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Eros

Started by Vesanic, Mar 23, 2010, 11:49 AM

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MaximumPezcore

The best albums are short and sweet, I say. I just kinda lose interest when it goes over the hour mark. Plenty of fat to trim on certain long albums...
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DeftonesNZ

Yeah I agree general rule is keep it short but I also think a long album when done properly can be truly epic, The Wall by Pink Floyd comes to mind as an example, the way it uses the extra duration to tell a detailed story is great, I just hate faux long albums,you know those albums that claim to have like 15 songs but only has about 9-10 songs of any substance after ignoring interludes and filler tracks.

pinata89

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While I agree with most of what is being said regarding long v. short albums, I do think some albums contain necessary filler material to create the musical environment and complete the "story" or theme the artist had in mind--not necessarily tracks that are meant to be listened to on their own, but in context with a larger picture.  A few albums that come to my mind are Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness by the Smashing Pumpkins and The Fragile by Nine Inch Nails.  There are certainly filler tracks on each, for sure, but I feel they are strategically placed in the sequence for a reason.

Braincleaner

Some albums are so strong that passing the 1 hour mark isn't a problem at all. Take Superunknown by Soundgarden. It's a remarkable album (to say the least) and it clocks in on 1 hour and 15 minutes, with 15 songs (16 if you count the european version)

With that said i think Deftones would handle a longer album with no problems, they've always been solid songwriters.

Capt Snow

Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.

SwerveCityUSA

funny thing is, each deftones album pushes 40-50 mins anyway. I would get bored with any band past that. I really get tired of all those mellon collie and the wall albums. those are ok and worthy but I just want 10 tracks of perfection, enough with a pretty package and too much ambition, just stick to the roots.
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SwerveCityUSA

Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.

why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.
I'm bringing it in with style myself you know it is with ease no sweat

Capt Snow

Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Jun 06, 2013, 02:41 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.

why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.

Chino did say in an interview somewhere that after Diamond Eyes he would like to make a couple more albums. And he also said that he would release a completely new album as a successor to KNY and afterwards possibly release Eros.

SwerveCityUSA

Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 06, 2013, 02:52 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Jun 06, 2013, 02:41 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.

why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.

Chino did say in an interview somewhere that after Diamond Eyes he would like to make a couple more albums. And he also said that he would release a completely new album as a successor to KNY and afterwards possibly release Eros.

who cares what he said. they rely off of vibes, if they planned it out they would be like every other band.
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lftpp

QuoteWhile we're on the subject of Deftones, your bassist Chi Cheng passed away in April after spending about five years in a coma. Do you have plans to release Eros, the final album he recorded with you but shelved in 2008?

I get asked about that record a lot. For a while, I was giving the same answer, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no." After Chi's passing, I went back and listened to some of the record and it was a pretty intense experience to say the least. I think it should be released, but we don't have any definite plans. There's some work to do on it. Deftones have been moving forward in a strong, positive motion, so for us to stop and reflect on something five years ago, I don't know if we're ready for that. I'm not sure that's where we want to put our energy. It is a special thing for us: it's the last thing Chi played on. It will see the light of day. I just don't know when.
http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/06/24/chino-moreno-deftones

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I think it will still be a few years before we hear it, if we ever do.

SwerveCityUSA

I've been coming to that conclusion two that it will be a little while, and that's perfectly fine. With Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan, they've hit a beautiful prowess and there's no question their truly best album is next, so forget about eros, that'll be a treat when the day comes, a very special gem, I would say anywhere between a year or three before eros, no longer than that, what would be the point? I'm just excited for the next album.
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RichardMoreno23

There were a few songs I found on a weird tentative name image. A song named "Raven" was on there too

pony_01

Quote from: RichardMoreno23 on Jul 07, 2013, 12:36 AM
There were a few songs I found on a weird tentative name image. A song named "Raven" was on there too

upload or bullshit

sing blue silver

He's refering to this...


It's a fan made concept art. I can't seem to find the site it was on or any better images anymore but Raven was one of the made up names. It was just something a guy did for fun. Nowhere near official.

This is all we have for tentative title info besides Chi mentioning "Trempest" in an interview.


pony_01

my bad i thought he had the original copy. lol its impossible

Inkblades

According to Wikipedia, there's also a song called Dallas. When they do release Eros, I really hope they keep the stripper names as song titles thing. There's something just so weird and great about it.

Inertiatic-Wrist

http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=30601

From Abe: On releasing the Eros album: Yea, there's so much talk of it. People have many enduring opinions of it. The honest truth is the record wasn't done. People assume that it's all just sitting there, ready to go. It wasn't ... it was close to being finished. And, of course, it's dear to us and it will be very dear to people who love Chi, man.
The record wasn't finished, it needs work. It's just not that simple. Also at the same time ... in that certain period, we sort of ... moved on.

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Teknoman

Already posted on Pictures, Interviews, magazines... but what the hell:

Chino talks about Eros:

QuoteIt's not on the schedule. Now that there's been some sort of closure with Chi, it makes a little more sense to put it out now than before, so it'll probably be sooner than never. Before, people figured it would never be released. At the same time, there are no plans right now to release it. Deftones are still trudging forward, and I don't think we're completely ready to reflect on that time in our career. It's a pretty heavy thing. If you listen to the record—which I did recently—it really is a snapshot in our lives, and those were some of the last moments I spent with Chi. His accident occurred right in the middle of us finishing up writing that record. It's a tough thing to reflect on. Listening to it the other day brought back a lot of intense feelings, which I don't think as a band we want to present to anybody just yet. I still think we're dealing with it internally. One day I think it will see the light of day, and probably sooner than never.

Edit: Forgot the source


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