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Deftones opening for Slipknot in America

Started by defskull, Sep 03, 2009, 09:29 PM

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deftonesfan192

Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 03, 2009, 09:40 PM
Let's admit something.


From all the " big " bands, Deftones are probably the less known.

True there like the biggest underground act/the least known mainstream act although I reckon there doing these dates with fuking clitsnot because of the record company thats my guess anyways...

cEvin Key

Quote from: deftonesfan192 on Sep 05, 2009, 11:30 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 03, 2009, 09:40 PM
Let's admit something.


From all the " big " bands, Deftones are probably the less known.

True there like the biggest underground act/the least known mainstream act although I reckon there doing these dates with fuking clitsnot because of the record company thats my guess anyways...
lol...in my way of seeing things...maybe slipknot just invited the deftones to join them and I dont see one reason for the guys not to acept it...they can sit their asses until the album gets released or they can do some show's...so why not do it ?

ps: at least it's not linkin park

Urantia23

Quote from: cEvin Key on Sep 06, 2009, 12:48 AM
Quote from: deftonesfan192 on Sep 05, 2009, 11:30 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 03, 2009, 09:40 PM
Let's admit something.


From all the " big " bands, Deftones are probably the less known.

True there like the biggest underground act/the least known mainstream act although I reckon there doing these dates with fuking clitsnot because of the record company thats my guess anyways...
lol...in my way of seeing things...maybe slipknot just invited the deftones to join them and I dont see one reason for the guys not to acept it...they can sit their asses until the album gets released or they can do some show's...so why not do it ?

ps: at least it's not linkin park

or limp bizkit

Hidalgo

#43
they opened for linkin park and LB in 03, Chino was pissed about it too. he just knows they should be bigger than those bands, and they were MAJOR influences on them. frustration. kinda how dave mustaine could never enjoy megadeth's success, cause metallica did much better

TheWatcher


kameron632

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 06, 2009, 02:46 AM
they opened for linkin park and LB in 03, Chino was pissed about it too. he just knows they should be bigger than those bands, and they were MAJOR influences on them. frustration. kinda how dave mustaine could never enjoy megadeth's success, cause metallica did much better

fuck linkin park. they suck major bull balls

E-Money

Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP

Deftones-88-05-Deftones

Quote from: stapezee on Sep 06, 2009, 06:25 AM
Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP

" You are just Disconnected, Apathetic It must be so pathetic to be this frantic You are just Like methadone for an addict  "   Mark Hunter

" Im gonna see you bleeding Face down in the dirt Im gonna give you back what Youve taken with hurt You coward Im going to spit right in your face" Rob Flynn

Ponte506

For years I've been a lurker here at Sharing Lungs, but I'd figure I'd say something on a topic that kinda caught my interest.

I've been a Deftones fan since 2000.  Heard My Own Summer back in '99, put that on a burned CD, but didnt think much of them.  White Pony came out, and I was hooked.  Till this day (despite the album delays), they are my number 1 favorite band, and will always be until the day I day.  Now having said that...

Last year I started getting into Slipknot...big time.  I first heard them back in the late nineties with "Wait and Bleed" and while the song was somewhat cool, the whole mask and 9 members thing just seemed like a big sham.  The overly "goth" aspect as well as the lacking melodies turned me off from the band and that was that. 

Being extremely picky with music, there were only a select bands I could listen to, I'd say 5 at the most.  But when I went to expand my musical taste last year, I realized that I'd been missing a shit ton of awesome music that was of course, Slipknot. 

To me, Corey Taylors vocals are awesome...visceral, carnal, and the lyrics grab you.  But that's now what makes me crazy about them...its the pure guitar work and drums.  As much as I love Slipknot, I don't think ANYONE here can deny that Mick Thomson and Jim Root's guitar work are leaps and bounds greater than Stephen Carpenters.  It hurts to say, but they are much more technical and diverse than Carpenter, and it really shows on their latest album "All Hope is Gone".  Now before I get bombarded with "NO, THEY JUST CHUG", you need to listen to more than just "wait and bleed".  Give songs like "Sulfur", "Psycosocial", "Opium of the People" a listen.  I honestly consider them to be the two best guitarists in metal, and for Joey, can anyone honestly match his drumming? 

What I can't understand is how people say "slipknot sucks".  While some may think their masks are a big gimmick (nowadays, their awesome, and extremely well crafted), or some say their nu-metal (because they're on MTV every now and again?), I completely disagree.  When you have a vocalist that can not only pump out quality screams, but can churn out awesome melody, tack that onto mind-blowing riffs and solos, backed by some of the best drum work in the metal industry, you have amazing records.

Wow, I feel like some guy writing a review on Amazon...anyway.  Deftones rule...do I like them better than Slipknot, fuck yea I do.  Are they more technically proficient and as skilled....errrrm, I'm gonna go with no.  But to say that their "bad" because they're different, or because they don't have self-interpretive lyrics is just not right.  I feel like Slipknot is a band that's automatically agreed to be hated on because they're "too mainstream" or "not 'deep' enough".  You can't put these guys on the same level as horrid bands like Nickelback or Saving Abel. 

Just my .02. 

godin

Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Sep 05, 2009, 05:57 PM
this is embarrassing.not only because slipknot sucks,but especially since chino called slipknot "mickey mouse club". bashing them as a band and now they open for them? my god.

chino should let stephen write all deftones songs and focus on the metal side of their music and they could draw a metal crowd themselves.with their team sleep approach with cherry waves, xerces etc and poppy style like hole in the earth and mein they try to attract pop rock audiences.problem is,their softer songs isnt that good so nooone cares.
focus on what yr good at,practice and develop your skillz

dude. first of all thats a matter of opinion that heavy deftones songs are better. if anything I'd say your wrong as no one in the deftones can really play metal besides steph and he never plays anything complex or hard enough to be called metal. Chino cant scream like he used to and hes no bruce dickinson when he sings melodies. more of a robert smith or morrissey . plus if Deftones only wrote heavy songs theyd be the worst live band ever. Chino cant scream as well live anymore and if all he did was scream like he does in heavy songs then hed probly end up yelling or eagle screaming more often than actual screams live.
Slipknot should call deftones mickey mouse if were talking heaviness.
plus dude. most metalheads I know really dont like deftones why you ask? Chino. and a lack of solos. why do I love deftones? more or less the same reasons.


so I would say focus on what your good at, deftones, and play whatever music you feel.
Dingus.

E-Money

Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Sep 06, 2009, 07:00 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Sep 06, 2009, 06:25 AM
Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP



notice the point in my post where i said i think the deftones are 100 times better. u fucking dumb ass

Timmy666

Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Sep 06, 2009, 07:00 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Sep 06, 2009, 06:25 AM
Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

defTHE1s

Quote from: slyartwork on Sep 04, 2009, 04:25 AM
I don't care!
same here.

Quote from: nineteenpeoplesnames on Sep 05, 2009, 06:33 PM
Deftones aint a metal band anyway. They are Deftones.

I get tired of alot of people trying to put them into some kind of Genre. They are one of those bands that rise above all of that like Radiohead or Muse.
True.

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 05, 2009, 08:18 PM
hanging out with 'the maggots' will be brutal
lol.... that'd be cool....
I like Slipknot stuff..

yeah, with that said, I don't care. I would enjoy a show of Deftones+Slipknot.

Yes yes, Deftones, yes yes, heavy metal, yes yes, nü metal, yes yes, fucking queer, yes yes...

Deft11_17ones

#53
LP and Deftones do not belong in the same category or sentence. Deftones way up in style and originality.

jesusinabowlofdirt

Quote from: buddyboy101 on Sep 05, 2009, 10:18 PM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Sep 05, 2009, 05:57 PM
this is embarrassing.not only because slipknot sucks,but especially since chino called slipknot "mickey mouse club". bashing them as a band and now they open for them? my god.

chino should let stephen write all deftones songs and focus on the metal side of their music and they could draw a metal crowd themselves.with their team sleep approach with cherry waves, xerces etc and poppy style like hole in the earth and mein they try to attract pop rock audiences.problem is,their softer songs isnt that good so nooone cares.
focus on what yr good at,practice and develop your skillz insted

I disagree. The songwriting in the Deftones is a collective effort.  It's never been a one-man show.  And what truly hurts your argument is White Pony, the album that brought the Deftones to the masses, and also the album that Chino started playing guitar and writing songs in a significant way.  I'm not saying Chino should write all the songs, and I agree Xerces and Cherry Waves are weak sauce.  But handing the reigns over to one band member won't fix things.  Many bands, and creative folk at large, experience a lull in their creativity as their careers progress.  Sometimes it takes a huge event or an overdue break to recharge the juices.  I think we're at that pivotal moment where the deftones are a band born anew.  I think you'll agree.

its not like stephen hit a chord on the guitarr and chino says "the next chord should be hits one" and then abe says "oh! oh! the next chord should be this one!"

they bring their own songs to the table and then work on them as a group.im just saying they should work on the stephen songs. chinos songs on wp was way better than on snw but it kinda feels that he's not the guy who can write 30 totally different songs,when he tries again it will sound about they same so he has to steo out of his box but then it gets bad. I think you'll agree

Fireal1222

boy it sure is a good thing i dont take deftones seriously anymore. or this would really stick in my craw.. whatever the hell that means

I'm Not Here.
This Isn't Happening.

Deftones-88-05-Deftones

Quote from: stapezee on Sep 07, 2009, 02:14 AM
Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Sep 06, 2009, 07:00 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Sep 06, 2009, 06:25 AM
Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP



notice the point in my post where i said i think the deftones are 100 times better. u fucking dumb ass

If you want to talk of your beloved Linkin Park go to their site dude nobody gives a fuck if LP has followers assholes like you of probably 12.
And one more time



Faggot
" You are just Disconnected, Apathetic It must be so pathetic to be this frantic You are just Like methadone for an addict  "   Mark Hunter

" Im gonna see you bleeding Face down in the dirt Im gonna give you back what Youve taken with hurt You coward Im going to spit right in your face" Rob Flynn

E-Money

Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Sep 10, 2009, 03:56 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Sep 07, 2009, 02:14 AM
Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Sep 06, 2009, 07:00 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Sep 06, 2009, 06:25 AM
Linkin Park has a one of the largest followings for a rock group these days.......they have to be doing something right..... mike shinoda is very talented, and for those of u that say he's not thats fucking dumb.  Chester's whatever, but MIke is a smart guy.  I think the deftones are 100 times better and deserve so much more but I cant hate on LP



notice the point in my post where i said i think the deftones are 100 times better. u fucking dumb ass

If you want to talk of your beloved Linkin Park go to their site dude nobody gives a fuck if LP has followers assholes like you of probably 12.
And one more time



Faggot

Hey Deftones-88-05-Deftones I'm a member of this forum and so r u.  So If i want to talk about the band, I will and ur just gonna have to fucking put up with it.  It Sucks.  I know.  But unfortunately u do not make the rules.  So once again Fuck U :)

Deftones86

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