come out for another two weeks.  And maybe that was a form of impatience too, but at least it was impatience that you had to fucking work for, as opposed to downloading the full CD quality album a month early in three minutes. 

Sometimes that asshole DJ would never even play your request.   ;D

You know, there is something to be said for waiting for something.  Impatience is not a good quality.  And what's happening in our society, especially with regard to audio releases (and film as well) is that there's this standard being set, for being impatient.  It's become the absolute norm, to expect something to be leaked early.  And I feel like that's just setting a really bad precedent.

There's all this fucking demand for the newest thing.  People's attention spans would put a goldfish to shame, anymore.  And what happens with a situation like that is, someone will see the opportunity to take advantage of the situation.  It's usually some corporation ready to bleed it for all it's worth.  The powers that be (be it production companies, record companies, etc...) are more than obliged to take the reigns.  Create focus groups and establish target audiences.  'Discover' new 'talent' and market and sell them.  They'll identify what will make money and what will not, and they will absolutely flood the market with it.

And I'm not knocking the process.  It's a business, and it serves a purpose.  The real problem is that the demand is there.  That's the unfortunate thing, and the reason why these companies succeed as well as they do.  And it's precisely because of our impatience and insatiable need for something new, that this is able to happen.  When people submit to this behavior as the norm, they sacrifice quality for mediocrity.  They get entertainment, instead of art. 

That is what is destroying art.

And I'm not even knocking mindless entertainment.  Mindless entertainment is great.  But only when it's not at the expense of art.  When it doesn't set a precedent of mediocrity.  You know, when Brittany Spears is known the world over, but only three people I know have ever heard of The Cocteau Twins, that's a bad thing.  It's truly sad, in my humble opinon.

That said, I downloaded DE.  Ha!

I was part of the problem on this one (I typically purchase my music).  But I'm trying to change.   ;D

A-fucking-men

I will post a more considered point when I get home :D


Hidalgo

great interview. one of the best deftones interviews ever. can't believe even the elephant in the room weight issue was discussed


Deftones-argentina

Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 28, 2010, 09:38 PM
great interview. one of the best deftones interviews ever. can't believe even the elephant in the room weight issue was discussed

That's right, the interviewer (or maybe the band itself) discussed some points I never thought anyone would dare to point out.

ToneDef

Quote from: aj on Apr 28, 2010, 11:37 AM
I agree with him. Impatience of the masses has killed art.

I for one shall be glad on Friday when I pick up the CD, smell the artwork, analyse the booklet and listen to the album for the first time.

Enjoy it mate. I downloaded it, but a fresh CD and that first listen with the booklet in your hands.. Priceless. You did the best thing to wait for release IMO. I've waited for every 'tones release before this one. I just couldn't resist this time.

It absolutely blew me away. You're in for a fucking treat. It's really as good as everyone says it is.



I read this article in the mag earlier on. It's great.

Shadow46/2


Speak of the devil, and he shall appear.

anguria

Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Apr 28, 2010, 10:59 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Apr 28, 2010, 09:38 PM
great interview. one of the best deftones interviews ever. can't believe even the elephant in the room weight issue was discussed

That's right, the interviewer (or maybe the band itself) discussed some points I never thought anyone would dare to point out.
True. I appreciated that part about Chi's family. I was wondering how they feel about Chi's "replacement", I'm glad to know that they're ok with it. Chino has been brave to talk about his weight too. What a classy man! 8)


EDIT: thank you very much, Subliminal!

Subliminal

No problem amigos :D I think it's an interview every die-hard fan would want to read!

jesusinabowlofdirt

Quote from: anguria on Apr 29, 2010, 08:55 AM
Chino has been brave to talk about his weight too. What a classy man! 8)

its not so "brave" to be talking about it when your skinny and goodlooking like he is now. its the same with drugs.. telling people about it when you have quit isnt so admirable once youre off it. if chino would have been talking about his fat ass when he was fat or talking about his meth problems while doing it, now that would have been brave

Shadow46/2

Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 29, 2010, 01:40 PM
Quote from: anguria on Apr 29, 2010, 08:55 AM
Chino has been brave to talk about his weight too. What a classy man! 8)

its not so "brave" to be talking about it when your skinny and goodlooking like he is now. its the same with drugs.. telling people about it when you have quit isnt so admirable once youre off it. if chino would have been talking about his fat ass when he was fat or talking about his meth problems while doing it, now that would have been brave

lol chill

Speak of the devil, and he shall appear.

jesusinabowlofdirt

Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Apr 29, 2010, 02:40 PM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 29, 2010, 01:40 PM
Quote from: anguria on Apr 29, 2010, 08:55 AM
Chino has been brave to talk about his weight too. What a classy man! 8)

its not so "brave" to be talking about it when your skinny and goodlooking like he is now. its the same with drugs.. telling people about it when you have quit isnt so admirable once youre off it. if chino would have been talking about his fat ass when he was fat or talking about his meth problems while doing it, now that would have been brave

lol chill

NEVER!

Starz

I bought the mag and it's a good read. I stand by my point that Kerrang! have some of the best journalists in world in the rock/metal genre regardless of the shit that they print in the mag.

And Fetisher's post was one of the most important outsider posts on the internet. Good read.

anguria

Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 29, 2010, 01:40 PM
Quote from: anguria on Apr 29, 2010, 08:55 AM
Chino has been brave to talk about his weight too. What a classy man! 8)

its not so "brave" to be talking about it when your skinny and goodlooking like he is now. its the same with drugs.. telling people about it when you have quit isnt so admirable once youre off it. if chino would have been talking about his fat ass when he was fat or talking about his meth problems while doing it, now that would have been brave
He didn't have to speak about it, but he did. I guess he was pissed off about people telling him he was chunky, so he did it first.

jesusinabowlofdirt

he was fat for like the past 10 years til just recently, and he has been harassed for it since day one, its just now when he is skinny
he can talk about it. thats not brave