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Eros

Started by Vesanic, Mar 23, 2010, 11:49 AM

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sing blue silver

Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.

wheresmysnare

Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 03:04 PM
Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.
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I get the impression that the band have now collectively moved on from Eros, I remember being at a London gig shortly before deftones released diamond eyes and chino was telling the crowd how hyped he was at the thought of being able to start playing tracks off diamond eyes live. No mention at all to Eros, almost like they were happy to wash their hands with it, comes across to me thet they don't necessarily think much of it

from_musings

In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.

they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(

Hidalgo

my guess is if we ever hear eros it will be a leak, maybe on purpose by them. that way fans can hear it yet they can still say it's not an official album if they're not 100% happy with it, and continue not playing the songs live. if Chi gets to where he can play again they might actually release it for real. who knows. a leak seems like the only way we'll hear it anytime in the next few years

Hidalgo

it is pretty amazing it hasn't leaked yet

from_musings

I assumed that because it hasn't leaked yet, the people who worked on it are pretty careful with it, very high sequrity and so on.that so far, it has been in the right hands, small number of people working on it who have access to it.and now almost locked in a vault. One can think: "If it's been 2.5 years and nothing has happened this far, it's at a safe place, and the years can continue to go by'without anything happening..... but when abe sits and show a lot of astonishment that eros hasn't leaked yet, one has to reconsider

sing blue silver

Quote from: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 10:07 PM
In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.

they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(

pretty much this although it should leak eventually. the way things have been going though, it looks like it's been under lock and key and will be a while before any of us get to hear it, leaked or otherwise.

davetonez

Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

sing blue silver

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.

davetonez

Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 01:39 AM
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.

Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best

sing blue silver

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:44 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 01:39 AM
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.

Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best

no studio versions sadly but i'm fairly sure you can find them all live on youtube.

here's tired of sex.
Deftones - Tired of Sex / Engine No. 9(live) 9/11/97

defsteve

#271
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(

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Frequency_Chemist

I'm not going to give up on Eros. If Chi gets better and to the point he could play again I think we'd see it then. If he doesn't...I think the label will release it after the band is done with. You know, just to make a few more bucks off the band. Worst case scenario they'll release it the day after I die. If that's the case I wouldn't blame you if you wished death on me.

from_musings

#273
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.

rock_n_frost

Deftones - Eros  leaked.....

imagine it..
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vinsanity

Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jan 11, 2011, 12:30 PM
Deftones - Eros  leaked.....

imagine it..

I know that i would prefer to see full version, finished, but can't say i wouldn't be happy if the leak happens
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davetonez

Quote from: from_musings on Jan 11, 2011, 11:41 AM
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.


Eh, sometimes it's hard getting an idea across online. I didn't want it to come across as that's why the album hasn't been released yet... That'd be stupid.

DEFinatelydeftones,fsho

I don't think it's realistic that Weezer has anything to do with this. It wouldn't get past the rest of the band, especially Stephen. It is solely because of Chi's situation. New topic please. 10,000,000 pleases actually..... ;D
Pushing you back but still you ain't goooooooooone!!!!!!

DEFinatelydeftones,fsho

Quote from: defsteve on Jan 11, 2011, 03:10 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(


Good point. I like this idea and would think they have or will toss this around. Better than a leak, I would rather pay $10 to Chi's cause than get a leaked version that probably sounds like shiiiiit.
Pushing you back but still you ain't goooooooooone!!!!!!

pinkmaggit

I know it's very unlikely at this point but I trawl the net almost every day hoping to find some info as to when Eros will be released.
I know they're probably waiting for Chi to make a recovery first but I think now or even the next year or so would be a great time to release it.
It would bring more attention to Chi's plight and it would be great if the proceeds could go towards Chi's medical bills - I'm sure he sorely needs the money at this point in time.
I'm sure there'd be a lot less illegal downloading with this album and a lot more sales because people would be wanting to give something towards Chi's recovery.What a great thing it would be - to be able to say thank you to Chi for all the wonderful music he has given us, music that has changed a lot of our lives.It's not always easy for people like me, who live outside the states and don't have a credit card to give something towards Chi but if Eros was available as a CD I'd go out and buy it straight away ........ and one copy just wouldn't be enough!
Of course the only thing I don't like about the Tones is the length of time it takes them to put out a new album. Waiting 3 years is always so painful!
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.