Eros

[DeftonesNZ]

Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?

[rainnyx4]

Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?

Engine #9 -> Headup -> Elite

Also, Korea -> Bloody Cape -> Royal (to a lesser extent)

[DeftonesNZ]

Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive

[rainnyx4]

Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive

Yeah I guess I've been playing guitar about 16 years now.

Engine #9, Headup, and Elite are all played in the same area of the guitar with a really similar groove (though in different tunings).  They're incredibly similar.  One of my only gripes with this band is when they occasionally get lazy and plagiarize themselves.

Korea and Bloody Cape have that same sort of pull off thing on the strings (and like I said, Royal to a lesser extent).

My point is, these songs have way more in common with each other than the Eros clip and Beauty School do.  And they didn't evolve into each other.  They're all separate distinct songs from different points in time.

From all information we have, Eros was essentially done except for the vocals.  Why would they be putting studio clips and include a song that doesn't even make the album?

The band has also said they started over from scratch.  Apparently, everything from that era didn't represent them artistically when they went to write Diamond Eyes.  Yet, people seem to think that this one riff was OK to rehash?  Doesn't make any sense.

They're different songs.  If we ever see Eros, I can guarantee we'll hear this song in it's entirety on the album.

[DeftonesNZ]

Yeah i even said myself earlier that I doubt it but it could be possible sometimes you write a cool little riff and don't use it for years then eventually you get song for it ,They do copy themselves sometimes but it's not usually obvious unless you play the songs because with the changes in tuning people don't usually notice ,I think that's ok as long as it's not too similar alot of bands do it worse tot the point you can't tell them apart easily.

[TheyCallMeP]

April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.

[sooniletugo]

I hope they someday release the song with that intro that's often compared to Beauty School. Way better. Instantly gives me chills. It could very well be my favourite Deftones song if it was released. I'm curious for the studio version of Melanie too, and of course the rest of the Eros material, just for that missing piece of the puzzle between SNW and DE.

[dictatesofreason]

April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.

thats fucking retarded

[TheyCallMeP]

April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.

thats fucking retarded

[pinkmaggit69]

2 more hours??

[Jerry_Curls]

Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

[iceache]

Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

What?

They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.

[DeftonesNZ]

Yeah I don't see any similarities apart from the claps

[Jerry_Curls]

Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

What?

They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.

TO ME, the slow part that Stef is playing at the beginning FOD sounds like the verse in Poltergeist, just sped up. The "chorus" of FOD sounds like a slower part to the "I let you pretend..." part in Poltergeist. I just hear similar note changes in Stef's part. That is all. Just my take. Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.

[Vesanic]

Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.

Yes, it is, actually. As iceache has stated, they're not remotely similar in anyway. They're both heavy songs, I'll give you that, but they don't play at the same level of heaviness either.

[dictatesofreason]

Finger of Death is way better song

[deftoner664]

I don't think my anticipation/longing to hear this album will ever die... 

[pinkmaggit]

Finger of Death is way better song

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
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[DeftonesNZ]

FOD/Bufallo does have vocals you've obviously only heard the instrumental demo listen to the live version from anaheim 09-30-2004

Deftones - Buffalo

[Jerry_Curls]

Finger of Death is way better song

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.

Fuck you dude and fuck all the rest of you (all 3 of you haha) who are so butthurt at my IDEA/OPINION that both these songs are similar. I wasn't starting an argument...just throwing around discussion. I WAS JUST SAYING IT MIGHT BE A RE-WORKED SONG. Shit. I didn't claim that it IS or that I have proof...once again..just my IDEA that it MIGHT be. Just what I hear...holy fucking shit. If you guys don't agree, no need to fucking make me feel like a fucking dumb-ass. Just say, "nah, not really" and just move on. And since when is an argument 3 replies to ONE fucking post. I don't get you guys sometimes...