Eros

[New Murderer]

Sorry for stirring up this seemingly hopeless for the moment topic, but i haven't checked the boards lately with lack of new album info so just catching up and saw that article. Is it me or does that make it sound much more finished or close to finish than the band leads us to believe these days?

[snw9]

For the sake of conversation, here's a comment I just received on DeftonesLive, on our edit of Smile. I usually don't pay attention to that stuff. Dude sounds like he's in the know though...

Illud Divinus
6 hours ago
And the only track that was partly mastered with completed bass tracks from Chi.  He’s heard in a couple of band recordings belting about how bad ass it sounds.  If you don’t know the band you’ll prob never see it.  The bands still holding onto that material since technically they would have to split whatever money comes from it to chi’s estate.  The album is on ice mostly for legal purposes unfortunately in that respect.  It’s also more of an EP and wouldn’t have enough tracks for a full length given chi’s unfinished parts.  Which is why splitting royalties if they complete it would get muddy.  The album has since then been heavily cannibalized in large parts for later releases.  Some tracks were completely ripped apart and reused for parts in No Koi Yokan.  That’s partly why they haven’t released it too.  You’re welcome.  RIP CHI

Very interesting quote you have posted here. This may align with what Abe has mentioned in a recent interview (June 15th 2020):

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-drummer-explains-why-eros-album-remains-unreleased/


DEFTONES' Abe Cunningham has explained why the band has yet to release its long-shelved 2008 "Eros" album. According to the drummer, the LP — the last to feature bassist Chi Cheng before a car crash put him in a coma that lasted until his death in 2013 — was never finished.

In a new interview with Download TV, Cunningham said: "It was never completed, and that's what people don't get. Like, 'What, you're just sitting on it?' and I mean, no, we're not just sitting on it, we never finished it... There's a lot attached to it as well, you know? And I understand that people are passionate about that and they want to hear Chi's last musical contribution."

DEFTONES singer Chino Moreno told The Pulse Of Radio a while back why the band decided to keep "Eros" under wraps. "Some of it was out of respect for Chi — 'Let's just put this album, you know, in a vault for a while and, you know, hold on to it,'" he said. "It's the last thing that Chi's played on, so we hold it very dear to us. It's something that we have under our belt and when we feel the time is right we'll put it out."

Cunningham told Download TV that DEFTONES have broached the subject of issuing some of the material from the record, saying: "We've talked about putting out maybe a condensed version or an EP of four or five songs, something like that, and that kind of makes sense. But we have to get into all the legalities of it, and all that stuff, and also we have to finish it. But yeah, it would be nice for that to see the light of day, definitely."

An EP is an idea the band is considering.

[Inkblades]

So, the Eros EP would likely be Smile, Dallas, Melanie and one or two other songs. Hopefully this one with the bad ass riff would be one of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk

[Draken]

I remember being so fucking hyped by that clip, ugh. Kind of has a Finger of Death vibe to it.

[Draken]

Anyone else remember this? IDK who it really is or if it is in fact an Eros demo but it's pretty damn groovy nonetheless. Wish I knew...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0&list=FLm28cYr8IpmxgPu2JQiGUVg&index=72&t=0s

[Inkblades]

Pretty sure that's not them.

[Visionz]

So who originally leaked the  instrumental to "Dallas"???  And especially, who NAMED it? What I'm asking is if it probably wasn't the band that leaked it, did the person who leaked it decide to call it Dallas just because we know Deftones had a tentative song title called Dallas? Or is that for certain the track THEY were calling Dallas? Hope this question makes sense. 

[Visionz]

I have edited OP with new links (DeftonesLive edits of the live performances of Smile and Melanie for example), and re-edited info.

A few years back, Nico (deftones-argentina here) has provided me with an audio clip of the fan-named "Dallas". It was different from the one that leaked, with an extended intro and a weird cut in it. I don't remember where he got that from.

Also, a few months back while I was doing some research on "Eros", I found out through their last interview before Chi's accident that the record was tentatively set for release to January 2009.

I also found an interview from mid-2008 where Chino said they were planning on a small-venue-only tour to go back to "those roots" per se, and they were going to play one full record at each show, one different record at each gig too.

So, "fan named". Ok thanks....
And holy shit wld that have been magical for them to tour like that and be there for a show!? I feel like the band really really changed after Chi and Eros' days and not in a bad way but i miss the band i knew them as if u get me. They (especially Chino) are in a way better headspace now compared to then but the music was a lot different to me and always will be. It was meant to be though.

[Draken]

BBC aired Smile during that recent Deftones special. I mean that's pretty awesome. Smile is still not an official release despite.

Yeah I noticed that too... Warner Bros is like fuckit

[aj]

BBC aired Smile during that recent Deftones special. I mean that's pretty awesome. Smile is still not an official release.

Yeah that blew my mind. Not the first time Daniel P Carter has played it on Radio 1 though. He did it a while back.

[Roncore]

You are 100% correct.

WB owns the masters.  This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go.  Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.

I think you are talking shit

You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is

There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.

Yes there is. So what's your point?

[Gaz]

You are 100% correct.

WB owns the masters.  This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go.  Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.

I think you are talking shit

You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is

There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.

Yes there is. So what's your point?

Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)

[Visionz]

You are 100% correct.

WB owns the masters.  This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go.  Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.

I think you are talking shit

You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is

There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.

Yes there is. So what's your point?

Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)

What does "taking the piss" mean to Brits? Maybe i missed something, just curious to know

[sharinglungs]

It means he was joking around.

[Visionz]

It means he was joking around.

Aah ik thanks

[from_musings]

You are 100% correct.

WB owns the masters.  This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go.  Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.

I think you are talking shit

You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is

There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.

Yes there is. So what's your point?

Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)

No offense Gaz, but it really doesn't seem like you were joking,sorry   

I don't know what deftones exact deal with warner was back then, and neither does anyone else here. but I would guess they signed away the master rights, pretty standard in those days

[sharinglungs]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-on-lost-album-eros-it-would-be-interesting-to-finish-at-some-point-and-ive-never-said-we-wont-2775289

Yoooooooooo we might hear eros from start to finish!

[Ihateallofmyfriends]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-on-lost-album-eros-it-would-be-interesting-to-finish-at-some-point-and-ive-never-said-we-wont-2775289

Yoooooooooo we might hear eros from start to finish!

The comments he's made in this interview give real hope of them actually finisihing it, part of me had wished that them reuniting with Terry may reignite that particular flame. I know they've said previously they may never finish it or might only release a few tracks as an EP, but I do hope they finish it as much as it must be hard to go back to it.

[Draken]

they need to just finish it already, not like they don't have the time...

[Visionz]

Nothing new to see there. they play Chi's songs every night when touring and rehearsing. I guess its the whole "finishing" the songs that Chi wont get to play or hear that he helped create? Must be. Chino writes songs by reacting to the music. But it seems he feels he would be too uncomfortable reacting to these noises again after all this time. And does time make it easier to revisit one day bc of the healing process? Or does time as it goes on make it harder and less likely? We dont know.  Nobody does..... dont hold your breath. It will be a nice surprise if something happens then