KFC WTF?!

[wheresmysnare]

omgosh... who would play me?!

[White Pwny]

that ALMOST looks like me..   only I am not black...I'm blonde.... I have boobs... I am a chick... and I'm pretty sure I have less facial hair.   However.. the outfit is spot on.

[wheresmysnare]

I'm glad you appreciate my casting, it was an odd choice but he was so keen on the role, i think he'll give it 100 %

[White Pwny]

Very nice....

[devilinside]

Jerry Springer....minus the incest,add pot heads,drunks,foreigners and too much cock....

[derekautomatica]

I get that some people don't eat meat..... I get it.   But I really HATE when they have to start peddling their propaganda about how it's animal cruelty.     Jesus himself ate fish...   that cruel bastid...

animal cruelty to me is when you beat the shit out of a cat and use it's fur to make a coat. THAT'S ANIMAL CRUELTY. But when people hunt and eat animals as a means to survive...i don't see the problem. Now the way they use animals for our eating pleasure is fucked up...but according to Darwin it's simply natural selection...there's no way around it.

[sing blue silver]

I get that some people don't eat meat..... I get it.   But I really HATE when they have to start peddling their propaganda about how it's animal cruelty.     Jesus himself ate fish...   that cruel bastid...

animal cruelty to me is when you beat the shit out of a cat and use it's fur to make a coat. THAT'S ANIMAL CRUELTY. But when people hunt and eat animals as a means to survive...i don't see the problem. Now the way they use animals for our eating pleasure is fucked up...but according to Darwin it's simply natural selection...there's no way around it.

i think we're all over this now.

Jerry Springer....minus the incest,add pot heads,drunks,foreigners and too much cock....

i prefer to think of it as maury.

[Nailec]

I get that some people don't eat meat..... I get it.   But I really HATE when they have to start peddling their propaganda about how it's animal cruelty.     Jesus himself ate fish...   that cruel bastid...

animal cruelty to me is when you beat the shit out of a cat and use it's fur to make a coat. THAT'S ANIMAL CRUELTY. But when people hunt and eat animals as a means to survive...i don't see the problem. Now the way they use animals for our eating pleasure is fucked up...but according to Darwin it's simply natural selection...there's no way around it.

darwin didnt intend to write a normative anthrpology.
we are human and to most people we arent working just as a natural entity. we developed culture and have become able to reflect our being.

as a matter of fact we dont actually require meat to stay alive. this is nothing else but socialization that makes want to eat meat. we can work perfectly on vegan food alone.

there is actually a lot of animal cruelty happening in the food-industry, you must know that. and its probablly worse than beating a cat for no reason. corporations want to maximize their capital and in the process a lot of them are giving a shit on such things as animal rights. (for example you can just slit some animals throat to kill it or you can kill it with a more effective but more expensive injection).

the least you can do to regard at least the most fundamental animal rights is to make clear, that corporations work transparent for the public sphere and work together with (independent!!!) governmental representatives who make sure that everything is fine.

[Nailec]

btw: im neither vegetarian nor vegan because a) i cant afford to and b) i have grown up on a farm and just like meat

but goddamnit blixa made some points that must at least affect your moral a little bit:

a) cows are a huge factor to climate change (you can now post all your lobbyists "scientific" articles against it, but  i tend to rely on european science, not on the american where everyone is bought by some bigger corporation
b) violation of fundamental animal rights

-if youre eating fish youre hopefully aware that the cheaper you buy, the higher the chances are, your buying some fish that is extincted in a couple of years.
-most fats coming from animals are bad fats that may cause your hear to implode or explode or whatever


my personal conclusion it is reasonable for everyone to lower their meat consumption voluntarly because you dont lose anything. im down for 2-3 times meat per weak (plus some salami for bread etc.)

im also not too sure if were all that free when were eating meat because were used to eat it since our childhood and dont even reflect it anymore. expecially fat may make you addicted just like alcohol and thc and your wouldnt call an alcoholic a free person, would you?

[theis]

Wow, this thread took a 180.

[blixa]

thank you, nailec. finally a person who responded maturely and intelligently.

It's the unfortunate consequence of one's inability to intellectually win an argument...  Although she does tend to make some rather inflammatory statements from the standpoint of people who have a love, as opposed to a disdain for humanity.

what is so inflammatory about stating the FACT that animal agriculture is one of the leading causes of climate change. i'm paraphrasing natalie portman here when i say that the human cost of factory farming - both the compromised welfare of slaughterhouse workers and, even more, the environmental effects of the mass production of animals - is staggering. factory-farmed food is making hundreds of millions of dollars for CEOs of corporations at the expense of normal people.

the thing i can't respect is the willful forgetting, the kind of people who say "i simply don't want to think about it." it's like not saying something when someone says rape is alright. i think there are a lot of responsible conclusions one could reach about whether to eat animals. there's selective meat-eating from responsible growers and there's being a vegetarian.

it's an unpopular stance to say what i said but hell, i've never really been very popular here anyway and i don't care. i believe eating meat is wrong. that is my personal belief. i'm not saying that i would love to enforce this ideal on anyone. what i would love is for people to reconsider the impact of the way we not only kill our animals, but the way we treat them also. i think there should be harsher legislation passed to find more humane ways in which they are treated and killed.

and no one has given me a reasonable response as to how you can truly love animals yet be perfectly okay with eating them considering the way they are farmed and killed?

[derekautomatica]

i heard cows far methane gas. Isn't that bad for the ozone? Therefore they shall all perish!

[Jacob]

i heard cows far methane gas. Isn't that bad for the ozone? Therefore they shall all perish!

well, so do you, so why not take one for the team?

[wheresmysnare]

Over population is the problem i.e. what is the carbon footprint of a human through out their life in comparison to a cow or a 4x4. We should do what China did and put a cap on people in general, one child each if you're lucky.

[wheresmysnare]

when i say cap i do not mean a hat.

[Jacob]

yeah, I've said that for years: start regulating who can get kids and how many. we should mainly go by how hot the mother is.

[deftones86]

Cause its finger fuckin lickin good
SHRINK - Kentucky Fried Chicken (Clip of the Day - PART 20)

Oh and whats with all this blah blah cows fart and kill us blah blah.

[wheresmysnare]

Cause its finger fuckin lickin good
SHRINK - Kentucky Fried Chicken (Clip of the Day - PART 20)

that is fucking brilliant!

[your sister gets me hard]

We should do what China did and put a cap on people in general, one child each if you're lucky.

Yeah, that worked out perfectly.

[alvarezbassist17]

lol@
-the comparision between blixa and the nazis (i know such argumentation is more common outside germany. but still, i would punch you in the face for that and force you to give an excuse in front of a jewish person)

I was not comparing blixa to the Nazis, I was comparing the hardcore environmental movement to the Nazi movement.  Obviously there are stark, clear contrasts between the two, but there are very few movements that have used a "religious" belief in their cause (i say religious because the environmental/global warming/climate change movement operates like a faith-based movement in that no attempts at bringing any sort of reason to their attention have any effect) to cause so much death across the globe.  You have to realize that it's not the big, evil corporations that take a hit because of environmental regulations.  It is every single person that uses energy or has the potential to in the entire world.  Because of the animal rights movement and the enormous costs it's imposed on food purveyors, people in third world countries starve.  That is economic fact, and it's something COMPLETELY ignored by all of these Al Gore types and people like yourself.  So talk about how compassionate these people are, you just can't be ignorant to the fact that these movements slow the progress of all mankind, impoverishing the globe so #1 we'll inevitably be too poor to be able to have the discretionary resources to invest towards ground breaking, "green" energy and #2 people in third world countries will not be able to afford to industrialize and support themselves and in the process, PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE DYING.

And by the way, you're insanely ignorant for saying that global warming dissent is only given by corporate-supported, American hack-scientists.  Check out this list, I'm sure among the 700 papers, there's a few non-Americans.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

thank you, nailec. finally a person who responded maturely and intelligently.

It's the unfortunate consequence of one's inability to intellectually win an argument...  Although she does tend to make some rather inflammatory statements from the standpoint of people who have a love, as opposed to a disdain for humanity.

what is so inflammatory about stating the FACT that animal agriculture is one of the leading causes of climate change. i'm paraphrasing natalie portman here when i say that the human cost of factory farming - both the compromised welfare of slaughterhouse workers and, even more, the environmental effects of the mass production of animals - is staggering. factory-farmed food is making hundreds of millions of dollars for CEOs of corporations at the expense of normal people.

the thing i can't respect is the willful forgetting, the kind of people who say "i simply don't want to think about it." it's like not saying something when someone says rape is alright. i think there are a lot of responsible conclusions one could reach about whether to eat animals. there's selective meat-eating from responsible growers and there's being a vegetarian.

it's an unpopular stance to say what i said but hell, i've never really been very popular here anyway and i don't care. i believe eating meat is wrong. that is my personal belief. i'm not saying that i would love to enforce this ideal on anyone. what i would love is for people to reconsider the impact of the way we not only kill our animals, but the way we treat them also. i think there should be harsher legislation passed to find more humane ways in which they are treated and killed.

I'm not saying pollution caused by agriculture is a good thing, it is most definitely something that needs to be constantly improved over time.  But you have to realize, there is not enough global wealth in our day and age to be able to devote the resources it would take to achieve your utopia-sort of really nice agriculture industry.  Does that mean that I don't think that companies that pollute should be brought to court by those who are affected by the pollution (which is a main reason I am such a fan of property rights)?  Hell no, I think that they should most certainly be sued.  But look, you're not just forcing their CEOs to take a hit on their salary when you make the companies incur these expenses, it increases prices for EVERYONE.  Watch this video, i beg of you.

http://media.mises.org/video/HS_2009/05_HS2009_Woods.wmv

and no one has given me a reasonable response as to how you can truly love animals yet be perfectly okay with eating them considering the way they are farmed and killed?

It's the ability to recognize the fact that you need to be able to differentiate between human and animal rights, animals would not afford us the same rights we give to them if it came down to them needing to eat.  That's it.