Discussion about fallout from the leak.

[iceache]

I don't hear any of the problems that keep getting mentioned.

Although it would be nice to get the final copy, so it could be just a little louder (not a brick of wall loud) on the drums and bass

I'd say this is as good as it gets.

[Dienekes]

I don't hear any of the problems that keep getting mentioned.

Although it would be nice to get the final copy, so it could be just a little louder (not a brick of wall loud) on the drums and bass

I'd say this is as good as it gets.

I think the cd will have much better sound. Perhaps even a mix that is more even. Or did you mean this is as good as it gets til then, cause I agree with that. Regardless this is not bad at all, but I for one would be pretty unhappy if I bought a cd and it sounded like this.

I don't understand how a lot of you guys can't hear how "flat" this is. Especially in the car. Listen to the bass in change or digital bath then listen to the bass on prince. I hear a huge difference in the car. Hell, even on an iPod.

Might be interesting to compare de coming out this week to the leaked one...

[tarkil]

I just can't understand how you guys think a car sound system is an adequate place to judge the quality of a piece of music......

Anyway, I agree with whoever that said that it's close to impossible to have 2 different leaks... Come on, one is already highly improbably that early, so 2.....
I'm pretty sure the hypothesis of a "stream rip" is the correct one. I can hear the "gmail chat" sounds too on YSTB, so it seems pretty likely.

And it should be obvious to see it's a transcode with Adobe Audition, so if anyone has it and cares to post screenshots...


Also, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the fully mastered version either, you can still pick up some differences between the way songs "sound" (for lack of a better word, sorry), even though it's pretty cohesive already...

[Jacob]

I just can't understand how you guys think a car sound system is an adequate place to judge the quality of a piece of music...

this ^
I have never ever listened to music in a car thinking it sounds good. it can sound completely decent, but not good.

[Starz]

That's what I've been saying ^ Get some good headphones on at least!

[Vesanic]

I don't know if I should feel ashamed because I listened to the leak. Anyway, I don't, and I will buy a copy anyway, so I really don't give the half of a fuck.

[m1nusblindfoLd]

I just can't understand how you guys think a car sound system is an adequate place to judge the quality of a piece of music...

this ^
I have never ever listened to music in a car thinking it sounds good. it can sound completely decent, but not good.

I mean a car with a good sound system, not stock radio/speakers. This shit sounds ridiculous with 2 subs and aftermarket speakers...perfect, clear bass and every other aspect sounds great as well. Have you guys listened to music with a good car stereo system? Best place to listen to music for the fun of listening, not examining.

You're being the pixel peepers of the music world. Instead of blowing up digital photos online to check every pixel for noise/shake, you guys seem to be listening to music in crystal clear DJ headphones just to listen for any little imperfection in sound.
Stop checking so much lol.

To the common ear, this sounds perfect- I don't understand.

[tarkil]

you HAVE to listen to music in crystal clear DJ headphones to listen for any little imperfection in sound.
Stop checking so much lol.

Actually, I love checking music in crystal clear environment and with good headphones, cause you'll hear not the "imperfections" but all the details of the music that were added, and that you cannot make out otherwise.
You should try once listening to music with good (like REAL good) headphones, I swear you'll change your mind immediately...

[sing blue silver]

yeah for me excellent quality headphones are a must to really experience an album. i'm a bit of a quality snob usually anyway.

[m1nusblindfoLd]

you HAVE to listen to music in crystal clear DJ headphones to listen for any little imperfection in sound.
Stop checking so much lol.

Actually, I love checking music in crystal clear environment and with good headphones, cause you'll hear not the "imperfections" but all the details of the music that were added, and that you cannot make out otherwise.
You should try once listening to music with good (like REAL good) headphones, I swear you'll change your mind immediately...

I do have expensive, good huge headphones that keep all outside sound out, but I prefer the car system much more for rocking out The bass is impressive to me every time, and Rockfords are very clear bass-wise, good for rock music like this.

Hearing the subs' bass in any good song, especially Royal for example, gives me shivers every time.

[sing blue silver]

in the car i find i get too much interference with traffic and wind and such since i live in the city but i do have a nice little soundsystem at home that i rocked this shit out on last night and the bass was huge. headphones in a dark room with a joint is still my preferred method of experiencing music though. then again i have my headphones on almost constantly while i write, play video games and even when i'm hanging out with friends. they're used to it so it doesn't come off so rude. they all know music is my number one love in life and even my girlfriend has accepted it.

[m1nusblindfoLd]

Yeah see, I mean a crazy sound system that, with the windows down, all you hear and feel is the music and bass. You are completely engulfed in the sound and vibration. This shit is like hammered into you (in a good way). No exhaust/wind/road noise even comes to your ears at this point

It's godly.

[FeetLikeFins]

I have heard a few rumors that what we are hearing is not the final mix or an incomplete mix. Personally I don't buy this cause rs and de sound the same as the regular versions.

A bigger question is who leaked it and how does it affect the band? I know 99% of the people on here are going to buy a copy and many will buy two. What about the average Joe though? Anybody think this could really hurt sales or be detrimental to the band?

Another rumor I have read conjectures that the band themselves leaked it because the file says leaked dub. I find this one ridiculous but I am just putting it out there. My hope is that the leak just generates good word of mouth and this thing sells like hotcakes but who knows...

KILL YOURSELF

[Sushi-X]

Wow that's harsh. He's just commenting on rumor no need to say shit like that

[pixElsblUr]

is this where it goes south?

this shit sounds pretty fucking good in my car windows up after s session , but I also do prefer using the headphones to enjoy the detail of sound.

[Jacob]

I have heard a few rumors that what we are hearing is not the final mix or an incomplete mix. Personally I don't buy this cause rs and de sound the same as the regular versions.

A bigger question is who leaked it and how does it affect the band? I know 99% of the people on here are going to buy a copy and many will buy two. What about the average Joe though? Anybody think this could really hurt sales or be detrimental to the band?

Another rumor I have read conjectures that the band themselves leaked it because the file says leaked dub. I find this one ridiculous but I am just putting it out there. My hope is that the leak just generates good word of mouth and this thing sells like hotcakes but who knows...

KILL YOURSELF

please keep it more civil and mature than that.

[FeetLikeFins]

I have heard a few rumors that what we are hearing is not the final mix or an incomplete mix. Personally I don't buy this cause rs and de sound the same as the regular versions.

A bigger question is who leaked it and how does it affect the band? I know 99% of the people on here are going to buy a copy and many will buy two. What about the average Joe though? Anybody think this could really hurt sales or be detrimental to the band?

Another rumor I have read conjectures that the band themselves leaked it because the file says leaked dub. I find this one ridiculous but I am just putting it out there. My hope is that the leak just generates good word of mouth and this thing sells like hotcakes but who knows...

KILL YOURSELF

please keep it more civil and mature than that.

Really? 

If someone starts an 'I've heard a few rumors' thread, they should kill themselves. 

And you (a MODERATOR) should give a fuck.  Sorry.

[Absynth Z]

in EVIL, Gmail Chat beep occurs at 1:10 into the song. I also heard them in Butcher. I use Gmail Chat, so everytime it happened I looked at my gmail haha. But no one was messaging me! Probably because Im so unpopular... and have bad grammer...

This is on the version i have anyway...

[m1nusblindfoLd]

in EVIL, Gmail Chat beep occurs at 1:10 into the song. I also heard them in Butcher. I use Gmail Chat, so everytime it happened I looked at my gmail haha. But no one was messaging me! Probably because Im so unpopular... and have bad grammer...

This is on the version i have anyway...

Just checked mine with the volume blasted/different mediums and no sound at all.

[Jacob]

I have heard a few rumors that what we are hearing is not the final mix or an incomplete mix. Personally I don't buy this cause rs and de sound the same as the regular versions.

A bigger question is who leaked it and how does it affect the band? I know 99% of the people on here are going to buy a copy and many will buy two. What about the average Joe though? Anybody think this could really hurt sales or be detrimental to the band?

Another rumor I have read conjectures that the band themselves leaked it because the file says leaked dub. I find this one ridiculous but I am just putting it out there. My hope is that the leak just generates good word of mouth and this thing sells like hotcakes but who knows...

KILL YOURSELF

please keep it more civil and mature than that.

Really? 

If someone starts an 'I've heard a few rumors' thread, they should kill themselves. 

And you (a MODERATOR) should give a fuck.  Sorry.

I give a fuck about wether people act decent or not here. there's nothing wrong with starting a thread if you want to share a rumor you heard - given the rumor isn't flat out ridiculous. there's reason to suspect the leak not being the final version and it might prove to be useful information worth discussing. either way, it's not your place to decide. disagree with him all you want, but do it in a nicer tone.